Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
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    Nadir
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    jacadcaps wrote:
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    StyleGuide - Is there a written, some kind of official style guide? I never heard of.



    There's some old obscure document by CBM about this somewhere... ;) The '...' in menus is supposed to be used if the menu action leads to opening a new window (be it requester or a new application window - does not matter).



    As far as I remember that document (can't find it atm), it's not about opening a window or not. Basically, if any additional user action is needed/expected after selecting the menu item then there should be a '...'
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    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2015/3/31
    Still playing with GPS (for Mapparium)

    The testprogram became a own little tool to test GPS and record Tracks.So I put this to public as well.

    GPSTool got a first official Release 1.0

    more informations:

    http://blog.alb42.de/2016/09/11/gpstool/

    P.S. Yeah I know the name is stupid and so on.. but it's just a test/debug tool for me ;-)
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    connor
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    GP Stool :-D
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    connor
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    But yes, the name is already taken: https://github.com/oriontransfer/GPSTool .

    So maybe "Grand Pa Stool", "Grand Prix Stool", "Green Pink Stool" or "Garlic Power Stool"? ;-)
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    pegasos-sigi2
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    New Version: MUIMapparium 0.2

    https://blog.alb42.de/2017/05/01/muimapparium-0-2/


    A Idea:
    Before it was too complex; is it possible to make a public MUI Class from Mapparium ?
    Such a nice class can include in some usable other progs.
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    r-tea
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    pegasos-sigi2 wrote:
    A Idea:
    Before it was too complex; is it possible to make a public MUI Class from Mapparium ?
    Such a nice class can include in some usable other progs.



    I support your request.

    I miss draggable screens... and do you? I know I'm in a minority unfortunately.
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    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2015/3/31
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    pegasos-sigi2 wrote:
    Before it was too complex; is it possible to make a public MUI Class from Mapparium ?
    Such a nice class can include in some usable other progs.



    Indeed a nice idea and I would like to do such things, but sadly currently that is not possible, freepascal does not support creation of (amiga) libraries currently. I have no idea how such things could be done. I do not know the MorphOS side, neither the FreePascal side. I only used the dll creation at windows until now.
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2440 from 2006/3/21
    From: Lake Shastina,...
    Are map data files compatible with this program available for all parts of the most populated areas of the world for free download? In other words, can I find and freely download data files for North America, Central America, and South America, for use in Mapparium?

    If yes, are the data files kept up to date often, for street changes and construction projects? Does Mapparium accept GPS data input to show your current location, if you are able to run it from a mobile device in your car?
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9218 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > can I find and freely download data files for North America, Central America,
    > and South America, for use in Mapparium?

    As the title of this thread suggests, Mapparium uses OpenStreetMap. And yes, you can freely download OpenStreetMap data. I'm not sure how to tell Mapparium to use local data instead of downloading data on the fly, though.

    > are the data files kept up to date often, for street changes and construction projects?

    "New entries or changes appear within minutes on the map. The possible speed of this update process makes OSM much better to all other competitors. So new buildings, constructions, blocked roads etc. can be immediately visualized. NGOs use OpenStreetMap in areas that were hit by disasters to plan their arrivals after earthquakes, burning forests, landslips or other cataclysm."
    http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Press_Kit#up_to_date
  • »03.05.17 - 13:24
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2015/3/31
    Tiny misunderstanding, what Mapparium (and MUIMapparium) does. It renders the tiles online (in the Cloud, SCNR) and only download the ready to use tiles as images from the server. Therefore it only works when you are connected to the Internet, no download possible.
    The tile server I'm using is free but forbids bulk downloads of large areas and demand that the tiles are cached on the Client Hard disk (for at least 7 days). Mapparium cache has no timeout currently, it just cache forever, but you can clear it using the Button in Prefs (good to define a min zoom Level which should stay. The Low zoom levels never really change.) SO in principle for offline use you can just look at the areas when you are online and the tiles get cached to the HD, these parts are available in Offline mode as well.

    The AltiVec question is already answered I guess, in fact I have no knowledge about such stuff (never programmed/used PowerPC before) I'm not sure, if AltiVec would help at all, (at least on my Mac Mini) the Map feels very snappy and smooth so already "fast enough" whatever that means ;-)

    Thanks for the localization offer, currently MUIMapparium has no locale.library support, but I plan to change that. I never worked with locale.library I have to learn how to do that (in FreePascal). But when included I would be happy someone try to make a translation.

    About GPS: MUIMapparium supports the most common Formats for loading Tracks from your favorite GPS if not just tell me the format maybe I can include that. GPX works best and is the native format for MUIMapparium. Direct support for GPS devices is planed (until now it's a separated program, GPSTool, see earlier in the Thread).

    The AREXX port is not activated currently in MUIMapparium, so your tools mentions earlier will not work with MUIMapparium currently, but I will include that again, with the same commands and footprints.

    One personal side note:

    For me it's very interesting how different every Amiga style OS community react on such a "new" program, I noticed already for other stuff I published and happened for Mapparium/MUIMapparium as well.
    AROS: barely any downloads or feedback and if just some "thanks"
    Classic: many downloads and quite a number of "thanks"
    OS4: some downloads and some rather strange feedback, mainly complains about "nothing", some destructive critics
    MorphOS: many Downloads and a lot of wishes/new ideas and constructive critics

    All together MorphOS community: you are awesome ;-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9218 from 2003/5/22
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    >> you can freely download OpenStreetMap data. I'm not sure how to tell
    >> Mapparium to use local data instead of downloading data on the fly, though.

    > Tiny misunderstanding, what Mapparium (and MUIMapparium) does. It
    > renders the tiles online (in the Cloud, SCNR) and only download
    > the ready to use tiles as images from the server. Therefore it only
    > works when you are connected to the Internet, no download possible.

    Thanks for clarification. I now remember I read your explanation of how your program works with map data before somewhere else, but apparently forgot about it :-)
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    polluks
    Posts: 290 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    If you use Reggae instead of TFPReaderPNG you may use AltiVec indirectly.

    [ Editiert durch polluks 06.05.2017 - 00:34 ]
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  • »05.05.17 - 23:29
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    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2015/3/31
    yeah polluks, but if I using Reggae it will not work for the other Amiga systems anymore. MUIMapparium only have very little platform dependent code, basically only the Color setting for RastPort ;-)
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    Posts: 241 from 2006/8/31
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    ALB42 wrote:
    yeah polluks, but if I using Reggae it will not work for the other Amiga systems anymore. MUIMapparium only have very little platform dependent code, basically only the Color setting for RastPort ;-)


    Is it possible to include my little tool to read the geotags from Jpeg's ?
    It needs exif support.
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    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2015/3/31
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    pegasos-sigi2 wrote:

    Is it possible to include my little tool to read the geotags from Jpeg's ?
    It needs exif support.





    Post #65 tl;dr? hehe

    especially for you a little citation:

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    The AREXX port is not activated currently in MUIMapparium, so your tools mentions earlier will not work with MUIMapparium currently, but I will include that again, with the same commands and footprints.


    (don't take too serious)
  • »06.05.17 - 16:08
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    polluks
    Posts: 290 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
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    jacadcaps schrieb:
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    ALB42 wrote:
    StyleGuide - Is there a written, some kind of official style guide? I never heard of.



    There's some old obscure document by CBM about this somewhere... ;) The '...' in menus is supposed to be used if the menu action leads to opening a new window (be it requester or a new application window - does not matter).



    Well, read more about modal windows.
    For example, a new tab is not a new window, so no ellipsis.

    What happens if you have no style guide? Press nowadays Amiga-P for printing...
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  • »06.05.17 - 17:24
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    Butterfly
    Posts: 76 from 2015/3/31
    New Version MUIMapparium 0.4

    https://blog.alb42.de/2017/05/26/muimapparium-0-4/


    • Basic Plot module for Trackcurves (Height, slope, speed)
    • Plot popupmenu, Zoom, Data Readout
    • Support for imperial units
    • in-map GUI (Zoom In/Out, Side Panel)
    • OS4 mouse wheel
    • Keybinding for map (+,-, cursor keys)
    • Bugfix: AROS disabled Edit
    • BugFix: Amiga redrawing error
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 162 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Wow, this software is progressing a lot! Thanks!
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  • »27.05.17 - 10:57
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    polluks
    Posts: 290 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    Quick test of Swiss and German mapping
    Keybinding for map (+,-, cursor keys):
    cursor keys ok
    + fail
    - fail
    num + ok
    num - fail

    By the way what's the meaning of english/MUIMapparium.catalog?


    [ Editiert durch polluks 27.05.2017 - 14:32 ]
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