ARM for the future?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Slight aside, modern computing needs are not necessarily about the processor...

    I've just edited a video that took 110 GB of data, near gave my laptop a hernia processing it.
    The video was 4K but the output was only 1080p. I had to keep deleting stuff it took up so much room!

    ..and that was just for a YouTube video of me walking up a hill!

    At that sort of resolution, it's all going to come down to disc speed, not CPU speed. I wouldn't like to think what it'd be like editing 4K or -shudder- 8K!
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    @minator

    Things are about to take a major leap on that front soon AFAICT, much is happening on chip based storage now (like Optane but others as well) and with the related transfer buses as well; seems Intel is locking on to PCI Express v5.0 for 2021 (with a brief use of PCI-E v4 more as a stop-gap solution) and USB4/Thunderbolt4 is about to be rolled out. A major leap on all fronts soon, at least from Intel.
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    Apple confirmed their switch of their computers to the ARM ISA now.
    Interesting.

    https://www.osnews.com/story/131941/apple-transitions-the-mac-to-its-own-arm-processors/
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Surprised this didn't get more comment here. Huge move by Apple but not at all surprising.
    I'm surprised they took so long, their processors surpassed Intel clock-for-clock some years ago.


    In other news, the worlds top supercomputer is also now Arm based:

    https://www.techspot.com/news/85733-japan-takes-top-spot-supercomputer-list-arm-powered.html

    I knew they were doing an Arm based machine years ago, but I had no idea it was going to be No.1.
    I don't work for Arm any more, so I don't find out stuff like this nowadays :-/
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    Addendum:

    > the most recent chip they sell with PPC A2 cores (PowerEN)
    > has been introduced in early 2010.

    This was unexpected:

    "the "wire-speed processor" [...] (PowerEN) SoC [...] was not released."
    https://github.com/openpower-cores/a2i
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    By the way will ARM be big endian again?
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    > Intel going ARM instead of Atom!

    ...or Atom with ARM companion core :-)

    "The Intel Programmable Services Engine (Intel PSE) is a dedicated offload engine for IoT functions powered by an ARM Cortex-M7 microcontroller. It provides independent, low-DMIPS computing and low-speed I/Os for IoT applications, plus dedicated services for real-time computing and time-sensitive synchronization. The Intel PSE hosts new functions, including remote out-of-band device management, network proxy, embedded controller lite, and sensor hub. Flexible programming, using open source code or prebuilt firmware binaries, lets you configure the Intel PSE to meet your application requirements and run real-time, ARM-based applications."
    https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2020/09/Intel-Atom-x6000E-Pentium-Celeron-platform-brief.pdf

    "Leverage a dedicated offload engine with the Intel Programmable Services Engine (Intel PSE). Powered by an Arm Cortex-M7 microcontroller, it provides independent, low-DMIPs computing and low-speed I/Os for IoT applications. It also hosts new functions like remote, out-of-band device management, network proxy, embedded controller, and sensor hub."
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/products-and-solutions/processors-and-chipsets/elkhart-lake/overview.html
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    The perfect MorphOS NG platform RPi 400
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    polluks wrote:
    The perfect MorphOS NG platform RPi 400


    Yes, of course. But I am afraid that Bigfoot talked about about ARM64 port, not ARM :-(
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Bigfoot talked about about ARM64 port

    Did he?

    > not ARM :-(

    Cortex-A72 is ARM64.
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Bigfoot talked about about ARM64 port


    Sorry, my mistake. Blonde was too quick with writing...

    correct sentence is:
    Yes, of course. But I am afraid that Bigfoot talked about about AMD64 port, not ARM :-(
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    sailor schrieb:
    Yes, of course. But I am afraid that Bigfoot talked about about AMD64 port, not ARM :-(

    Indeed. I don't know why we have to repeat Apple's mistakes.
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    Update:

    >> In terms of 64-bit ARMv8 (AArch64) cores/microarchitectures,
    >> there exists or has been announced so far: [...]

    This is the most recent list:

    - Cortex-A34, Cortex-A35, Cortex-A53, Cortex-A55, Cortex-A57, Cortex-A65(AE), Cortex-A72, Cortex-A73, Cortex-A75, Cortex-A76(AE), Cortex-A77, Cortex-A78(AE|C), Cortex-R82, Cortex-X1, Neoverse E1, Neoverse N1 and Neoverse V1 from Arm Holdings
    - Cyclone, Typhoon, Twister, Hurricane, Zephyr, Monsoon, Mistral, Vortex, Tempest, Lightning, Thunder, Firestorm, Icestorm, Avalanche and Blizzard from Apple
    - Mongoose M1, Mongoose M2, Meerkat M3, Cheetah M4 and Lion M5 from Samsung
    - Kryo 100, Kryo 200, Falkor, Saphira and Phoenix from Qualcomm
    - Denver, Denver2 and Carmel from Nvidia
    - ThunderX, ThunderX2, ThunderX2T99 (Vulcan) and ThunderX3 (Triton) from Marvell
    - Potenza, Potenza+ and Potenza++ from Ampere
    - Xiaomi FTC660, Xiaomi FTC661, Xiaomi FTC662 and Xiaomi FTC663 from Phytium
    - A64FX from Fujitsu
    - TaiShan v110 from HiSilicon/Huawei

    (Note that announced but scrapped cores (like AMD's K12) have been removed from the list.)

    In terms of ARMv9 cores/microarchitectures, there have been announced so far:

    - Neoverse N2, Cortex-X2, Cortex-A510 and Cortex-A710 from Arm Holdings


    Edit: added Avalanche and Blizzard

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 15.09.2021 - 14:02 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Mac Rumors Forum has a topic about MorphOS. 8-) And so I post the questions and comments about it: Why not continue supporting Apple Computers? Particularly ARM Apple Computers. I would buy a newer Apple Computer if they are ARM ... I think highly of ARM ... but I do not think highly of Modern Mac OS. When Apple discontinues support for their computers over the years, it would be nice if MorphOS could be available on them.

    Also I agree with the other post about Pi Devices.

    It seems that ARM support is increasing even from Microsoft.

    [ Edited by In_Correct 05.06.2021 - 02:49 ]
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