Or you could replace the XGI card with a supported Radeon card.

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[ Edited by Velcro_SP on 2011/1/29 8:22 ]

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Should work fine out of the box.

There are so many different types of graphics cards even if it is the same vendor. I found one from ASUS and one from Sapphire and it's called ATI RADEON™ 9250 AGP 256 MB DDR, 128bit, 1 X VGA, 1 X DVI, 1 X TV-OUT. It is said that this card can switch between 1.5V and 3.3V. Is this a card that will work with Efika and MorphOS on it? Or is there a problem with that the card can switch between both Volt values? Do I need a card that can only speak 3.3V? And will this be the best card for MorphOS? I heard that it is the best for Morphos 1.x but how about 2.x? What else do I have to watch for before buying a card for Efika? Are there any incompatibilites or dangers? I ask because there are cards around that cost less money than this one (it is around 45€) but that are very newer and more modern. Oh and which AGP mode does the Efika support? There is none mentioned in the manual so I suppose it is only AGP 1x but not 2x or evwen fsater?

Patrik

iirc Peg 1/2 and Efika is only AGP x1 as its not real AGP its some kind of haxxored pci deal..

And what aboutthe different voltages? Are there problems to expect with Efika? And what about the board itself? I'm talking about http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/products/products_overview.php?gpid=59&grp=2. There was another one which I do not find atm. I will search for it again. But I found 3 others that have less RAM: http://www.asus.de/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=9250. British site only finds 2 of them.

Hi, I just upgraded my Pegasos-II graphics with a
Sapphire Radeon 9250 AGP card. This card works very
well with Debian Linux, but MorphOS now refuses to
switch screen and halts for ever in SmartFirmware.

Any ideas to fix this problem?

@cyberS

Firmware update

http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/news/update05042004_en.html

Check MD5 checksum before flashing.

Bplan also has a newer firmware than this but only given to those with newer revision Peg2 board.
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5651&forum=11#55059

Newer firmware may not help but it is the first thing to try. After which, you may have to change to a different Radeon model.

Hi Omen,

thanks for your idea, but the FW is uptodate.

Thanks to Piru I got a modded driver - it seems
there was a problem with the PCI ID. Now
MorphOS is useable with this card. :)

Regards!


[ Edited by cyberS on 2008/1/27 20:36 ]

ASUS Radeon 9250/TD 128 DDR AGP - not working

Doesnt show up in OF.

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Does this mean the support of a single card just needs a little tweak? I own an EPoX card which does not even show the FW - the screen stays black. It prevents the Peg from booting then. It works without problems in an x86 system. I bought this one as it was said that 9250 cards would work, but mine does not. Could it be easily supported?

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If it doesn't get past firmware, it's not a MorphOS problem.

It might be that the card isn't 3.3V compatible. If it's not, it should not even fit physically, but too many manufacturers seem to ignore the voltage key standards nowadays, and release 1.5V-only cards with both 3.3V and 1.5V keys...

The page says that it has "Auto detect for AGP 1.0, 2.0,or 3.0 mode". Should this be sufficient to set the right voltage?

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And iirc, that doesn't really have anything to do with AGP voltage...

AGP voltage isn't something you can "just set to whatever you want". Motherboards support (only) certain voltages (which are keyed in AGP connector) and AGP cards are compatible with certain voltages (which are keyed to the card edge connector) If the gfx card isn't compatible with any voltage that the motherboard is able to supply, it won't work. According to the standard, the card shouldn't even physically fit.

Complain to the shop where you bought the card, as it obviously isn't what you assumed it to be (according to the physical appearance)

(that of course assuming that it's a voltage problem)

[ Edited by Jupp3 on 2008/2/28 13:01 ]

Complain goes more to the manufacturer who put incorrect data on his webpage. But as this card was used bought and is very old nowadays there is no way to give it back. At least I know now that it will never work with either Peg or Efika.

BTW now that MOS 2.0 is released are there any plans on releasing new drivers for newer Radeon GFX chips?

@Magnetic,

From your signature I see you are triple-booting into the three OSes that I want to be using.

Can I buy your system, or can you help me duplicate it? I only live a short drive away from Los Angeles where you are. (Short drive is relative to the driver) In other words, can it be done on an Efika, or do I need a Peg2 to run all three with any kind of acceptable speed. I imagine MacOS could slow the Efika to a crawl, if it could be installed in the first place.

What is the best graphic card for the Efika that is supported by MorphOS2?
[ Edited by amigadave on 2008/8/27 18:47 ]

[ Edited by amigadave on 2008/8/27 18:49 ]

@cyberS, (or anyone that can answer)

Forgive me for any stupid questions I may ask, as I am new here and have not had the pleasure of running MorphOS for myself YET! (my attempts to get the PowerUP version installed and running on my A4000 have not been successful).

I am planning on purchasing an EFIKA mobo within the next few days to run MOS2.1 and want to know which graphics card to get. Are you using this Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250 256mb, 128bit card in an EFIKA, or a Pegasos system?

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Again, and just to make it serious and official, any hope for some nVIDIA card drivers (covering PPC Macs) and Radeon 4000HD drivers (PCI-E G5 Macs and SAM460ex)

> any hope for [...] Radeon 4000HD drivers (PCI-E G5 Macs and SAM460ex)

Regarding Sam460:
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9876&forum=11&start=5
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9764&forum=38&start=94

Regarding G5 Macs:
There is no PPC ROM for Radeon graphics cards beyond X1900/X1950.
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=9587&start=39

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Please answers with links, no just hyperlinks.

Yes, I do know there are no ROMS, that is why my Radeon 6870 on X1000 doesnt always finds reset/reboot signal and has to turn off and reboot. Sad sad thing. But it works, surely 2D only in OS 4.1.

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No, you misunderstood this. There is no PPC ROM for Radeon 4000. Therefore it is not Mac compatible.

Your x1000 issue is a video driver problem not related to ROM.

> Please answers with links, no just hyperlinks.

Huh? in hypertext context the term "link" is just short for "hyperlink". There's no difference. Besides:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=38&topic_id=9764&start=98

>> Regarding G5 Macs: There is no PPC ROM for Radeon graphics cards beyond X1900/X1950.

> Yes, I do know there are no ROMS

Then why do you think a Radeon HD4000 can work in a PPC Mac?

> that is why my Radeon 6870 on X1000 doesnt always finds reset/reboot signal and has
> to turn off and reboot.

No, that is not why (as itix said).

>> Regarding G5 Macs: There is no PPC ROM for Radeon graphics cards beyond X1900/X1950.

>> Yes, I do know there are no ROMS

>Then why do you think a Radeon HD4000 can work in a PPC Mac?

No, but it can obviously work with Intel based ROM, like my cards in SAM460ex and X1000. Surely Apple machines are a bit more kinky.

> that is why my Radeon 6870 on X1000 doesnt always finds reset/reboot signal and has
> to turn off and reboot.

>>No, that is not why (as itix said).[/quote]

That is reality I do live each day I turn X1000.

Hope that is not obstacle that cannot be overcomed, or we (team) could bake
their own reflash

RadeonHD is way sooner or later, nVIDIA drivers for cards in Macs would be smart move. Why running from it?

>>>> Regarding G5 Macs: There is no PPC ROM for Radeon graphics cards
>>>> beyond X1900/X1950.

>>> Yes, I do know there are no ROMS

>>Then why do you think a Radeon HD4000 can work in a PPC Mac?

> No, but it can obviously work with Intel based ROM

No, a graphics card with Intel-based ROM can not work in a PPC Mac. I wonder how many times this must be repeated until you grasp it.

> like my cards in SAM460ex and X1000.

U-Boot of the Sam460 and CFE of the X1000 include a rudimentary x86 emulator. That's why they work with graphics cards with non-PPC ROM.

> Surely Apple machines are a bit more kinky.

The PPC Mac OpenFirmware lacks an x86 emulator. Not sure whether that's to be called "kinky".

>>> that is why my Radeon 6870 on X1000 doesnt always finds reset/reboot signal and has
>>> to turn off and reboot.

>> No, that is not why (as itix said).

> That is reality I do live each day I turn X1000.

I don't doubt your problem with your X1000 (btw, I thought you gave it away to get the Sam460?), but opposed to what you claim it is not caused by the lack of a PPC ROM in your Radeon HD6870.

> Hope that is not obstacle that cannot be overcomed

I'm afraid it is.

> or we (team) could bake their own reflash :-)

Nice joke :-)

> RadeonHD is way sooner or later

Not for PPC Macs.