2021 - Your expectations
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2673 from 2003/2/24
    As a follow-up on the "2020 - your expectations" thread of last year, what's your expectations for the MorphOS world *this* upcoming year?

    IMHO a safe bet would be a Wayfarer with media playback capabilities.

    I'm also hoping for a new major (non-bugfix) release of MorphOS itself.

    I would also repeat my wishes from last year about my hopes for support of a *modern* GFX card, as well as more info on any work (or even better: reports of actual progress) towards migration of MorphOS to AMD64.

    :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1013 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    A revised and more useable version of Folio from André Siegel would be great to have.

    Also, SCANdal fixed so it doesn't "block" the USB mechanism when a scanner is unplugged, and fixed so that you can use an Epson 1640SU scanner with it, as currently with Apple hardware since v3.7, though it might be v3.11 as the last useable release, of the SCANdal thread - specifically comments by several users including Amigaharry2 when using it with MorphOS, as it seems there is a communication error bug, or some other bug, that has crept in that stops it working/functioning, so currently you have to load/boot up from an earlier MorphOSBoot CD to be able to use SCANdal v1.6 as a working application with MorphOS, all of which has needed fixing for longer than we should have had to wait for, realistically IMHO.

    Better, improved functionality and hardware support for USB isochronous audio in the MorphOS implementation.

    An update to, or replacement for, the astronomy application Stellarium, as that's not seen any update for years now it seems.

    An office suite/set of applications to allow other ubiquitous OS file formats to be directly read, edited and saved.

    Not forgetting a revitalised/fixed version of PageStream 5 for Amiga/MorphOS with all the bugs "exterminated" and firing on all 5 cylinders/versions.

    [UPDATE] - Christoph(e) Poelzl aka rms has just updated the "Looking for an MUI programmer", message from Deron K. (PageStream 5 for MorphOS)" thread on MorphZone with links to images you can view of screengrabs of PageStream version 5 for MorphOS that is actively being developed by Deron Kazmaier, and currently being beta tested by rms, which is the best news outside of direct MorphOS development that I know of for this year. 8-D
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    esc
    Posts: 149 from 2013/5/28
    My pie-in-the-sky would be a single-GPU solution to be able to run, maximally, MorphOS and AOS4.1FE on my X5000 without sacrificing any performance or anything on either side.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    ppcamiga1
    Posts: 208 from 2015/8/23
    Morphos released as open source.
    And let everybody use it on any hardware they wanted.
  • »28.12.20 - 07:52
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1013 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    esc wrote: My pie-in-the-sky would be a single-GPU solution to be able to run, maximally, MorphOS and AOS4.1FE on my X5000 without sacrificing any performance or anything on either side.

    The only way for many tower cased Apple hardware systems that are MorphOS capable to implement PCI-e GFX capabilities similar to the X5000 would be to implement the capability of a PCI to PCIe, adapter, the one shown is made by Startech but if there are any other similar products then of course those too, for GFX card or for other PCIe card use, and use a low-profile more modern PCI-e GFX card with it, though bandwidth might be a problem for a standard PCI slot, even if it's a 66MHz slot.

    Without MorphOS capable hardware being able to utilise the GFX cards that Amiga OS4.1FE can use then I don't see the MorphOS Dev. Team spending much time on this topic for hardware that was originally only intended for Amiga OS4.x use.
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  • »28.12.20 - 08:19
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1013 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    ppcamiga1 wrote: Morphos released as open source. And let everybody use it on any hardware they wanted.

    I think that's really a good id. . . . . . oh! wait, . . . . I think I saw a pig flying over my home just then! :-o
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  • »28.12.20 - 08:24
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2014 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    Quote:

    esc wrote: My pie-in-the-sky would be a single-GPU solution to be able to run, maximally, MorphOS and AOS4.1FE on my X5000 without sacrificing any performance or anything on either side.

    The only way for many tower cased Apple hardware systems that are MorphOS capable to implement PCI-e GFX capabilities similar to the X5000 would be to implement the capability of a PCI to PCIe, adapter,......


    Sounds like a solution in search for a problem.....


    More PCIe-cards will be supported if/when:
    - Frank is bored
    - MorphOS-AMD takes off
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  • »28.12.20 - 08:39
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1013 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:The only way for many tower cased Apple hardware systems that are MorphOS capable to implement PCI-e GFX capabilities similar to the X5000 would be to implement the capability of a PCI to PCIe, adapter,......

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    Kronos wrote: Sounds like a solution in search for a problem.....
    More PCIe-cards will be supported if/when:
    - Frank is bored
    - MorphOS-AMD takes off

    Which was the point I was trying to make, but is possible to implement in older systems that only have PCI slots, not that I'm expecting this to be adopted, but ACube have just implemented this for Sam440ep-Flex OS4.1FE systems to allow for later PCI-e cards as PCI GFX cards are now becoming so hard to source as new or working replacements, which may become the situation for systems we use, such as the BlizzardPPC/Mediator PCI slots that use a Radeon based PCI card. I know my PowerMac G5 has a 66MHz PCI slot that I can use for Radeon PCI GFX cards and I did try a 9200 based card in that when I first got it working, but it now has an Apple 9600 PCI-X GFX card in it which works faster and has more GFX RAM than the 9200 based card I initially tried.
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  • »28.12.20 - 09:23
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  • Jim
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Jim
    Posts: 4934 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Official support of PCIE G5s.

    Better wireless support.

    3D and overlay support for later video cards l.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »28.12.20 - 09:37
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    tolkien
    Posts: 372 from 2013/5/29
    I think in "easy" stuff like:

    -sdk (I know it is in the works).

    -New version of FlowStudio with better debugger usage.

    -MorphOS version with improved gfx cards support.

    -Wayfarer with integrated media support.

    But I will be happy with any update or new program for this great OS.
    PowerMac G5 - PowerBook G4 - MacMini with MorphOS. Amiga 1200/060 AmigaOS 3.x
  • »28.12.20 - 09:43
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  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    Posts: 50 from 2020/5/1
    DRM-support for Spotify webplayer in Wayfarer.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    polluks
    Posts: 583 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    MorphOS-ARM :-P
    Pegasos II G4: MorphOS 3.9, Zalman M220W · iMac G5 12,1
    Power Mac G3: OSX 10.3 · PowerBook 5,8: OSX 10.5, MorphOS 3.15
  • »28.12.20 - 11:28
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    eliot
    Posts: 533 from 2004/4/15
    My wishes for next year:
    - sdk and script to set it up on linux for cross compilation
    - gl shader support
    - amd64 (ok, this won't happen)
    regards
    eliot
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Posts: 118 from 2017/8/6
    I am with the G5 supporters, possibly multicore. More important would be support for more PCIe gfx cards tho.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 793 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    - a real useable office-package like Open Office (ok, that's more a dream.....)
    - modern Email-client and Browser seems to come true 2021 with Iris and Wayfarer
    - a workaround for Poseidon to be stable and do not crash stick when copying many small files
    - a workaround for ICE-FS to be more stable

    Something selfish:
    - Support of RS232 and 2nd-IDE-Channel on EFIKA
    - developement to 64Bit-MOS useing both CPUs on G5
    - a roadmap to switch to more modern and cheaper new hardware in the next few years
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Everblue
    Posts: 164 from 2004/1/6
    MorphOS port to a machine I can buy affordable and new, so ARM or x64 will do.
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  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    Flash
    Posts: 51 from 2019/11/1
    Just few things for me.. :-)

    Official support for PowerMAC Quad G5 pci-e 11.2 late 2005
    Full OS4 API compatibility
    SMP implementation for powerpc cpus
    Better OpenGL and SDL (official) compatibility
    Better GFX card support at least until Radeon GCN3
    Raptor Blackbird Power9 and AMD x64 boards support
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  • Jim
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Jim
    Posts: 4934 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    @ Flash, good list.

    And guys, I believe there are about three developers working on graphics.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1088 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    MorphOS backported to 68k so it'll run on UAE. :)
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.9

    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, OSX 10.5.8, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2673 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    @ Flash, good list.

    And guys, I believe there are about three developers working on graphics.


    Currently or in the past?
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    esc
    Posts: 149 from 2013/5/28
    Oh, forgot one that I’d really love to see:

    - Rolling upgrades/updates
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2019/10/15
    Class compliant USB driver for audio interfaces. ( This is more of wish than anything else, but most newer USB interfaces are Class complaint ), so one driver should work for all. )

    [ Edited by MoerBoer 28.12.2020 - 20:35 ]
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2269 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    duga wrote:
    DRM-support for Spotify webplayer in Wayfarer.


    Sure, that's no problem. Insert 20000 USD here and we can get it done.

    You need to have an entity (ie company) which can enter a legal agreement with Google to implement and certify Widevine DRM.

    I've previously worked on Playready DRM, Widevine DRM and Irdeto integrations with Windows / iOS / Android / Web clients and a server backend. It would be no problem to add Widevine support to MorphOS from a purely programming point of view.

    It all comes down to money & politics.

    [ Edited by jacadcaps 28.12.2020 - 22:48 ]
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  • Just looking around
    wicknix
    Posts: 12 from 2020/12/1
    From: Wisconsin, USA
    Being a newer user there isn't much else i'd like to see for my basic needs except for a few small things.

    1) A current build of ffmpeg/ffplay/ffprobe with zlib enabled for twitch.tv stream ability.
    2) The updated SDK so i can start porting stuff.
    3) An updated bitlbee so i can use discord via an irc client without the need for an external public server.

    As i mentioned in another thread, i'm willing to paypal $50 USD to anyone who can whip up a new ffmpeg/ffplay with zlib support.

    Cheers
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11219 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> My pie-in-the-sky would be a single-GPU solution to be able
    >> to run, maximally, MorphOS and AOS4.1FE on my X5000
    >> without sacrificing any performance or anything on either side.

    > Without MorphOS capable hardware being able to utilise the
    > GFX cards that Amiga OS4.1FE can use then I don't see the
    > MorphOS Dev. Team spending much time on this topic for
    > hardware that was originally only intended for Amiga OS4.x use.

    The A-Eon CyrusPlus/X5000 and the ACube Sam460 are MorphOS-capable hardware and are, of course, able to utilise the graphics cards that OS4 can use. I don't see how the fact that both were originally intended for OS4 use has any bearing on this. If supported by MorphOS, GCN1 or GCN4 cards as supported by OS4 (via A-Eon's drivers) would probably even be usable in PCIe-based G5 PowerMacs.
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