Which is better Radeon9200se or Radeon 7500 for MOS?
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Hey guys

    Looking to get the Morph gurus opinion on which is better for Peg and MOS -

    1. Powercolor Radeon 9200se 128mb

    2. ATI Radeon 7500 64mb DDR

    Any help is appreciated.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    try it with Quake3 and timedemo in high and low resolutions in 16 and 32bits :-D

    I think that for higher resolutions in 32bits colour depths R7500 may be slightly faster.

    But R9200 has twice ram and that could be interesting for MOS2.x 3D desktop :-)
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  • jPV
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    7500 is faster, but 9200se is passively cooled, if that matters :)

    I've made some tests once.. http://jpv.wmhost.com/gfxcard_test_peg1.html

    I guess with Peg2 the difference would be bigger with Q3 too.. now it seems to be limited by Peg1 cpu.

    But anyway, I'd pick up the R7500... and did :)
  • »06.07.07 - 11:47
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    Hmm... my Radeon 7500 (128MB DDR) is passively cooled.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
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    what? how can this be? the 7500 faster than 9200 ???

    I got 9250 for my G4 pegII because I though it was the fastest I could use... now it seems that actually the faster is the 7500??? (the driver is to blame surelly...)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
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    Just because the board's name has a higher number it doesnt make it faster...


    http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=303&card2=239
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    guruman
    Posts: 461 from 2003/7/22
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    keropi wrote:
    what? how can this be? the 7500 faster than 9200 ???

    I got 9250 for my G4 pegII because I though it was the fastest I could use... now it seems that actually the faster is the 7500??? (the driver is to blame surelly...)

    As magnetic said, the number doesn't relate directly with the "speed"
    of the gfx card, but more with the release date... And if the 7500 is
    faster it's not only the driver to blame, although it has to be said
    that the 9200 should have some features unseen on the 7500 in terms of
    3D acceleration - but AFAIK those features are still not supported by
    the public Rave3D drivers and TinyGL.

    Bottom line, the fastest Radeon card you can use on the Pegasos is
    the 8500 (not LE), even though 9250 is an higher number :-)

    Kind regards,
    Andrea
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
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    wow...

    the fillrate of the 8500 is actually better...
    good thing I also have a 8500 :D
    thanks!
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
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    Just in case anyone is looking we have 2 Radeon 8500 cards IN Stock!

    1. ATI Radeon 8500 128mb DVI and VGA $44.95

    2. Radeon 8500 64mb DDR w/ DVI and VGA $34.95

    If anyone is interested PM me plz
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  • jPV
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    keropi:

    I hate the ATI's naming policy :) It's just pure mess and higher number doesn't usually mean it's better. It's roughly that of Pegasos compatible cards the best is 8500... then 8500le/9100/9000... then 7500... then 92xx etc...

    And 9100 is exactly the same as 8500le. It just renamed for selling the stock :) And ATI's manufactured cards are usually faster than some clone manufacturers'. And some card had chinese made version which was slower... In any case it's better take real 128bit card than crippled 64bit version... if you can find out which is which :)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
    Posts: 641 from 2004/1/25
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    i have bought an ati sapphire radeon 9000pro with 128 megs, which was quite expensive at it's times, and it seams it was the best choice (4 years ago?). it's passively cooled, and very fast. no compromise :)

    bye, MarK.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Yeah, Radeon (ATI) 8500s are the best you can get for the moment... And quite cheap on ebay, BTW.

    As for other manufacturers, well, it is not uncommon for them to save some copper by not connecting all the bus lines (same applies to ATI or nVidia, for the matter).

    When I've bought my last graphics card for my PC, I had to go "shopping" with a printed list of benchmarks. Lovely, isn't it? The seller tells you "No, I don't have the ATI XXX, I have the nVidia YYY which is better and barely more expensive; you look it up in the list (which was 5 pages in my case), and then... It took me longer than it takes my sister to buy a new dress (which is considered in 34 nations to be a slowness standard ;-))!
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