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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    KennyR
    Posts: 666 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Hyperion sold them the rights

    I think they rather licensed the rights to them or sold them a license ;-)


    Doesn't matter whether they licensed it, sold it, rented it, prostituted it or wrapped it around their penis and conceived children with it. It wasn't theirs. Please stick to the point.

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    Even if true, the Manomio incident happened as long as 8 years ago.


    And?


    [ Edited by KennyR 19.03.2019 - 20:37 ]
  • »19.03.19 - 21:36
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10541 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Doesn't matter whether they licensed it, sold it, rented it, prostituted it or wrapped it [...]

    I'm with number6 here.

    > Please stick to the point.

    Please at least *try* to stick to the truth, even if it's hard sometimes.

    >>> iComp are practically the only company still in speaking terms with Hyperion.

    >> Even if true, the Manomio incident happened as long as 8 years ago.

    > And?

    What is the case now wasn't necessarily the case back then, obviously.
  • »19.03.19 - 21:57
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    KennyR
    Posts: 666 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Please stick to the point.

    Please at least *try* to stick to the truth, even if it's hard sometimes.


    If I can give you a tip, it's not to fussily nitpick everything people say, and just go with the actual point. You're infamous for it, when you do it a lot nobody reads it, and it often drives the conversation completely off track for no good reason.

    Your sole contribution to this conversation was pointing out who IComp got the Commodore licence from. Thanks for that, but everything else you wrote was useless verbiage. Someone had actually predicted it on IRC when I wrote "bought" (of which I still give zero shits about the distinction, tbh), and said I should change it before you got wind - but I said, nah, not even Andreas could be that uselessly pedantic. Thanks for disappointing me.

    [ Edited by KennyR 19.03.2019 - 21:08 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10541 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > If I can give you a tip [...]

    Please spare me the patronizing.

    > when you do it a lot nobody reads it

    Then just don't, easy :-)

    > Your sole contribution to this conversation was pointing out who IComp got the
    > Commodore licence from. [...] everything else you wrote was useless verbiage.

    I also pointed out that I don't deem it more likely that it was iComp who put Manomio in contact with Hyperion than that it was anybody else or nobody in particular at all, as today's perceived isolation of Hyperion wasn't there 8 years ago (or was it even more like 9 years ago?).

    > Someone had actually predicted it on IRC when I wrote "bought" [...],
    > and said I should change it

    You should listen to those who know better :-)

    > Thanks for disappointing me.

    You're welcome. Seems I'm not that predictable ;-)
  • »19.03.19 - 22:26
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    number6
    Posts: 354 from 2008/8/10
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Hyperion sold them the rights

    I think they rather licensed the rights to them or sold them a license ;-)

    > iComp are practically the only company still in speaking terms with Hyperion.

    Even if true, the Manomio incident happened as long as 8 years ago.

    > If Jens himself has bought Commodore rights from Hyperion too,
    > he'd be in very deep doo-doo.

    That's why he licensed from another company.


    Slow day and just trying to clarify some history here.
    As you know from my prior details posted about Manomio and IAmiga, this was about Amiga perceived rights.

    In reviewing this thread, however, I keep seeing the references to the Commodore kernel as being central to the dispute.

    Do you have any information/link to support this?

    I've seen such an allegation on another site, but also with no source. Upon contact, this poster also had no recollection of where this information might have come from.

    I'm only talking about the Hyperion connection obviously. Manomio's issues with the app store and anything about their demise is a different topic..

    If you know anything about this, I'd appreciate being filled in for sake of history. Thanks.

    #6
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10541 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > In reviewing this thread, however, I keep seeing the references
    > to the Commodore kernel as being central to the dispute. Do you
    > have any information/link to support this?

    No, I do not have any information/link to support "the Commodore kernel [...] being central to the dispute", or anything else "being central to the dispute" for that matter.
  • »16.09.19 - 15:46
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