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Andreas_Wolf

# 70
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 12149 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

> day X is coming closer.

Indeed:

"Now that we got to the point where all three of the most popular Amiga like OSes can be booted on QEMU I've put up a page for tracking the status of this. You can find there the list of outstanding patches and known problems and workarounds by each OS and some discussion of what is it, what is it not and what it could be in the future [...]: http://zero.eik.bme.hu/~balaton/qemu/amiga/"
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2018-07/msg00098.html
»04.07.18 - 09:00

Leo

# 71
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18

It boots :)

morphos-qemu.png
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»04.07.18 - 12:43

polluks

# 72
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 801 from 2007/10/23

From: Gelsenkirchen,...
Quote:

Leo schrieb:
It boots :)

morphos-qemu.png

Aha, please execute Code:
```
c:cpu
```
Pegasos II G4: MorphOS 3.9, Zalman M220W · ~~iMac G5 12,1 17", MorphOS 3.18~~
Power Mac G3: OSX 10.3 · PowerBook 5,8: OSX 10.5, MorphOS 3.18
»04.07.18 - 21:19

Leo

# 73
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
Quote:
polluks wrote:
Quote:

Leo schrieb:
It boots :)

morphos-qemu.png

Aha, please execute Code:
```
c:cpu
```
Ht1xC4a.png
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»05.07.18 - 08:48

Papiosaur

# 74
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2217 from 2003/4/10

From: France

Excellent news !

Thanks Leo for the snapshot.

It usable ?
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»05.07.18 - 12:23

Leo

# 75
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18

Quote:

Papiosaur wrote:
Excellent news !

Thanks Leo for the snapshot.

It usable ?

Not really, not yet:

- it crashes frequently (I guess its due to qemu emulation)
- it's slow (it takes at least 2min to open OWB & several minutes to show installation wizard)
- it's 2D only and I guess there's no sound

But still, I think it's a good thing to have the ability to run it on any platform. For example I can now finally test cross compiled apps I created. Before that I couldn't do it unless I decided to buy a machine just for that.

[ Edited by Leo 05.07.2018 - 13:01 ]
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»05.07.18 - 12:59

Papiosaur

# 76
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2217 from 2003/4/10

From: France

Thanks Leo for your answer

I look that :
Quote:

Known problems:

- USB devices don't work on mac99.

- The OpenBIOS firmware does not correctly describe PCI buses of the emulated machine which makes MorphOS try to access devices on the wrong PCI bus. This OpenBIOS patch provides a workaround, a patched OpenBIOS binary is here.

- Mouse movement periodically freezes and CPU usage is high on mac99.
This is caused by a high priority temperature.sensor task which presumably tries to access temperature sensors over I2C but this is not emulated by QEMU so this hangs waiting for an interrupt which is not delivered so it has to time out. Workaround is to lower priority of this task from Utilities / Task Manager until this is implemented in QEMU.<\li>

- MorphOS does not boot on sam460ex
For some reason it cannot find PCI devices and cannot boot because of that (either won't find SATA controller and thus boot CD or HD or if booting from usb-storage with the SD card image it won't find display device so no output). This problem may actually exist on real hardware too according to this forum thread, where similar issues are reported but I'm not sure. It looks like MorphOS tries to access PCI registers with an offset of 2 for some reason. This may not happen on real hardware or may wrap in some way and provide different results with some devices working and others failing or people just use PCIe graphics and avoid PCI devices.

Maybe some improvement by MorphOS Team for a best emulation in next release?
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www.meta-morphos.org
www.morphos-storage.net
»05.07.18 - 15:51

Leo

# 77
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18

Quote:

Papiosaur wrote:
Thanks Leo for your answer

Maybe some improvement by MorphOS Team for a best emulation in next release?

I don't think so. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the contrary (like it would stop working).
Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
»05.07.18 - 16:15

Intuition

# 78
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

Leo wrote:
Quote:

Papiosaur wrote:
Excellent news !

Thanks Leo for the snapshot.

It usable ?

Not really, not yet:

- it crashes frequently (I guess its due to qemu emulation)
- it's slow (it takes at least 2min to open OWB & several minutes to show installation wizard)
- it's 2D only and I guess there's no sound

But still, I think it's a good thing to have the ability to run it on any platform. For example I can now finally test cross compiled apps I created. Before that I couldn't do it unless I decided to buy a machine just for that.

Which branch did you pull to build this Leo?

I want to try it on my 4.2GHz 7700k.
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»06.07.18 - 10:00

Leo

# 79
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18

@Intuition: master.
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»07.07.18 - 13:55

Intuition

# 80
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

Leo wrote:
@Intuition: master.

Thanks Leo, I'll pull it later and have a play.

I hope the recently released MorphOS for Workgroups works :)
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»07.07.18 - 15:52

Intuition

# 81
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Woohoo!!!!

Posting this from MorphOS 3.11 in QEMU master from a Thinkpad with 2.9GHz 4th Gen i7 CPU and it's quite good. Graphics are a bit slow but the CPU is much fastter than I expected it to be. Should be a lot faster when I try it on my 7700k tower hopefully.
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»08.07.18 - 19:09

KennyR

# 82
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4

From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...

Quote:

Intuition wrote:
Woohoo!!!!

Posting this from MorphOS 3.11 in QEMU master from a Thinkpad with 2.9GHz 4th Gen i7 CPU and it's quite good. Graphics are a bit slow but the CPU is much fastter than I expected it to be. Should be a lot faster when I try it on my 7700k tower hopefully.

Remember benchmark tools are very misleading under emulation. You should try something CPU intensive like file compression or re-encoding video.
»08.07.18 - 19:32

Intuition

# 83
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

KennyR wrote:
Quote:

Intuition wrote:
Woohoo!!!!

Posting this from MorphOS 3.11 in QEMU master from a Thinkpad with 2.9GHz 4th Gen i7 CPU and it's quite good. Graphics are a bit slow but the CPU is much fastter than I expected it to be. Should be a lot faster when I try it on my 7700k tower hopefully.

Remember benchmark tools are very misleading under emulation. You should try something CPU intensive like file compression or re-encoding video.

I haven't benchmarked it yet, just commented based on the general feel and snappiness of it etc.

Going to try installing it to a disk image next, hopefully will take less than 30 minutes! :)
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»08.07.18 - 19:49

Intuition

# 84
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

I got it installed to a qcow2 image but have no idea how to make qemu boot from it, so I'm going to bed and will tackle it tomorrow evening.
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»08.07.18 - 23:19

Jim

# 85
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28

From: Delaware, USA

Yeah, let us know how it benches, Nik.

Since I have an i7 Thinkpad that sounds interesting.
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»10.07.18 - 02:15

Andreas_Wolf

# 86
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 12149 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

Video of MorphOS 3.11 on QEMU 3.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZJ42NPG8Qo
»15.07.18 - 12:49

Jim

# 87
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28

From: Delaware, USA

Quote:

Andreas_Wolf wrote:
Video of MorphOS 3.11 on QEMU 3.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZJ42NPG8Qo

That looks surprisingly usable.
Emulating a SAM460 with SM502 graphics.
Think it requires that much cpu power?

I have no intention of buying anything as extreme as a threadripper cpu.

Still, that's cool.
A system that could potentially run MorphOS and OS4 sessions simultaneously.
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»15.07.18 - 17:43

ThePlayer

# 88
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24

From: Hamburg/Germany

Quote:

Jim schrieb:

I have no intention of buying anything as extreme as a threadripper cpu.

Still, that's cool.
A system that could potentially run MorphOS and OS4 sessions simultaneously.

I guess an AMD Ryzen 1700 or 2700x should run this as good as the Threadripper. And this CPUs arn't that expensive.
I will try it in two weeks when i am back from vacation on my Ryzen 1600 and Post some benchmarks.
Is it possible to use the Networkstack in MorphOS on QEMU?
PowerMac G5 Quad 2.5 running UWQHD Resolution
»15.07.18 - 18:04

polluks

# 89
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 801 from 2007/10/23

From: Gelsenkirchen,...

Will be qemu part of MorphOS 4?
Pegasos II G4: MorphOS 3.9, Zalman M220W · ~~iMac G5 12,1 17", MorphOS 3.18~~
Power Mac G3: OSX 10.3 · PowerBook 5,8: OSX 10.5, MorphOS 3.18
»15.07.18 - 20:20

Andreas_Wolf

# 90
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 12149 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

> Emulating a SAM460 with SM502 graphics.

No, it's emulating a PowerMac3,1 with SM502 plugin card.
»15.07.18 - 22:50

Intuition

# 91
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

ThePlayer wrote:
Quote:

Jim schrieb:

I have no intention of buying anything as extreme as a threadripper cpu.

Still, that's cool.
A system that could potentially run MorphOS and OS4 sessions simultaneously.

I guess an AMD Ryzen 1700 or 2700x should run this as good as the Threadripper. And this CPUs arn't that expensive.
I will try it in two weeks when i am back from vacation on my Ryzen 1600 and Post some benchmarks.
Is it possible to use the Networkstack in MorphOS on QEMU?

Only when booting from the CD image. Once installed the OS freezes on boot up if you have networking enabled, no matter which emulated network card you use.
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»16.07.18 - 08:00

waldiamiga

# 92

Butterfly

Posts: 94 from 2007/7/25

From: Krakow, Poland

Okay, I'm trying to run MorphOS ... Just for sport, but the Windows7 console being blown out spits me something like:
Code:


d:EmulacjaQEmu>qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 512 -vga none -device
 sm501 -cdrom morphos-3.11.iso -boot d -prom-env boot-device=cd:,mac_ppc32boot
.img' -bios openbios-qemu.elf -serial stdio -net nic,model=sungem -net user
C>> annot manage 'misc display controller' PCI device type 'display':
>>  126f 501 (3 80 0)
>> set_property: NULL phandle

>> =============================================================
>> OpenBIOS 1.1 [Jun 27 2018 13:46]
>> Configuration device id QEMU version 1 machine id 1
>> CPUs: 1
>> Memory: 512M
>> UUID: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
>> CPU type PowerPC,G4
milliseconds isn't unique.
Output device screen not found.
Output device screen not found.
Trying cd:,mac_ppc32boot.img'...
No valid state has been set by load or init-program

0 >
(qemu-system-ppc.exe:4328): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not load a pixbuf from /org/gt
k/libgtk/theme/Adwaita/assets/bullet-symbolic.svg.
This may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be found.

Can anyone familiar with the topic write to me where the error is?

[ Edited by waldiamiga 16.07.2018 - 13:12 ]

»16.07.18 - 11:05

jacadcaps

# 93
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3100 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

Use absolute paths to hd and cd images and perhaps try with -sdl.
»16.07.18 - 11:47

jacadcaps

# 94
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3100 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

Tested and played around a bit on a E5-1650 3.6GHz Xeon box and even with such a high end CPU it gives me sub-Efika speeds. Meh, won't run again.
»16.07.18 - 11:50