ARM for the future?
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    takemehomegrandma
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    Apple dropping Intel in favor of their own CPU. Very interesting! :-)

    Must be ARM based, since that's where Apple has been working the last couple of years.

    This is what I predicted a long time ago. It makes sense, they will be in full control their entire eco-system.

    It was years ago that Apple showed their first in-house design that surpassed Core i7 in many ways, design wise, and not many generations later they were able to deliver real Core i5 (laptop) performance. And this with a battery powered, passively cooled CPU running in the ~1GHz range. They weren't lying when they claimed "desktop class CPU" in their marketing materials.

    Imagine if they would add a few more cores and construct the chip for optimal heat dissipation using powerful heatsinks with fans, and clock it in the range of 3-4GHz? I have no doubt that they will be able to create a powerful desktop/workstation class CPU able to compete with Intel. Their designs has for years been "over the top" for just phones and ipads, it has shown desktop ambitions all along...

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    Kronos
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    As posted in that other thread, this is just an unsustained rumor.

    Same one was floating around 2-3 years ago and it turned out that "Apple will use ARM in Macs" was just a controller chip for the touchbar and some security features.

    Possible outcome:

    Apple will continue on the effort on making IOS a full blown OS right to the point where the girl in the iPad-add asking "what is a computer" becomes reality.

    At that point an iPadPro and beefed up AppleTV6 might compete with the MacBook and MacMini and if the big OSX-apps get a full version for iOS we might see the Mac fade away.

    But not in in 2020.
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    asrael22
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    This is what I predicted a long time ago. It makes sense, they will be in full control their entire eco-system.


    Do they have the factories to produce those chips?
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    Kronos wrote:
    As posted in that other thread, this is just an unsustained rumor.

    Same one was floating around 2-3 years ago and it turned out that "Apple will use ARM in Macs" was just a controller chip for the touchbar and some security features.


    No, this is a different rumour, it names a specific project and says the executives have given the go-ahead.

    Last time they switched there was a rumour in the Wall Street journal. It turned out Steve Jobs had a friend there...



    Apple have already shown they can produce fast chips, they're not as fast as i7s but that's because you can't produce an i7 in 5 Watts. Going into a laptop or a desktop gives them the higher power they need to build an i7 class chip.

    Beating Intel is not impossible, Qualcomm are already beating the Xeon E5s with lower power and lower price.
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    asrael22
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    I hope not.
    I remember the time when Apple switched over to x86.
    Every developer (including me) had to do extra stuff to support both architectures (PPC, x86) resulting in extra large binaries.
    Now Apple has managed so that there is only one architecture left to support on the desktop, which is x86_64.
    Switching over to ARM returns all the shit.
    Yes, Xcode helps a lot in building multi-arch binaries. But there are a large number of ports which are makefile based that need to be tweaked to support more architectures.

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    And there's more...

    Cortex-A76-high-laptop-performance

    This is Arm's highest end part yet. It'll live happily in a laptop, and I don't mean a low end one!
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