Same here! Be carefull to remove old assigns from PGS_4.x!

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So what issues have you encountered with older PageStream v4.x assigns still active?

As I still have PageStream v4.1.5.6 Pro still active on my MorphOS A1145 system, and it does not seem to conflict with PageStream v5.1.2 Pro - AFAIK?

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Well, Enhanced Display surely needs to change inner workings of gfx with regard to things like sem locking. So when activated, is really everything legal, that always used to be legal (but maybe uncommon) without such feature available or activated?

For example if an app would do (for whatever reason):

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then this would cause deadlock problems if (no idea, maybe it doesn't) with "Enhanced Display" activated the RectFill() functions internally would also need to lock the LayerInfo (maybe to update the region which requires re-compositing of screen).





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@Newsense:
Had a lot of scripts (partly origin written) in PGS4. I have a direct assign to this script-dir. PGS5 is searching for scritps in local dir and assigned dir. When I configured PGS5 for my needs, I did'nt realise, that I was choosing party scripts from PGS4 - and I run into some troubles...... (but astonishingly most of them works...).

Edit: On your hint now, I've checked installer-routine on PGS4: Normaly it does no direct assign to scripts (only Pagestream: and Softlogic: ). Possibly it is a relic of an older installation on my machine. As I can see now, PGS4 also works without this assign (never too old to learn something new ).

I have a little question, will be possible that program has a modern GUI instead of Amiga68k from the 80-90 years?

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How do you define modern? Ribbon menu crap?

@polluks

Hey, M$ loves their ribbon crap! I’m not saying that I like it or anything like that.

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With Mason Icons?

I already mentioned this 'Toolbar and Toolbox icon' issue to Frank Mariak, and Deron Kazmaier - I seem to remember that being before v5.1.2 was released. I believe Christoph Poelzl has put some effort into some refurbishment of the icons but I have not seen the 'fruits' of his efforts so far.

Deron stated that he is not a graphic designer, and there are methods to re-work the icons for the interface if someone wants to get involved with skills that can benefit us all.

If anyone does want to do some work on the icons, then just get in contact here, and I will pass your details along, that's if I am not in any case able to pass you the actual icons that can be re-worked to be improved upon straight away.

Some changes are in the pipeline for a re-worked release, for some of the known issues that have been reported, but these are under close wraps at the moment, and even I do not know what they are.

I sent some nice Toolbar icons to Deron back in the days when he was working on Aladdin4D for me. I can do the same for PageStream 5.1 MorphOS and Windows version if he wants. As long as he gives DiscreetFX credit for getting them created there won’t be any charge. Graphics and video is our speciality at DiscreetFX.

[ Edited by discreetfx 09.12.2022 - 16:41 ]

@ discreetfx - Bill, that's a really nice offer . . . you're at it again, and it isn't even Christmas yet !!

If you prefer, as you have previously offered this service to Deron you probably have direct contact details for him, or you can use the well known site forums via Forums @ PageStream.net or directly via the program website's contact email: support@pagestream.org.

Or if you would prefer me to contact him then I will, but the offer might be better coming directly from you, IMHO.

However, if you just want the Toolbar and Toolbox icons to be getting on with re-designing, then I can pass you the set either unarchived or archived to see what is involved. There are quite a few of them, and they are numbered rather than named, if I remember correctly, so you have to ensure you modify the one that you intend to be shown in your latest version so it matches/represents the icon intended.

I feel sure, that if agreement was reached with Deron then he would give you credit in the program's About details, and probably the documentation &/or website credits for such an improvement. I know I would

@NewSense

Please contact him and let him know. If I can do something to help PageStream I’m glad to do it. PageStream is a great app and personally I’ve used it since 1989. I have InDesign and other DTP programs but PS is more intuitive for me. I’m so happy that a working version finally came out for MorphOS. I had almost given up hope.

@ discreetfx - Hi Bill, OK I've sent Deron a PageSstream forum email and also opened a thread in the PageStream forum as follows:OFFER of NEW COLOUR PageStream Icons - Toolbar & Toolbox - FREE design offer from Bill Panagouleas (DiscreetFX), so hopefully he will either reply in the forum, send me a message back, or reply here - or maybe all three.

I’ve requested Deron send me a quote for several MorphOS PageStream Pro 5.1 licenses so I can start giving them away.

@ discreetfx - Hey Bill, I had spotted that new thread on the PageStream Forum - The discreet(fx) Give-away. Hope you hear back soon from Deron.

I've not heard back as yet about the icon regeneration you offered to do. Of course I will let you know as soon as I hear anything back from Deron, both privately and here in the forum.

@NewSense:

During MicroAlchimie gathering in France last month, i see new colored icon bar for PageStream

@ Papiosaur - is that the icon set for the Toolbar that rms - Christoph Poelzl has reputedly been working on, and gave the demonstration of @ MicroAlchimie?

I haven't seen it as yet, though I would like Christoph to display it so we PageStream users can see the result of his efforts, and so Bill (discreetfx) can know if he needs to spend time either improving or totally re-working the Toolbar and Toolbox as he has so kindly offered to do already.

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Yes, that's it

Maybe you and discretfx could contact rms about his work on PageStream and you could help to do others skins ?

Perso, i have contacted Deron about french translation of PageStream but no answer for the moment...

@ Papiosaur Yannick - I contacted rms - Christoph Poelzl via his email a week or so ago, and I have still not heard back from him about the issue I mentioned to him, which is an issue with PageStream that he may have also come across, which I also mentioned to Deron and Frank Mariak at the same time, but I believe the issue is still being investigated - which is one of those issues I mentioned in Comment #25 of this thread.

So, if he was to reply to me soon then I would also ask him about the Toolbar and Toolbox icon set he has obviously got somewhere with.

@ Yannick - would you say the icon set of PageStream that you saw at MicroAlchimie for the Toolbar and Toolbox looked a lot more professional than the current icon set (more like Adobe InDesign's icons) for the purposes of upgrading PageStream v5.1.2, as the original v5.1.2 icon set is only slightly better than B&W (monochrome) and only just slightly improved from v4?

What i saw was very professional quality and colored

Maybe they need to improve MorphOS mouse pointer before release a new version of PageStream...

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OK, that's good to hear, but it would be even better to be able to get to see the Toolbar and Toolbox, sooner rather than later. That's because there would not be any point Bill (discreetfx) going ahead and re-designing them if it's unnecessary.
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Well there are currently 13 pointers to choose from in Preferences> Mouse> Pointers and I am happy with the one I have that works on Ambient and is the same for use in all my programs within MorphOS, and of course gets utilised in PageStream. So, I cannot imagine there is not one you could choose that would work OK for you, and that looks professionally designed.

Or am I missing some other valid point(er) you are trying to make?

Hi all PageStream 5 supporters.

Nice to see your interests here for this new absolutely great version of PageStream 5 which works really great under MorphOS

Of course for such a complex application, which imo, is at least as good as concurrent ones on the mac, it takes more time to get bugs corrected and new features implemented. Please be aware that for PageStream 5 there are not hundreds of developers working on it, but only a few which are putting really a lot of hours of work and effort into it to make it a great professional application for MorphOS.

Here are some screen grabs of the interface with the new icon set which is in gray nuances, as for all professional applications, so they do not interfere with the main point using the application: layout of documents!

But for those, which are in the need of a colored icon set, this will also be available during 2023. As the icons are designed as vector graphics (they are done with PageStream 5 btw ) they can quite easily be colored as you can see on one of the screen grabs.

For now the icons are not released yet, because most of them need to be redrawn in the correct size and can't be simply scaled to that, for quality reasons. A good example is the extended pointer set (please see screen grab) where each image needed to be drawn in the correct resolution/size.

That's a small update for now but I like to suggest to you to support the developers huge effort so that they don't loose courage to continue this project!

Best regards
Christoph

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@ rms - Christoph, thanks for the links to the screen grabs that relate to what Papiosaur was referring to, and what I privately asked you about in my most recent email - a short time earlier 15-Dec-2022, the same morning you posted these images, that of your coloured icon set you have been working extensively on.

I can see that a lot of time and effort has gone into what you have done, and they will be a great addition and improvement to PageStream, as and when they get implemented and incorporated into the PageStream archive/program.

UPDATE - In the PageStream Forum - the GREEN LIGHT - for any additional icon set, with regard directly to the FREE replacement coloured icon set offer by discreetfx

This is not to detract from all the effort that Christoph Poelzl (rms) has already put in, but maybe 2 icon sets are better than 1!

Just thought I'd keep you all up-to-date with what Deron Kazmaier stated on the PageStream forum only a day or so ago - if none of you had noticed it yourselves ...

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So, I have sent discreetfx an email to let him know, as I said I would, and I am waiting to hear back from him on his decision from hearing this encouraging reply from Deron Kazmaier.

Also, I thought it also might be a bonus and benefit, that I hadn't thought of before, for us to have the option to use different Toolbar & Toolbox sets of icons, as with our choice of pointers on Ambient, just by swapping over the relevant .rsc file in the main PageStream directory, and keeping a folder with spare Toolbar-Toolbox icons .rsc files in there, with thumbnails, just in case any user fancied a change of appearance of PageStream's tools.

This is all conjecture at this point, but it would be a minimal change to PageStream, because as far as I am aware it would just requires the replacement, swapping over, of the .rsc file for the icon set to implement it by a user, so no additional programming would be required, just checking that it works correctly by Deron and others developing PageStream currently.

I wonder if anyone else has any other ideas or thoughts on this topic, as I would appreciate any constructive reply here from any other user(s) that we can all benefit from.