My peg1 2 peg2G4 upgrade.
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    Doraemon
    Posts: 137 from 2003/7/1
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    I paid my Peg1 to peg2G4 upgrade a lot of time ago (In december of 2003) and I don't have news about it.
    Bbrv do not answer my emails and I know that vesalia and gssdata have new peg2 in stok. Thats normal???
    What about my peg?

    I think that morphzone its not the correct place to say this things but seems that brv doesn't know another language.

    I think that 9 months of time its a lot of time for it.

    I need a sollution!
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    Order of the Butterfly
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    Doraemon wrote:
    I paid my Peg1 to peg2G4 upgrade a lot of time ago (In december of 2003) and I don't have news about it.
    Bbrv do not answer my emails and I know that vesalia and gssdata have new peg2 in stok. Thats normal???
    What about my peg?

    I think that morphzone its not the correct place to say this things but seems that brv doesn't know another language.

    I think that 9 months of time its a lot of time for it.

    I need a sollution!


    Hi Doraemon, to who did you paid your upgrade ? Assuming it is not to genesi directly I doubt BBRV can do anything for you.
    Vesalia propose upgrade so you might contact them and get back your money wherever it is :)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
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    From what BBRV talked about inthe past Genesi was the ONLY place to pay and do an upgrade from my understanding. They never authorized any vendors to accept payment for upgrades. Get your money back and pay Genesi.
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    Doraemon
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    I bought it at www.pegasosppc.com.
    Its a genesi website, no?
    Genesi have responsabilities about it?
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    Order of the Butterfly
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    Doraemon wrote:
    I bought it at www.pegasosppc.com.
    Its a genesi website, no?
    Genesi have responsabilities about it?


    Yes it is a Genesi website but AFAIK they don't propose Peg 1/peg2 upgrade on the website and they didn't collect money for upgrade.
    So what did you pay to who ?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    Doraemon, you will be shipped a Pegasos II G4 this month when we have completed our large outstanding shipment. We ask that you provide your old board to HAM^sfl. HAM^sfl is one of the people that keeps the things going in Spain. He recently did a great job at Euskal. :-)

    We recently did with with Ola Jenson and itix too...;-)

    Best regards,
    R&B :-)


    [ Edited by bbrv on 2004/8/10 15:12 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    I'm sure HAM^sfl will do great intros for pegasos :-)

    you can check out some of his Amiga intros here :-)

    and here you may find more intros

    His latest intro, Codex Permutatio was third at Euskal 12.

    Note that he does everything (gfx, music and code)... impressive
  • »10.08.04 - 13:57
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    Doraemon
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    Well, I will have my peg 2 in one month more or less
    All OK
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    I'll try to put you in touch with him.

    May you send me a PM when you receive your G4?
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    I am happy it worked nicely for Ham. Good work Crumb, and big thanks to Genesi.

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    MikePig
    Posts: 10 from 2003/10/11
    Hi all !

    To BBRV

    What about the other guys (like me ...) who paid Genesis for the
    upgrade and who still haven't got the upgrade ?!

    Regards

    Mike
  • »10.08.04 - 17:36
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    @ BBRV

    Nice news for Doraemon. But what is the situation for us? I'm waitting a solution from you and APS for my PEG1 -> PEG II since long time to. Will I received my board like Doraemon ? Or Does I have to wait more ?

    Thnx

    serge
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  • Caterpillar
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    amigafil
    Posts: 23 from 2003/9/6
    To BBRV

    I am in the same state like serge. So how long wait time ?
    Powerbook and Pegasos II G4 MOS 3.7 :-)
  • »10.08.04 - 18:50
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    I did my command on 12 february 2004 after this message from APS :


    Bonjour,

    Toutes les commandes de Pegasos II doivent etre passées avant le 20
    Fevrier
    et les reglements (Cartes Bleues ou cheques) recus avant cette date afin
    que vous puissiez etre servis lors de la prochaine production. Il ne
    sera
    plus possible de proceder a une mise a jour Pegasos 1 vers Pegasos II
    apres
    le 20 Fevrier.

    merci pour votre comprehension,

    A bientot

    PS: nous vous rappelons qu'en cas de reglement par cheque celui-ci ne
    sera
    encaissé qu'a la livraison du materiel.

    APS sarl
    15 Bis rue Louis Maurel, 13006 Marseille France
    Tel: +33 (0)491.00.30.44
    Web: http://www.aps.fr - http://www.pegasosppc.fr
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  • »10.08.04 - 20:18
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi!
    Here still the same!
    I ordered the upgrade 1 year ago at vesalia (germany), and nobody told me
    to prepay it...
    So if there's a chance, I'll finally get my Peg2 I'll pay it TODAY
    (but to whom?)...
    Wannahaveit, wannahaveit!!!!
    bye
    frostwork
  • »11.08.04 - 10:15
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
    Hi Serge,
    Did you use credit card or check to order your upgrade ?
    I know APS preferred to have checks to be able to cash the money only once the upgrade would have been sent to the customers but had to accept credit card payments because some customers wanted so.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    @cdfr

    I payed by check.
    My problemfor is not the money.
    My problem is :
    I dont know when I'll have my PEG II. Maybe in 1 or 2 years. Maybe
    never :-(

    BBRV told to us "people did upgrades by APS" the UpDates will be done
    but BBRV dont know when and how. It's very frustrating, specialy when
    we know boards were produced and some other upgrades will be honored
    soon.
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    Doraemon
    Posts: 137 from 2003/7/1
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    I see in ann.lu that the online store of pegasosppc.com have a new batch of pegasos2 mainboards in stock.
    The happy day its approaching? I think that yes, no?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    I guess you'll have your shiny new Peg2 soon :-)

    Ham^sfl wants to get the Peggy soon, he has been studying OpenGL and has quite a lot of ideas to implement :-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv, any news about this?
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
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    If you want some responses from BBRV about "Upgrade", take a look at this great thread : Question for BBRV.

    Good luck...
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    Hi BatteMan, we thought you said "BYE!" so what are you still doing here?! :-o Actually, we rather you stay, so before you and your friends have another temper-tantrum did you see this:

    From: Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck <bbrv@genesi.lu>
    Date: September 1, 2004 4:22:33 PM CEST
    To: <morphos@ml.morphos.net>
    Subject: Re: [morphos] Re: Wondering about Pegasos upgrade...

    Hi Alan, hi Dorothy, hi MorphOS list...

    Yes!

    As we have said MANY times there will be an opportunity to upgrade.

    It will cost 200 Euros.

    It will require an exchange of the Pegasos I G3 you have for the Pegasos II G4 that we will provide.

    The Pegasos II is about to have a significant cost reduction, but this cannot be done until we fulfill our outstanding purchase orders.

    We plan to be able to implement the upgrade offer after the Freescale SNDF schedule is complete in Asia.

    The only details of SNDF Japan (21 October) and SNDF China (25-26 October) are here:

    http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/homepage.jsp?nodeId=02M0ylfVS0lM0ynypzMP

    It is very difficult for us to speak publicly about a price reduction and an upgrade offer when we are selling the Pegasos II as shown here -- -- to corporate customers for $1400!

    http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php

    The good news is that Freescale and *maybe* IBM too are finally behind the platform. For example, in September, Freescale will be providing 100 ODW to developers that Genesi/bplan has designated and 75 more for pilot projects, including Avalanche that will be featured again here in the September issue:

    http://www-306.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/

    If you missed the first article it is here:

    http://www-1.ibm.com/technology/power/newsletter/august2004/article3.html

    Freescale actually bought these machines and then is turning around and giving them away to support the platform. It would be hard to imagine greater support and now you and others may understand why we wait to activate the upgrade opportunity.

    By the way, MorphOS is very important to Freescale and it looks like IBM is now also becoming interested. They have ask for an article for the Nov/Dec issues of both newsletters.

    BTW, here is a picture of the new Pegasos.

    http://images.genesi.lu/pegasosnew.jpg

    The idea is that this complete system will sell for $899 - $999. There will be a wireless PCI card inside and a module to plug into your home TV set, so you can leave it on the "desktop" and still use it for fun on the tele.

    Best regards,
    Raquel and Bill :-)
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
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    BBRV : Yes, I said "Bye". But I didn't say bye to MorphZone and Pegasos, but to you and Genesi.
    I like this machine and his OS, and I just bought a Pegasos II G4, because you don't respect your promise. It's not a new Pegasos II, Frodon sold it to me. So, I have three Pegasos at home, and you must be happy 'cause your strategy finally works. No upgrade and no money loose for me, and more, I bought a Pegasos II like a lot of my frenchs friends...

    So, you see, I do it for my passion of the Pegasos, and not for your incredible talent of sale.

    You know all my life, are you happy now ? :-D

    Finally, you give a date... So, I'm waiting and I'll see.

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2004/9/3 14:03 ]

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2004/9/3 14:15 ]
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    BatteMan, sometimes we ask ourselves why we have such patience with people like you...:-) MorphZone is Genesi. The Pegasos is Genesi. Neither, will be successful without customers like you, but there are not enough of "you" yet. If we had continued to honor the upgrade offer when we did as we did, we would have done so at our own peril and there would probably not be a MorphZone or Pegasos today. We have explained this many times. We have done our best to keep our user base satisfied and while we are not sure why there seems to be such a communication problem with you we are grateful that you now have the Pegasos II you have wanted (thanks Bertrand! :-) ). In the meanwhile, we will keep doing what we are trying to do so we still have something to talk about for years to come...:-D

    R&B :-)
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
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    You're patient because a customer is One customer, and you don't have a lot of customers, sadly.

    But, all is cool.
    Everybody is happy, I'm happy (for my Peg), you're happy (for your ODW).

    The Pegasos is Genesi, but what about MorphOS ?

    You'll be successful without me, but without Beta-tester I and II, the Pegasos should be dead today...

    Ans don't forget bPlan, they have all in their hands (IP of Pegasos) and MosTeam (IP of MorphOS).

    Bye ;-)

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2004/9/3 15:07 ]
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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