Hello all,

i see source code of Ignition on Aminet. Thanks to the author for this share!

Any possibility to port it on MorphOS? Easy or not?

Maybe a bounty?

I think this is not necessary since Carsten is developing MicroExcel:

https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=2156141

I have tested it a lot and although it's not completely perfect, it has become very powerful and better over the last versions.
I will write a review after holidays.

@Primax: There is possibility to do multiselection of cells with MicroExcel? Unfortunaly i have a lot of difficulties to use it as spreadsheet... But maybe i could try more...

And unfortunately Carsten's software is always unstable... this one crashes immediately when I try to move to a next cell with the Tab key.

Blast from the past....


Way back when it was open sourced I did manage to get to compile on 68k, only to find out that the original author had forgotten to include the sources for some BOOPSI classes.

That was fixed a year later, but I never got back to it.

The OS4 version came along and AFAIK it has matured a lot.

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Are you sure you tested the latest version? Since this was a bug in the previous version.

As I said, it is not perfect. But as often I reported a bug or some strange behaviour to Carsten, he had a look at it and mostly fixed it.
What else can we expect nowadays?

Developers, as you know yourself, need feedback!

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MicroExel 2.1 from 18-Jun-24. I haven't tried any of the previous versions, but only this one. And it is a reproducible crash.


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Yeah, but I think we should also have some responsibility to test our programs a bit before letting them into the wild and potentially damage users' systems/data :) I shouldn't complain about other products normally, but as this seems to be a pattern here. Every program I've tested from Carsten has crashed quite immediately here, so I haven't been able to use them in practise... but I admit that it hasn't encouraged me to test everything he's released lately, so maybe the situation is better nowadays.. although it hitted immediately again when I tried a simple action.

Fun Part is that Axel Dörfler, who created Ignition was a member of the Amiga Club Osnabrück and tested his stuff on MorphOS 1.4.5 back in the day during our meetings and showed its progress.

Not sure I he had a MorphOS system back then.

MicroExcel looks promising if he continues to hammer away at updates. As it stands now, it is just to far off from a stability and functionality standpoint to use. I was hoping that it would be one of the final programs to round out MorphOS as a productivity dream. For now I still use TurboCalc, it's ok but it does toss errors into the log when using it and it lacks a polished experience.

Be cool to see if Ignition would be something for MorphOS.

Does anyone know if we will ever see a Final Writer version for MorphOS?

My 3 MorphOS gotos are Iris, PolyOrga, and PageStream. Use them all daily.
Iris is extremely good with calendar invites now and PolyOrga just added drag from the search window. They both are heavily developed. PageStream was due I thought with an update at somepoint...

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Have you heard how the new version works on A600GS? It's said to be bundled on those, but I haven't seen any comments about it... I'm under impression that those devices are being sold now?

By the way should Carsten finally get this bounty?

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Yes, it's a good idea.

About Ignition, i try to compile it but i have this message:

No rule to make target 'stubs-morphos.o', needed by 'Ignition'. Stop

This file is not present in OBJS/ drawer...
Any ideas please?

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Sounds like some Makefile magic that generates an OS specific file.

Scan the makefile and check if and how a 'stubs-amigaos.o' or similar is made or if it part of their SDK.

If that doesn't help remove all references to it and if it compiles you would get a bunch of linker errors pointing you to what is really missing.

It might just those BOOPSI classes getting routed through some amiga.lib like layer which shouldn't be necessary if you have the right includes calling them directly as libraries.

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There is no 'stubs-amigaos.o' or similar...

I have created a public repository on my github. If some developers want to help to port it don't hesitate to contact me, i will add you to the repository.

https://github.com/papiosaur/Ignition-for-MorphOS

Indeed, there's not hint about stubs-morphos.o at all.
Compile without this object file and at the end the linker will tell you the missing functions...

Seems need some includes like textedit/include/gadget/TextEdit.h but don't exist in the package.

Must i install them from SDK for AmigaOS3 or change name to a similar and specific include from MorphOS SDK?

Thanks for your help

They are in the package but they are not found by the compiler. You need to -I to them.
Once you have done It seems that the cybergraphics library include is called with different name.

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Thanks for the info

If somebody want i add him to this project, don't hesitate

Had a look into the package and I'd guess that the generic makefile is long obsolete and either Makefile.OS4 or MakefileOSreaction are used to build working binaries.

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Right! Thanks for the info!

There are first modifications:

- renamed MakeFile.OS4 to Makefile.MOS
- added gtdrag 68k from version 1.10 because not available in 1.30

I see a problem with this in the makefile

lib/safeclip/generic/safeclip.o: lib/safeclip/generic/safeclip.c

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@tolkien:
lib/safeclip uploaded from Ignition 1.10 sources
Thanks for the info!

[EDIT] Is it possible to generate a specific Makefile for MorphOS from Ignition OS4 source code? Just a silly question

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Could be stubs for gtdrag.library? How can stubs for 68k libs be generated for MorphOS? FD2pragma?

Don't think stubs should be the way to go.

The name "FD2pragma" suggests that it will create SAS-C specific pragma files.

On MorphOS you should use cvinclude.pl to build all needed headers including inlines.

Look into SDK:examples/libraries to get some hints about it's usage.

[ Edited by Kronos 21.07.2024 - 11:58 ]

Didnt know about cvinclude.pl. Fantastic tool!
I have a compilable version but no working one.
Problem is Im not a coder and I have touched a lot of files and not always knowing what Im doing XD
Will try doing it slowly and perhaps better from the start.