FireFox on MorphOS
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1057 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Hi

    What do you think about opening bounty for a FireFox port for MorphOS? Worth of trying?
    MorphOS 3.x
  • »19.10.09 - 21:35
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  • Butterfly
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    Spihunter
    Posts: 68 from 2003/7/10
    From: Durham, NC USA
    I agree with most of the folks here. OWB is way better then I expected!. I don't really think Firefox is needed.
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  • »22.10.09 - 13:12
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    SMF wrote:

    So when can we start collecting money for this bounty?


    Let's say we wait with that until you've found someone actually capable and willing to start work on such a bounty. If amizilla is anything to go by, I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • »22.10.09 - 13:33
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    pampers
    Posts: 1057 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Thanks for all your replies. I was quite suprised i have to say but I'm not dissapointed at all. So, when FireFox port to MorphOS is not needed at all - let's open bounty for HW accellerated Cairo :)
    MorphOS 3.x
  • »22.10.09 - 21:45
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 1949 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    @pampers

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    So, when FireFox port to MorphOS is not needed at all - let's open bounty for HW accellerated Cairo :)


    Fast cairo would actually be a nice milestone for a Firefox port since that's what FF is using to do its rendering.
  • »23.10.09 - 09:25
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    mobydick
    Posts: 179 from 2004/2/26
    From: Mordor, capita...
    You can laught at me, but I prefer to see new versions of Sputnik instead of FF :(
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  • »23.10.09 - 14:06
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Sir_Lucas
    Posts: 112 from 2006/4/23
    From: Poland
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    That's a very good idea. OWB is really great. HW accelerated Cairo is what we really need right now.
    Just my 2 euro cents ;)
  • »23.10.09 - 17:47
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2627 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:


    mobydick wrote:
    You can laught at me, but I prefer to see new versions of Sputnik instead of FF :(


    I'm not laughing at all.

    BTW, I just Googled about it, and came up with:

    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.amiga.morphos/browse_thread/thread/a9f531f58b21528f

    That was some time though. Marcin, are you reading this? Are you still with us?
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  • »23.10.09 - 18:48
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1057 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Let's open 2 bounties and see how it works:

    1. Cairo with HW support for Pegasos, Efika and Mac Mini

    2. Native Thunderbird port for MorphOS
    MorphOS 3.x
  • »24.10.09 - 00:22
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    mobydick
    Posts: 179 from 2004/2/26
    From: Mordor, capita...
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    Old news... But I have a hope now!

    @pampers

    Look at bounties page. Do you remember this spring? "We need GTK! We need universal IM-client! BOUNTY! BOUNTY!" And so what? 150 euros for half of year. Look at list of open, but not assigned bounties.

    What do you think now about new bounties?

    [ Edited by mobydick on 2009/10/24 16:10 ]
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  • »24.10.09 - 13:08
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1057 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    @mobydick

    Meaby we should do a little bit more of advertisement on the other MorphOS related pages? People might not be aware of bounty system in MOSZone?

    I just don't want to wait until some will decide to do program X or Y. Meaby our community is too small to handle bounty system in proper way, i don't know..
    MorphOS 3.x
  • »24.10.09 - 13:51
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1889 from 2003/10/19
    From: Oxnard, Ca.
    When I started the bounty system here the plan was to give me access to the module to keep it up to dat, that never happened and Dave is to busy. So it basically sat and died. So getting more people to come look at it or know its here wont help solve much.

    [ Edited by Acill on 2009/10/24 7:06 ]
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  • »24.10.09 - 15:05
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 4 from 2015/9/11
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    vulture wrote:
    I agree with the majority here. There's nothing Firefox does that OWB does not once it gets flash support. At least, nothing too important that'll change the netsurfing experience much. The plugin api is there and maybe (I've no idea if it's doable) Fab could make it firefox compatible and if not he'd come up with his own versions of the most popular FFox plugins. I'd also argue that the Friedens would be better off enhancing OWB for OS4.1 to bring it to MOS OWB standards than starting a whole new project. But that's just me.




    html 5 and javascript support is needed, in addition to flash, and other plugins
  • »22.09.15 - 14:27
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  • Caterpillar
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    Posts: 35 from 2015/6/12
    Maybe the guys of TenFourFox could be persuaded to help get Firefox to MorphOS
  • »22.09.15 - 17:48
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 506 from 2007/7/29
    I think it is better to polish the existing browser that is already working on MOS - OWB - rather then starting another browser to port just from scratch. This all bounds capacities which even OWB does not have. There will hardly be any benefit of a Firefox port. Even more it will split interested devs to not know which browser they should continue. So better support OWB. Then no one has to dig out 6 year old threads :-)
  • »22.09.15 - 18:22
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 4883 from 2009/1/28
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    OWB for X64 should probably be our focus now.

    Flash will always be problematic.
    Pampers suggestion about hardware accelerated Cairo definitely deserves consideration.

    [ Edited by Jim 25.09.2015 - 10:35 ]
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  • »22.09.15 - 19:37
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10847 from 2003/5/22
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    >> There's nothing Firefox does that OWB does not once it gets flash support.

    > html 5 and javascript support is needed

    OWB has these of course.
  • »22.09.15 - 20:29
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10847 from 2003/5/22
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    > OWB for X64 should probably be our focus now.

    You mean "our" as in "AROS/x64 users'"? ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 506 from 2007/7/29
    > OWB for X64 should probably be our focus now.

    OWB for PPC should be our focus now as MOS for X64 is still years to go and we should not have to wait for the switch to X64 in order to get OWB updates.
  • »22.09.15 - 20:51
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    NewSense
    Posts: 853 from 2012/11/10
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    That's for sure, we cannot let OWB fall behind current website technology and media types, or what's the point of having an outdated browser that can't load a proportion of websites as it doesn't support current web technology/features - You Tube currently is an issue, just one of a good few, as it can only be watched with OWB in fullscreen view, AFAIK, and the files cannot be downloaded using the scripts.

    However, if there is not going to be an OWB update to keep up with current WebKit releases, considering Fab's current workload, and gamily life, and the incompatability of the current source code/JavaScript implementation, AFAIK, then a port to Firefox or some other browser should be seriously considered, IMHO. ;-)
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  • »23.09.15 - 18:13
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 506 from 2007/7/29
    If someone finds the time to port full Firefox then he should be able to upgrade OWB to get rid of the stoppers in a fraction of time. And who says that Firefox does not have other limitations? I prefer OWB, it is relatively well integrated in MOS and kind of unique to our platform.
  • »24.09.15 - 17:20
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    NewSense
    Posts: 853 from 2012/11/10
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    I like OWB, I really do, but if this is where the OWB versions stop, then that would be something that needs to be side-stepped to stay current, that's my only concern.
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  • »24.09.15 - 19:24
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4883 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > OWB for X64 should probably be our focus now.

    You mean "our" as in "AROS/x64 users'"? ;-)


    Gee Andreas, I should have specified X64 MorphOS as I have no interest in a perpetually unfinished operating system. ;)

    And guys, Fab was pretty specific as to why further webkit based browser updates aren't going to happen on our platform, this includes Firefox, deal with it.
    The current version of OWB works.


    [ Edited by Jim 24.09.2015 - 14:21 ]
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  • »24.09.15 - 20:18
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2627 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    And guys, Fab was pretty specific as to why further webkit based browser updates aren't going to happen on our platform


    Was he really that terminal about it?

    Quote:

    this includes Firefox, deal with it.



    Isn't Firefox based on Gecko...?
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  • »24.09.15 - 21:11
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10847 from 2003/5/22
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    >>> OWB for X64 should probably be our focus now.

    >> You mean "our" as in "AROS/x64 users'"? ;-)

    > I should have specified X64 MorphOS

    As there is no x64 MorphOS, nobody can focus on OWB for x64 MorphOS now.

    > this includes Firefox

    As takemehomegrandma said, Firefox isn't WebKit-based.

    > The current version of OWB works.

    ...as do the current versions of AWeb, IBrowse and Voyager ;-)
  • »24.09.15 - 22:33
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    naTmeg
    Posts: 130 from 2004/2/8
    Firefox is just a slow, google-inspired bloatware monster these days.
  • »25.09.15 - 09:41
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