id Software to release Doom 3 source code
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 898 from 2010/10/28
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    BTW: I never liked any of the iD games ever until Doom3 came around.
    Nope, never liked doom, quake, or any other iD crapola till Doom3.
    Doom3 is one the best games I have ever played.
    Period.
    :-D
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 898 from 2010/10/28
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    Do we have shader model 3.0 yet?


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    [ Edited by bash64 06.07.2013 - 07:35 ]
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  • Butterfly
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    waldiamiga
    Posts: 72 from 2007/7/25
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    Quote:

    bash64 wrote:
    ok, lets revive this thread.
    What are the possibilities now of porting Doom3?
    :-D


    Suggest bounty, maybe someone will do it.

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cannot be done without shader model 3.0.
    So, waiting on a reply to that.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Do we have shader model 3.0 yet?
    > [...]
    > Cannot be done without shader model 3.0.

    1. Shader 3.0 support in Radeons started with R500 (R300 has Shader 2.0).
    2. MorphOS doesn't have any Shader support currently, not even for R200's Shader 1.x.
    3. Doom 3 uses Shader 2.0, I think.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ok, so it uses shader 2.0 and r300 has shader 2.0?
    Lets do this.
    :-D
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
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    Quote:

    ok, so it uses shader 2.0 and r300 has shader 2.0?
    Lets do this.


    read that again :

    Quote:

    2. MorphOS doesn't have any Shader support currently, not even for R200's Shader 1.x.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Impressive, but a lot of work without shader support.
    And this approach needs to do a lot on the cpu.
    regards
    eliot
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    The same bad effect happens also to many newer custom Q3 arena maps unfortunately. Many are award winners and would be great to have but are unplayable under Morphos unfortunately. Hope the situation improves in the near future. We do have the capable hardware to run Doom 3 and we do also have capable coders so it's a pity not to being able to play it. Think it's a matter of free time or motivation. Perhaps we should return at the option of bounty..
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    waldiamiga
    Posts: 72 from 2007/7/25
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Not pretty at all: [...]

    Looking better:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFLJ-PAokpE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1MzD65j6CY


    Yes, it looks better, it is improving day by day. Let Cowcat have enough enthusiasm and knowledge to overcome obstacles in the code. keep my fingers crossed for that.

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    Here’s a vid that was posted today.

    Finalcat2 channel
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    looks very promising !
    but i'm afraid a G5 will be needed i guess ?

    what is the computer he's running it on ?
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    Hi.

    My system is a MacMini: G4 1.4G, 1G ram, Radeon with 32mg.

    Whatever question, ask now.
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    Thanks for the great work. What data files are used? I’m not even sure if It matters or not if their from Xbox, PC, PlayStation disks or not. Are you taking donations? Do you have a release timeframe?

    Keep up the good work.
    IKE

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    Thanks.

    Datas I use are from an old PC CD/DVD release: 000-004 paks. Then you need 4 more from the patch 1.3.1 (005-008 pak): Those I extracted from the linux distro. But it seems to be also in Steam but with different names.

    I must point out that this port is a proof of concept of how far can be done with minimal requirements till I puke running out of ideas. So a complete release or timeframe is bogus.

    Game is a behemoth and expects as much CPU possible besides a good gfx card, although my tests are done with half of the requirements.

    Donations, I don't know.

    I can share what is done for those really interested but as I wrote: "Proof of concept".




    [ Edited by Cowcat 24.12.2020 - 19:26 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Tom01
    Posts: 168 from 2009/9/20
    Quote:

    XDelusion wrote:
    Ya... come to think of it, I recall downloading a stripped down version of Quake 3 once that was reworked to work on low end machines...

    It looked horrible, but ya, it did play.


    What Low End Machine would that be, Efika?
    I played it on Pegasos G3 with Radeon 8500 with no Problem.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 168 from 2009/9/20
    Quote:

    bash64 wrote:
    BTW: I never liked any of the iD games ever until Doom3 came around.
    Nope, never liked doom, quake, or any other iD crapola till Doom3.
    Doom3 is one the best games I have ever played.
    Period.
    :-D


    That is interesting.
    For me it is the other way round. Doom 3 is the weakest of all id games.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

    Tom01 wrote:
    Quote:

    bash64 wrote:
    BTW: I never liked any of the iD games ever until Doom3 came around.
    Nope, never liked doom, quake, or any other iD crapola till Doom3.
    Doom3 is one the best games I have ever played.
    Period.
    :-D


    That is interesting.
    For me it is the other way round. Doom 3 is the weakest of all id games.


    Indeed. Doom 3 completely lacks the fast action and fun of the other Doom games, including the newer 2016 and Eternal games. As a horror and jumpscare game it works, but there were franchises like Dead Space and Silent Hill that just did that so much better. I found it quite disappointing when I got a demo to play back in the day.

    But it is good that something has appeared for MorphOS. This thread is originally from 2011, and the game is from 2004 - for any other platform that would put it firmly in the retro category.

    [ Edited by KennyR 26.12.2020 - 22:29 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Papiosaur
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    Cowcat a écrit :

    Donations, I don't know.

    I can share what is done for those really interested but as I wrote: "Proof of concept".

    [ Edited by Cowcat 24.12.2020 - 19:26 ]


    Hi Cowcat,

    thanks a lot for this new port for MorphOS! Excellent news!

    If you want i can share your beta on MorphOS-Storage and add a paypal button to support you ;-)

    I can send you a Mac mini with 64Mb too.
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    Quote:

    I can send you a Mac mini with 64Mb too.


    Sorry, I'm late to reply. Thanks but problems are not related to low Vram gfx cards.

    And no "beta" per se: I consider it half-working for even an "alpha" release.

    Would be something out to test? Yep.

    Just hours to rebuild the entire thing and upload it to Github.

    Need more eyes to look at those sources.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    beworld
    Posts: 405 from 2010/2/10
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    Hi CowCat,

    I see your Github (firest commit), and i see it's possible to use SDL2 and OpenGL.

    You use PowerSDL with this port ? maybe (when github commit is finish) can building it with SDL2/OpenGL

    Thanks
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    @beworld

    Yes, mate. I'm using SDL2 library since the beginning. Good work.

    Keep an eye about the gfx rutines used by D3. I'm using the old ARB code from Id so that enables me to bypass any shader code.

    That works for a non-shader D3 port for a linux build, but still fails for MOS and don't know why (among other things).

    Probably in hours I will finish the MOS part. I'm rebuilding it all.
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