I doubt that a simple port to the Cell PPE is what Kronos meant by "proper use of Cell". And regarding what the Linux community has proven I quote yourself
: "YDL is yet not well optimized
YDL supports it but doesnt have special version. Its just uses general PPC64 Cell part. Linux PPC Kernels since 2.x officially fully supports Cell.
If anyone is more then a sceptic, tools of trade are here
> 3rd party x86 and ARM apps will be easier to recompile then PPC32?
No, that's obviously not what he meant. Hint: the SPEs don't implement any PPC ISA.
Well, that is what he wrote. Cell is PPC ISA compilant (and PPC64 my bad) as general CPU, not slower then G4 I believe at higher clocks. However, using remaining UBER power requires use of other units brings EXTREME performance to any other PPC based CPU and many uses.
> I would pay to [...] Varisys to do such board [...] and different tune you would sing.
Such board would surely remove most of the PS3's limitations discussed in this thread, but the Cell would still be the Cell, and you know my opinion on it in terms of desktop computing.
Yes, you dismiss complex next gen CPU, just because its not fully utilized.
PS3 is limited only in RAM.
If only PPC64 part is used, Cell is slower then G5, faster then G5.
If multimedia parts are used, it blows away any CPU I have heard so far.
Surely, units are not PPC, but hey, there is a way to code streams for it.
In short: Cell can do much even with weak GPU.
> And would run [...] PS3
Just because a board has a Cell chip doesn't mean it can run PS3 games. There's more to the PS3 than just the Cell.
Not much really, just nVIA GPU. And there is already an emulator, but having at least same CPU could make just other components emulated.
Surely, PS3 compatibility would be easier to do on same CPU, similar to WINE under Linux with license from Sony if needed.Quote:
> Open / Libre native MorphOS cell only ports.
In case you mean LibreOffice here: Cell-only port would imply SPE usage, but I doubt a word processor can make good use of the SPEs.
Open Office now Libre is more then words processor. VLC, Blender, Lame and others could fly. Also using both Altivec based PPEs and GPU magnificent visual effects could be achieved without slowing down the system. Potential for parallel efects in games and almost real time render is enourmous.
ANYWAY, GIMP, Libre and Blender should be ported to MorphOS, if they arent.
Check how faster we could go with SOFTWARE RENDERING
For brave ones
And do remember beside Freescale, IBM is our last PPC friend.
If this is not attractive enough, think of Power7
As far as I see IBM discountinued the Cell based blades but they used to cost $10 000. I wonder how low such great board would be today. And would special Linux qualify for IBM Linux support programme.
Overall, Cell is still underestimated and not fully used.
But early 2015, I still expect to show some great games and Linux, even on limited PS3.
Anyway, move away nothing interesting to read here, but how great ideas die.
Even if its still existing and usable tech.
Also, there seems to be technique to use slim PS3 for Linux and ALL PS3 features
EDIT: Had to fix quotes YET AGAIN because the poster is unable to properly use them.[ Edited by ASiegel 19.01.2014 - 19:05 ]
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