Large HDDs (160+ GB) with Debian and Pegasos I
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ironfist
    Posts: 254 from 2004/4/22
    From: Pegasos.org
    Hi,
    I am wondering if large disks (above 137GB) works with the Pegasos I
    in Debian. I need to put my left-over Pegasos I (April2) in use since
    I bought my Pegasos II-G4. It will be used as desktop (using KVM) aswell
    sharing the large disk in this network.

    The 200GB WD disks only cost 1100 SEK at the moment, 300 more than a
    120GB drive. What about 250GB disks?

    So, I need to know if also the Pegasos has problems with LBA48 as the
    Intel-world does.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ironfist
    Posts: 254 from 2004/4/22
    From: Pegasos.org
    Seriously? Noone every tried larger disks than 120GB
    in their Pegasos?
  • »15.08.04 - 09:04
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    Trizt
    Posts: 17 from 2003/6/1
    There shouldn't be any problems with a larger harddrive, linux itself does support 2TB and as Pegasos works well with 120GB harddrives, there aren't anything that talks agains a 160Gb or larger harddrive for that matter.

    I do have only a 120GB in mine and it seems to work really well.
    You can always try and tell us if it don't work.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    pegasosuser
    Posts: 138 from 2004/4/9
    From: The Netherlands
    I have a Maxtor ATA133 160Gb 7200rpm 8Mb-Cache works fine no problem!

    I brought MorphOS1.4.2 and Linux

    Greetings Cor van Londen.


    [ Edited by pegasosuser on 2004/8/15 10:57 ]
    PEGASOSII G4@1Ghz Registered MorphOS2.5 & AmigaOS4.1 1024DDRam ATI RADEON9250-256Mb(128Bit) Creatieve Soundblaster Live! 2 x HD MAXTOR U-ATA133 160Gb 8Mb-Cache Plextor DVDR +- RW 708A 2Mb Buffer ONLY PEGASOS MAKE IT POSSIBLE!
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ironfist
    Posts: 254 from 2004/4/22
    From: Pegasos.org
    Trizt: Well, since drives larger than 137GB doesn't work on the
    AmigaONE/OS4 it would not surprise me at all if it didn't work
    for us either.


    Pegasosuser: Thank you very much! I will give it a try.
  • »15.08.04 - 11:03
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    gunne
    Posts: 441 from 2003/2/26
    From: Sweden
    Hi ironfist

    The AmigaOne and the Pegasos is not the same thing :-)

    However Im not using such big harddrives myself, so haven't investigated in what kind of problem could occur, but haven't heard of any limitations with the Pegasos.

    I could eventually think of that to big partitions eventually could cause problems with FFS in MorphOS, but not the size of the harddrive initself. Dont know how about in Linux, perhaps best to have a look into different filesystems as well.

    Gunne


    [ Edited by gunne on 2004/8/15 12:26 ]
    Best wishes, Gunne
  • »15.08.04 - 11:24
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 874 from 2003/3/4
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    I don't have any problems with a 160GB drive (really 149GB) and Linux. Its MorphOS that has the problems...
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    dholm
    Posts: 296 from 2003/9/1
    From: Malmo, Sweden
    A friend of mine bought a 160GB drive for his Pentium 4. Windows XP can only access the first 100GB of it whereas Linux has no problem using all 160GB. This sounds like a software problem to me and as such I would assume that a Pegasos running Linux wouldn't have any problems accessing a standard drive no matter what size it is.

    You really should stop comparing the Pegasos with your windows box :)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ironfist
    Posts: 254 from 2004/4/22
    From: Pegasos.org
    dholm:
    Haha! Well. The rather recent Windows-machines of today that still only has ATA100
    (earlier EPIAs, my AthlonXP-machine etc) are limited to 137GB.
    The ATA133 was not only just a speed "upgrade" but also a way to bypass this limit.

    Therefore I have always believed (until proven otherwise) that all ATA100 controllers
    have this limit. But as it seems to be software, or maybe BIOS, wise I won't
    worry anymore.

    Thanks to all who replied.
  • »16.08.04 - 15:35
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    So what problems has MorphOS with 160GB or more HDD? Im very interested about this since I will upgrade it with some bigger HDD...
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    pegasosuser
    Posts: 138 from 2004/4/9
    From: The Netherlands
    I have build a other Maxtor HD I have now a totaal of 320Gb and works
    good!

    ONLY PEGASOS MAKE IT POSIBLE!

    greetings Cor van Londen.
    PEGASOSII G4@1Ghz Registered MorphOS2.5 & AmigaOS4.1 1024DDRam ATI RADEON9250-256Mb(128Bit) Creatieve Soundblaster Live! 2 x HD MAXTOR U-ATA133 160Gb 8Mb-Cache Plextor DVDR +- RW 708A 2Mb Buffer ONLY PEGASOS MAKE IT POSSIBLE!
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ironfist
    Posts: 254 from 2004/4/22
    From: Pegasos.org
    Jepp! I bought my 200GB WD disk and it runs just
    fine under Debian. Currently installing!

    There were no issues - what-so-ever - neither with
    Debian nor Open Firmware.

    Rawks!
  • »22.08.04 - 21:58
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    Black_Eagle
    Posts: 70 from 2003/6/5
    From: Karlstad, Sweden
    You can read about the size limit on Maxtor's home page. They are the ones who made the 48-bit solution that is now standard for new large HDDs.

    Maxtor info about >137GB drives

    ATA133 was the first controller to support it, but there are some newer ATA100 controllers that has support for LBA 48-bit as well.

    [ Edited by Black_Eagle on 2004/8/23 9:35 ]
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  • »23.08.04 - 08:28
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    ChaoZer
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/4
    @dholm:

    That should be 130GB max actually.... You have to enable 48bit LBA support in the registry of XP/2000 to be able to see big disks... And it's not enabled by default. :)

    [ Edited by ChaoZer on 2004/8/23 16:03 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    All people talking about linux and PCs, but what about MorphOS? It has
    problems with 160+ GB HDD? Please explain it...
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi!
    About a week ago I bought an additional 160GB HD
    (1st is 120 GB). Both work GREAT on
    MOS(Peg1)....
    bye
    frostwork
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
    From: Hungary
    Well, but then why does not work the Seagate 200GB HDD on MorphOS for me? It always crashes when I try to access the over 137GB part of the disk with DOpus or 'copy' command. But it's still working with Ambient (but it's IMO a little bit slower and uses more CPU). The disk is formatted with SFS. (I have tried FFS too: if I format the partition in FFS, MOS stops booting at all...)

    Please help me!
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    catohagen
    Posts: 297 from 2003/5/20
    i currently have 2 seagate 200gb hd's in my
    pegasos, so guess it works :-)
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    Which version of SFS do you use? (Or not SFS?) How many and how big partitions do you have? Have you ever tried to write above the 137GB border? With which program?

    What max transfer and mask type do you use?

    [ Edited by GK_LKA on 2005/1/20 19:25 ]
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  • »20.01.05 - 18:14
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 10 from 2003/2/24
    Hi,

    very interesting discussion. Again I wish we
    would have a central bug-database for MorphOS.

    Status here: 160G Samsung HD on PegasosII,
    dh2 with sfs has very strange problems,
    sfscheck does not find an errors, but
    often when using the partition the
    corresponding task just stalls.

    dh2 is located at (Parted)
    Start 67507.879 Stop 137623.599

    All other partitions seem to work fine. Last
    one is ext3 anyway and using the rest of the
    hd space.
    Bye!
  • »21.01.05 - 12:54
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    Sounds like the same as at me. So does MOS have trouble with big hard disks?

    Maybe have I wrong maxtransfer/mask/block size? (0xffffff/0xfffffffe/512)
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  • »21.01.05 - 16:05
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