Where is the Putty port when you need one

seriously putty is a must have......

yes! we need it!



hey! coders !!!! please !!!!

Try DCTelnet.

Putty is sucky IMHO. If you need a good telnet-client
for win32, get secureCRT.

Quote:

I have dl the source to give a look at. No doc, no comment and all sources mixed randomly. It is not easy to port.

sixK maybe? He's used with un*x ports.

We need a good telnet/ssh and others protocols client

thanks muckboy.

DCTelnet 1.5 works fine here!

There are 'normal' telnet and
ssh commands available for MOS.
They offer the same possibilities as the Linux
version do.
Telnet is included in the MOS SDK.
Lousie has ported the ssh client.
http://pegasos.innoidea.hu/


There is just two *annoying* things:

a) The MOS shell has different colors
than a 'normal' Terminal.
But luckily those colors can be changed.
To change them you need to issue some echo commands. If you put those commands in your s:shell-startup then the colors are set for every shell you open.
example:
echo "*E[1;255;0;255V" set color 1 to purple.


b) For me a big problem is that the MOS shell
send different escape codes then other (linux)
boxes expect.
This means the arrow keys will not work when you
use telnet or ssh.
This could theoritycal be fixed by setting the terminal to the proper value. I tried this but I was unsuccessfull.
This problem is really dissappointing me.

I asked a few times for help on the beta2 mailing list, but no one could or wanted to help.


@BBRV
It would be great if Genesi would support us here . If the ssh would work completely then MOS would be so much more usefull.



Cheers
Gunnar

Really, thank you very much Gunnar.

Have you tried to edit the keymap and associate the needed characters to the arrow keys?. If this works you only need to load the specialized keymap when you use ssh...

Maybe this approach does not work, but if you want to give it a try, use KME from Aminet: it works! I used this keymap editor to set the AmigaOS3.1 italian keymap in order to be able to generate special characters absent on the MorphOS pc105_i keymap.

Of course KME does not recognize alien keys that do not appear on a standard Amiga keyboard, but this is irrelevant in the present context.

>Have you tried to edit the keymap and associate the needed characters to the arrow keys?

No, I didn't.
I think the arrow keys send the right "amiga" sequences so I'm not what I might break if I change them. But your idea is worth to try out.
Thanks ! If it works then I will update you.


I thought that the best way to fix this is to
create a working MOS-Amiga terminfo on
the Linux site. Unfortunatly I have no real UNIX
background - I tried to create a working termcap
but unfortunately I always failed.


If a UNiX Guru is reading this -
# Please be so kind and help me/us:
# We need a working termcap for Linux which is
# aware of the strange characters that the
# MOS-Shell is sending for the arrow keys.
#
# Mr Guru, you could do me a real favour by
# helping to create a working termcap.
# I would be glad to pay you in Coke,Beer and
# Pizza if you come anytime close to southern Germany.


Thanks
Gunnar

@Gunnar

Note that the keymap trick (if it works) can be done in a system-compliant way. In fact there is an utility I have used years ago (it should be find on Aminet, I think) that can set the keymap locally, only in the CLI window where you run the command. So you can use the standard keymap in all your applications, except in the Telnet window (or the like), where you should initialize the special keymap...

Let me know if the keymap trick works. If it does, I will search my backups for the command that I have mentioned above.

Bye,
Fulvio

Thanks for hint!

This really works! :)

How I did it:

1. I've prepared a special keyboard map with Un*x escape sequences assigned to keys like arrows or function keys.

2. I got a special font with additional VT100 characters.

3. I set the TERM variable to "ansi" (case IS IMPORTANT).

4. For changing font and keyboard layout I use standard commands
available on Workbench3.x disks: SetKeyboard and SetFont

5. SSH from OpenSSH for AmigaOS archive seens to be fully useable now.

6. I created a small AmigaDOS script that changes font and keyboard
and then runs ssh.

Could you upload needed files somewhere? I think, that there are lots of peoples interested in it.

It's here.

Well, Marek Szyprowski has finally proved that my hint concerning the generation of an alternate keymap was right. He has also written an useful list of simple rules that explain how the problem should be managed (see above), and provided the needed files (March, the archive is corrupted, please replace it!).

Also note that a keymap editor that works fine in MorphOS environment is KME, that can be found on Aminet in the util/misc/kme.lha archive.

Then I suggest to Targhan that the rules and the archive should be included in the FAQ section (thanks in advance, Dave, for your constant and kind attention). In fact, there were several rants and help requests in the beta2 mailing list, in the last few months, concerning the problem of the arrow keys not working with SSH. So the subject seems to be of general interest.

Ack! I'm sorry I've missed some from the thread here.

I'll try to get up a link to KME sometime this weekend.

Could someone please explain the SSH, rules, and the arrow thing again? We'll need to get that into the FAQ

@March:
Your Archive is corrupt :(
I tried downloading in Win2k and MorphOS, on both systems I get CRC errors when unpacking.
Could you please upload it again?

Have you tried to use one of the UNIX-shells found on Aminet ?
AFAIK these should send the right escapes.

Or if you got the SDK installed, just type sh.

I tried them. They don't tranlate keycodes.

Done.

I had to pack it using LZX because my LHA always produced corrupted archive. Strange...

Well done March, works perfectly.
Do you know if there is a way to handle the keys "page up/page down" correctly?
That would be very nice for navigating in the bash or in programs like pine.

@ hiTCH-HiKER & March
KME is a classic Amiga keymap editor, so it is not able to recognize keys not present on the original Amiga keyboard. However <Page Up>, <Page Down>, <Home>, <End> and so on can be implemented associating the needed codes to the relevant keys of the numeric keypad. You can improve your work, March!

@ Targhan & March
Although I had the idea to edit the keymap and create a specific "communication keymap" to solve once and for all this long-standing problem concerning Telnet programs, I have never used these programs. So I think that March has the necessary competence to write the FAQ, just expanding his list.

@ all
The "communication keymap" generated for SSH should work unchanged for any program you like, included unix shells ported to the Amiga.

I have a little problem with the SSH Script. When I used it, then my original MorphOS german keymap isn't restored. How can I change the MorphOS keymap via shell command, as the keymaps don't seem to be in keymaps:?

@DoctorMorbius_FP:
How can these codes be added to the keymap? Is there some kind of keymap editor available?