Actually, to be totally accurate, I neither confirmed or denied the numbers I just said they did not come from me.

With regards to the next A1-X1000 production run, it was announced a while ago (11th March). The boards are already in manufacture, have been paid for and are nearing completion. As a result AmigaKit are now taking firm pre-orders.

If you want to believe the timing of the annoucement is in anyway related to the MOS3.0 release that is your preogative. However, I can assure you its not.

TrevorD

> It's good to see Trevor debunking those numbers as the unrealistic
> and obvious *false* claims as they were

The question as to who "they" are who attempted to "try to sell us" the 540 number is still unanswered. Don't you want to reveal it by now please? I'm eager to know as well.

> a day or so

More like 3 days (8th vs. 11th).

> when you at the same say that it might take as long as *6 months*
> until you can actually deliver a product!

As far as I have understood the announcement, delivery of the second batch to end customers is supposed to start in July, and it might take as much as 6 months for the *last* unit to ship, not for the first.

> 2005 level performance

I still think it's more like 2007.

@TrevorDick

OK then, I'll take your word for it! It doesn't matter anyway...

[ Edited by takemehomegrandma 12.06.2012 - 14:40 ]

Wasnt it Senex?

> The boards are already in manufacture, have been paid for and are
> nearing completion.

Does that mean that a certain X1000 betatester's claim that the Nemo boards for the second batch are readily produced and being shelved at AmigaKit since the beginning of May is false?

> Wasnt it Senex?

I don't know. If he was, then I wonder why he would want to "try to sell us" hyped numbers (as takemehomegrandma put it). And I wonder why takemehomegrandma would refer to Senex as "they".

Ah, I see what you mean there. Anyway, best luck to them.

Am I the only one wondering why we have a 39 page long thread about X1000 here on MorphZone.org that has constantly been bumped since June 2010? Isn't that kind of hilarious, if you think about it? And there is one about the Sam 460 as well! Neither of these has *any relevance to MorphOS whatsoever*, that was made crystal clear very early on in both of these threads, so isn't it about time we have them locked and passed on into history?

Please?

[ Edited by takemehomegrandma 12.06.2012 - 17:30 ]

> Isn't that kind of hilarious, if you think about it? [...] Neither
> of these has *any relevance to MorphOS whatsoever*, that was made
> crystal clear very early on in both of these threads, so isn't it
> about time we have them locked and passed on into history?

I think one of the MorphOS Team members expressed it well:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7183&start=417

:-)

Sam 460 and X1000 is better being discussed at AW.net or amigans.net. There is the audience, it's of zero relevance here.

PLEASE moderators, lock these threads, and let us focus on MorphOS instead!

[ Edited by takemehomegrandma 12.06.2012 - 18:10 ]

@itix

Quote:

http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2012-06-00032-EN.html

Quote:

Dunno. Does snx mean that Martin is the author, or was this translated/interpreted incorrectly? *shrug*

#6

> Sam 460 and X1000 is better being discussed at AW.net or amigans.net. [...]
> PLEASE moderators, lock these threads

Aren't those by chance the sites you occassionally have accused of unnecessarily locking threads now and then? Interesting turn of events I must say. Hypocrisy comes to mind.

> it's of zero relevance here.

The threads you're asking to be locked are in the same forum category as that one:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8100&forum=3

> let us focus on MorphOS instead!

Then practice what you preach. There's a multitude of MorphOS threads going on in here where you can participate in.

> Does snx mean that Martin is the author, or was this translated/interpreted incorrectly?

Senex is the author of both the German and English versions of that news item. However, how he arrived at the 540 figure is unclear to me as of yet. I'm hoping for a clarification from his side.
And unfortunately, it seems like takemehomegrandma doesn't want to share his knowledge with us.

@Andreas_Wolf

Quote:

Sadly, begging you to lock the thread sounds like he doesn't want anyone else sharing -their- knowledge either.

#6


[ Edited by number6 12.06.2012 - 13:42 ]

> begging you to lock the thread

Me? Guess I should make proper use of my new moderator powers then ;-)

I fail to see why any topic in the "general forum" should be closed as long as it doesn't violate the rules inhere ?

Me? Guess I should make proper use of my new moderator powers then

Bah, I never looked for a title associated with your nick. I just noticed how you tend to keep the site on track and I drew the wrong conclusion. My mistake for paying attention to your posting content instead of your lack of title.

#6

Quote:

Are you really this thick, or are you just pretending? Your fetish for constantly bumping these two threads here on MorphZone is truly obsessive, almost worse than your link-fetish, I can't be the only one thinking so. I don't think anyone minds some off-topic discussions once in a while, *I* certainly don't, but this has been going on for *two years* for christ sake! Every time I come to MorphZone I see either the Sam 460 thread, the X1000 thread, or both, that's something you don't even see on AW.net! IMHO this wouldn't be "unnecessary moderation" at all, it would merely be an overdue cleanup! Very little of relevance to MorphOS, if indeed anything at all, would be lost.


@number6

I think you (purposly?) misunderstood me. I have very much to say about both the X1000 and OS4, and trust me, I *will* continue to speak my mind about those wherever the discussions takes place, and I expect everyone else to do it as well, but I don't think it's of any relevance here whatsoever since neither the X1000, nor the Sam460, nor OS4, will ever be of *any* relevance for MorphOS (or indeed, never of any relevance *period*)! If you tried to imply that what I said was about *censorship*, i.e. that I would want to "prevent the truth about X1000 to come out", then you're just too funny...

takemehomegrandma,
Quote:

I have no problem with it here, just speaking for myself. I'd rather Morphzone not go the Amigans.net route and tightly limit discussion. Besides, MorphOS is the clear winner of all the Amiga-like choices so I have no fears of X1000/OS4 taking over. Only locking and moderating I like is pure trolls.

> Are you really this thick, or are you just pretending?

Neither. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy.

> Your fetish for constantly bumping these two threads here on MorphZone
> is truly obsessive, almost worse than your link-fetish

I'm bumping those threads whenever I come across information that has enough bearing on matters that have been discussed in those threads. That's what I think is legitimate usage of the message board thread concept. Would you prefer me starting a new thread for every posting instead?
Btw, I'm looking forward to you starting a thread about my top ten fetishes, including a poll ;-)

> I can't be the only one thinking so.

I'm confident this is true. You should start a poll to be sure.

> I don't think anyone minds some off-topic discussions once in a while

How can off-topic discussion be off-topic to the subforum explicitly dedicated to off-topic discussions? From the "General Forum" description:

"This forum is for off-topic discussions. Bear in mind that standard rules apply: no flaming, baiting, or other forms of offensive posts."

> this has been going on for *two years* for christ sake!

You mean there is a limit on how long a thread is allowed to run?

> Every time I come to MorphZone I see either the Sam 460 thread, the X1000 thread, or both

Why don't you start a thread in the "Website" subforum of MorphZone and suggest there to the administration to move the "General Forum" threads off the front page?

> that's something you don't even see on AW.net!

They have their "Free for All" threads moved off the front page. You are free to suggest that to the MorphZone administration.

> IMHO this wouldn't be "unnecessary moderation" at all

In my opinion, locking a thread that runs within the correct subforum and completely complies with all self-imposed rules and regulations of MorphZone.org is very unnecessary.

> it would merely be an overdue cleanup!

No, that would require deleting the threads, not just locking them.

> Very little of relevance to MorphOS, if indeed anything at all

That's why it's in the "General Forum" category.

> would be lost.

Why don't you lead the way and delete all the postings you have made to those two threads you want to see locked? That would be consistent for a start, and it's true that this way nothing of relevance would get lost.

> I have very much to say about both the X1000 and OS4, and trust me, I *will* continue
> to speak my mind about those wherever the discussions takes place

So you admit having kept this thread running, yet you want to see it locked? Hypocrisy.

> I don't think it's of any relevance here whatsoever since neither the X1000,
> nor the Sam460, nor OS4, will ever be of *any* relevance for MorphOS

That's exactly why those threads are living in this very forum category, see? And btw, it's obvious that whenever discussion was about the X1000 hardware (mainly Nemo board) you tried hard to change the discussion to OS4, rendering your claim that you don't want OS4 to be discussed here on MorphZone hypocrisy at its best.

> If you tried to imply that what I said was about *censorship* [...] then you're just too funny...

Having threads locked that run within the correct subforum and completely comply with all self-imposed rules and regulations of the site would be a prime example for censorship. But then, we already know that you have your very own definitions of terms.

This is on general discussion zone. Nobody forces anyone to read anything.

@Andreas

Since more than 150 can't be verified by now, I've adjusted the number in the news-item meanwhile and explained in a comment that the number did origin from an anonymous german source.

We had a couple of news submissions with the content of the e-mail from AmigaKit, but this source here did in addition also include the header as well as the comment, that going by that flawed sending of the e-mail there would be at least 540 additional people interested in the board.

Since I didn't suspect someone spreading slipped business secrets of A-EON to be someone who inflates such numbers (and since, as it did, a faked number would be instantaneously be falsified by all the other recipients of the e-mail), I guilelessly took that number for real.

After all, it might still be a valid number - thus I hope that as requested in my german comment either the anonymous source gives me more details how he came to that conclusion or that some of the e-mail recipients publish their respective first and last one of the 150 entries (garbled by e.g. just spelling the first two or three letters of the addresses) to see if it might have been four different e-mails of max. 150 recipients each.

But for the time being I've changed the news-item to 150 now. In case it turns out that the number of 540 people indeed was a hoax, I do apologize of course for this canard.

[ Edited by Senex 12.06.2012 - 22:22 ]

@hooligan

OK, let's continue then! Indeed there are still *lots* of things to be said about X1000 and OS4, and more and more stuff seems to constantly surface as the farce rolls on. And for the record, I think the moderation on MZ is rock solid...

[ Edited by takemehomegrandma 12.06.2012 - 22:15 ]

> this source here did in addition also include the header as well as the comment,
> that going by that flawed sending of the e-mail there would be at least 540 additional
> people interested in the board. Since I didn't suspect someone spreading slipped
> business secrets of A-EON to be someone who inflates such numbers (and since, as
> it did, a faked number would be instantaneously be falsified by all the other recipients
> of the e-mail), I guilelessly took that number for real.

Thanks for outlining how this incident has come to pass. Appreciated.

Am I wrong, but is the interest in the X1000 here bordering on the obsessiveness?

IT DOES NOT RUN MORPHOS, WHY DO YOU CARE WHO OWNS ONE?