Amiga HD on MOS?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Elektro
    Posts: 202 from 2004/2/3
    MorphOS can read HDs formatted with Amiga?
    For example if I have an hd with wb3.1 installed...can i put it on Pegasos and use it?
    Tnx
  • »23.03.04 - 09:04
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    Yes, can read it, including PFS3, because the naturity of the amiga format allows put the fs and can access to it for can read the partition the OS directly...
    But you will can't run wb3.1 on Pegasos, unless you use UAE...
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Hmm, I recall that I read somewhere that Elena run Workbench3.1 instead of Ambient? I could be wrong about that, thoguh. That is of course unsupported and would probably require som "hacks" and is perhaps not very easey for a beginner. It could also mean problems with newer versions of MorphOS, I don't know ...
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    itix
    Posts: 1516 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    Must be Workbench 3.5/3.9, running Workbench 3.1 would be just stupid. (I think two last versions got new features not available in Ambient.)
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
  • »23.03.04 - 11:12
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    itix
    Posts: 1516 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    Sure you can. Make sure device or partition names are not clashing and MorphOS partition should have higher boot priority than Amiga HD.
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
  • »23.03.04 - 11:14
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Elektro
    Posts: 202 from 2004/2/3
    And...what about Floppy?
  • »23.03.04 - 13:21
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    The only way I know of to read Amiga floppies would be by using a Catweasel MKIII Flipper. That is a product from Individual Computers, and you can read about it here:

    http://ami.ga/indexe.htm (click on "products")
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Paochi
    Posts: 136 from 2004/3/23
    From: Italy
    My experience.
    My Hd was directly taken from my old PPC a1200 (a 20Gb IDE Samsung).
    Mos mounted all partitions (pfs too :D) perfectly.
    Than, wih SCSIconfig, I formatted my old Linux and MacOs partitions to be used with MOS (one little ffs for the boot.img and the other SFS to test SFS natiive speed).
    Actually (while I finish to install again all software I nneed) I'm using a lot of old software installed on those partitions and all go really well.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    I actually have a Catweasel MKIII brand new in the box for sale for $90 Us dollars

    Also have nice LSI Logic UWSCSi Controllers in stock for pegasos pci! up to 80/mbs and can take Amiga scsi drives for file transfer :) I used it to get files off my A4000T Scsi2 hds..

    only $39.95

    $11 shipping air mail international

    $5 shippping USA


    magnetic :-o
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    Quad Boot: MorphOS 2.7 | Amiga OS4.1 U4 | Ubuntu PPC GNU/Linux | OS X 10.4
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    Another way to "see" amiga floppies on a Pegasos is to use a network. Don't know how much a catweasel is (although I know it is a great piece of h/w with far more capabilities than just reading floppies), but there are all kinds of networking software solutions.
    :idea:Targhan

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  • »23.03.04 - 19:33
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    Hi takemehomegrandma,

    > Hmm, I recall that I read somewhere that Elena run Workbench3.1 instead of Ambient?

    Elena uses Workbench 3.9 (and only it, not AmigaOS, but only Workbench instead of Ambient). Why? Because Ambient is still less powerfull and configurable than Workbench (it's enough to think at the Deficons iussue..). Many people like me uses Opus Magellan instead.

    > I could be wrong about that, thoguh. That is of course unsupported and would probably require som "hacks" and is perhaps not very easey for a beginner.

    I used it for a while in the past and it works perfectly stable (and really fast), moreover now with PowerIcons you can also continue to use 24bit PNG icons. It's not so hard to installa and use Workbench, on elena site there is a guide that teach you to do it.

    Obviously this is not an 'official' solution neighter the right way to have a decent desktop. MOS team should give us a modern and powerfull desktop, at least at Workbench or better Magellan levels and we all hope this will happen not too far in the future. If many people still uses Magellan or the Workbench instead of Ambient this means that that day is still not arrived.

    PegasosII "Elite" Machine --> PowerMac MDD "popular" Machine --> MacMini 1.5 "still more popular" Machine
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Aaron
    Posts: 127 from 2003/6/14
    From: Tucson, AZ
    Miky060,

    I didn't know PowerIcons worked with Magellan.

    You are right. Ambient hasn't reached the level of a Megellan
    Workbench, but MOS is still very young and I know it will get there
    someday.

    In the meantime, I made lemonade. I got good at using the shell
    again. I felt for some time the Magellan made me a bit lazy.

    --Aaron Diezman
    --Aaron Diezman
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MorphDelf
    Posts: 274 from 2004/2/20
    From: Oslo, Norway
    Heh,..

    I have Magellan on disks ;p and another thing. Magellan dosen't support disk partitions higher than 4gb, then the numbers just go crazy ;p

    But I remember, when I was at AmiGBG last year. The Amiga event in Sweden. Genesi was there showing of Birdieshoot and such.

    Then Ambient had Dopus functions built into the system. You could also make tabs out of the different windows. The listers weren't as perfect as the Magellan one, but it kinda worked.

    Why isn't that functionality with MorphOS v1.4 today?

    Was it to buggy?

    Regards,
    Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    DethKnight
    Posts: 139 from 2003/6/24
    From: Central USA
    After careful review of what "Opus Magellan" actually was, (sorry I live under a rock)

    Im sad to say I was left out of very productive possibilities for my workbench.

    http://www.gpsoft.com.au/magellan/magellan.html

    Too bad GP doesnt code/consult features for ambient
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  • »09.04.04 - 17:51
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  • JKD
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    JKD
    Posts: 456 from 2003/4/4
    From: South of heaven
    I bought Catweasel at Amiwest 2003...show special was $99 I think..or maybe $129.

    Figured it was the least I could do based on the distance Jens travelled.

    The MOS drivers sorely need updating though - seemed to work fine on 1.3 but would hang on 1.4 frequently.

    Still a great way to read Amiga formatted disks.

    Steve

    OH and I forgot to mention it had a cool blue PCB :-D
  • »09.04.04 - 18:11
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  • JKD
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    JKD
    Posts: 456 from 2003/4/4
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    Hi mag,
    which SCSI chipset is on those cards?

    Are they single UW interface or do they have a terminated bridge to 50pin Ultra? (Yes I realize an older device on a single bus might slow a newer drive down a little.)

    Cheers,

    Steve
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    JKD
    Its Symbios 895 chipset.. Works perfectly with MOS and Linux on Peg...

    :-D

    It has 1 68pin UWSCSI internal and 1 external uwscsi
    Pegasos 2 Rev 2B3 w/ Freescale 7447 "G4" @ 1ghz / 1gb Nanya Ram
    Quad Boot: MorphOS 2.7 | Amiga OS4.1 U4 | Ubuntu PPC GNU/Linux | OS X 10.4
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