Mui is over 30 years old.
Morphos use some aros components, why don't opensource mui so aros can use it?

Morphos is not progressing, why don't make morphos a plus version of aros? so maybe is possible x64, smp and others features

Make MUI opensource

There is (fake?) MUI5 that should have sources
or MUI5 m68k OS3 could be fixed to work on AROS?
https://github.com/amiga-mui/muidev/releases
https://github.com/amiga-mui

MorphOS is progressing, about the speed of AROS, but unity
of this could help. However, its chicken and egg >:D
I guess for MorphOS team ability to license and integrate maybe
some parts of AROS PPC recent could be interesting, but not what are you proposing.

However, seems Amibient GUI is floss and if MUi port could be done,
could make AROS look like MorphOS.

What makes you think AROS would be able to use it without major updates to AROS? The MorphOS developers haven't been doing nothing for the last 20 years.

And why would you want it, exactly? MUI apps will still be unable to run in AROS unless actually compiled for MUI/AROS.

As for SMP...

No.

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Dont be so bitchy, theirs is better then Sollies

Aros use zune
zune is a clone of MUI

1 source code zune + MUI for aros and morphos
Aros is now x64
https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1323&pid=6872#post_6872
Powerpc is dead and morphos don't have new hardware
Morphos don't progress in hardware compatibility

it is necessary to join forces

[ Edited by matteo 29.11.2024 - 07:47 ]

Just port Zune

Zune is useless, that's why they want a real(ish) MUI port for AROS.

1 source code zune + MUI for aros and morphos
Why 2 projects for the same target?

MUI is over 30 year's old
morphos is not progressing

They don't have the same target. MUI is a standalone GUI toolkit with its own design and purposes on the platforms its available and its developers are interested. Zune just tries to copy it to offer its functionality to some other platform.

Zune is basically replicating a very old version of MUI and doesn't offer new features that's been developed in MUI during the years. It's far from being complete too, many MUI 3.8 level features are still missing, broken, or misbehaving.

TBH, I don't know why MUI developers should/would care about Zune at all. And what does it matter when MUI was first launched (30 years ago presumable?), it's still constantly progressing and getting new improvements.

I'd say that the only option is to somehow make MUI developers interested about sharing or opening the sources to get it for AROS (just like the topic suggests), but I'm pretty sure they have zero interest to get anything from Zune itself. Just like with other AROS components that have been used, MorphOS developers had to fix quite a lot of their code... in some cases it might have been easier to write them from scratch :)

[ Edited by jPV 27.11.2024 - 15:07 ]

Opensourcing MUI will not solve Aros’ lack of active developers.

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MorphOS not progressing? That is a rather bold statement. I never counted the number of releases MorphOS has had, but I would never say that lacked progress. Lastly if you look at the apps being developed, they are screaming along way beyond anything else in Amiga land. The change logs read like books now...

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I guess there's a language barrier and he means that there's no progress in sight in hardware-wise if sticking with 32bit/PPC. I can't explain it otherwise, because MorphOS has progressed most of these Amiga related operating systems...

i confirm and i'm happy that morphos progressed more than any other's amiga os.
But for the future ppc is dead, no new hardware and even if there will be new hardware will be expensive.

Maybe to base morphos from aros x64 smp + morphos premium features that we pay.

So maybe, idea is partially open source and partially closed source.
Open source component:
mui
filesystem
pdf
icons
openssl
freetype
etc

Closed source:
premium app
premium driver
etc

Mui developer maybe are available or is possibile discuss:
read issue
mui developer

it's a bad idea?

AROS main gui library is Zune, and not some clone of reaction, in this sense AROS is more inline with MorphOS than it is with AmigaOS4, it would be a nice way to augment the pool of software for both OSs, but perhaps not valuable enough to justify MUI to be open sourced, sadly.

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The fact that you refer to these 2 as "Mui developer" says everything bout the merit of this thread.

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vpdf is already open source.

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Because MUI sources were not avail, so Zune is quite good replacement
for work done with no sources. Get it?

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True but would make MUI 3.8 and 4.x(5.x) apps usable and portable.

We need some better bounty / support system / opendocs / dev tools / how to
since HW is not issue.

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Ah my fav clown! 2 is better then 0, since this is on topic spot on.
Question is how can we aid them? I can donate if it helps :D

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Who is "they"? And I agree a MUI port to AROS might be quite an effort, not because morphos is maybe so far ahead of AROS but because for AROS it would have to be 64bit little endian etc aware. And believe me this is not an easy task.