New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Primax
    Posts: 74 from 2021/7/2
    I am the most, very most stupid man in the world....
    I cannot believe it myself...

    I was following Jacek's tip and opened Screen prefs. Okay:
    Ambient - RadeonX1650 24Bit 1920 x 1080.

    BUT: After I wanted to edit that, there were only modes for the HD5450!!! :((
    First I thought: ohhhh, there went somethong wrong. MorphOS does not correctly recognize my gfx board any longer...and the second thought was: Is the X1650 actually installed...???

    NOOO!

    Some weeks ago I did some tests with different gfx boards (HD5450, X1650, X1950 Pro/XT) and finally - please do not ask me why - I did not install again the X1650, which was the goal (watching YT videos!!!!), but the HD5450.

    So embarrassing!

    Please apologize!

    The best: Not only YT works with Wayfarer, everything is so much faster.
    MorphOS developer: PLease support more current gfx boards. It is such a difference.
    AmigaOne X5000 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon X1650 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition / MorphOS 3.17
    Amiga1200 / Blizzard 1230 IV / 128 MB RAM / AmigaOS 3.9
  • »02.02.22 - 17:43
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Is there any possibility to send data, stored during eyery session in cache/curl, to NIL: ? It generates in short time MB over MB (3 short sessions -> 50MB). And with increasing data there, start-time and close-time of Wayfahrer is going through the roof...... On G5 I have start or close times up to 5mins and more!!
    To prevent this, curl had to be deleted every 3rd, 4th session.
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »10.02.22 - 16:36
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2650 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    To prevent this, curl had to be deleted every 3rd, 4th session.


    That sounds more like an issue with your drive - either nearly full, badly fragmented or with bad sectors.
  • »10.02.22 - 18:49
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  • jPV
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    jPV
    Posts: 1884 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Is there any possibility to send data, stored during eyery session in cache/curl, to NIL: ? It generates in short time MB over MB (3 short sessions -> 50MB). And with increasing data there, start-time and close-time of Wayfahrer is going through the roof...... On G5 I have start or close times up to 5mins and more!!
    To prevent this, curl had to be deleted every 3rd, 4th session.

    Just disable the Disk Cache from the Settings (set it to 0MB).
  • »10.02.22 - 20:23
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    @jpv: Thank you!

    @jacacaps: Can see this behaviour on every MOS-machine I have. The same on Mini, all G5 and PBs, Pegasos......cannot believe that every disk is fragmented (btw.: I defragment them regulary).
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »10.02.22 - 21:42
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1238 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    @ Amigaharry2 - I suggest the same as jPV - as that's what I do, I have a minimum Curl Cache and that keeps my system more dynamic, as otherwise it ends up like you have said, struggling to cope/sift through the data to make space for new cached data, that it has to delete as it writes as it wades through what it has already written - or at least that's what it seems to be. ;-)
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.17,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5.
  • »11.02.22 - 09:42
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Yes! I've done that - it works much better now.
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »11.02.22 - 17:26
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 5 from 2021/10/6
    please fix something so you can write applications in html5 in electron
  • »11.02.22 - 22:14
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 5 from 2021/10/6
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    To prevent this, curl had to be deleted every 3rd, 4th session.


    That sounds more like an issue with your drive - either nearly full, badly fragmented or with bad sectors.


    please fix something so you can write applications in html5 in electron
  • »11.02.22 - 22:15
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2650 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Insert half a million $ into the project and I am sure it can be done.
  • »12.02.22 - 02:06
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    This URL is'nt loadable (since a few days, before it works) : http://www.vanvanfan.at/forum/
    But no problem in OWB.
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »18.02.22 - 18:11
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 524 from 2003/2/24
    From: finland, the l...
    Code:
    $ host www.vanvanfan.at
    Host www.vanvanfan.at not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)


    Code:
    $ whois vanvanfan.at
    % Copyright (c)2022 by NIC.AT (1)
    %
    % Restricted rights.
    %
    % Except for agreed Internet operational purposes, no part of this
    % information may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or
    % transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical,
    % recording, or otherwise, without prior permission of NIC.AT on behalf
    % of itself and/or the copyright holders. Any use of this material to
    % target advertising or similar activities is explicitly forbidden and
    % can be prosecuted.
    %
    % It is furthermore strictly forbidden to use the Whois-Database in such
    % a way that jeopardizes or could jeopardize the stability of the
    % technical systems of NIC.AT under any circumstances. In particular,
    % this includes any misuse of the Whois-Database and any use of the
    % Whois-Database which disturbs its operation.
    %
    % Should the user violate these points, NIC.AT reserves the right to
    % deactivate the Whois-Database entirely or partly for the user.
    % Moreover, the user shall be held liable for any and all damage
    % arising from a violation of these points.

    % nothing found


    The domain is gone. It's even available for purchase at https://www.nic.at/

    It likely worked for a while due to some cached DNS entries.

    [ Edited by Piru 18.02.2022 - 21:07 ]
  • »18.02.22 - 19:58
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 800 from 2003/3/4
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    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    This URL is'nt loadable (since a few days, before it works) : http://www.vanvanfan.at/forum/
    But no problem in OWB.


    It would be helpful to try any website you can't reach on https://www.isitdownrightnow.com or https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com.

    OWB seems to have broken webcache checking if it thinks a dead site is still there.
  • »18.02.22 - 20:11
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    @piru:
    Damm, you are right! URL for vanvan has changed, but I did'nt change it in Wayfarer quicklinks......thank you!
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »19.02.22 - 09:07
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Bookmarks: Items in 2nd (and above) levels are not shown in bookmarks, as can be seen here on administration-page:

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  • »26.02.22 - 19:01
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2650 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    This is a limitation of intuition.library (great design the 80s). If you open MUI menu settings for Wayfarer, you can make MUI use its own menus - basically every other setting than “like system menus” would show additional levels.
  • »27.02.22 - 00:44
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 982 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Thank you! Every day learning something new........
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »27.02.22 - 09:42
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11575 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Every day learning something new

    If I'm not mistaken, this issue was already discussed in this thread and the solution presented in comment #307 (2nd quote from bottom).
  • »27.02.22 - 10:56
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2650 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Wayfarer 3 was just rebased to WebKitGtk 2.34.6 (latest stable). Some problems remain, but I'll hopefully be able to release a beta in the next two weeks or so (TM).
  • »08.03.22 - 15:33
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MoerBoer
    Posts: 161 from 2019/10/15
    I hope Wayfarer is included as a standard application in the next version of MorphOS. In my mind it surely deserves it.

    They should probably not remove OWB for really slow machines, but have Wayfarer there as the modern alternative. It's also nice for newbies to see that there is a modern browser included out of the box.

    Just my 2c.

    Keep up the great work jaca!
  • »09.03.22 - 08:22
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Flash
    Posts: 91 from 2019/11/1
    Quote:

    MoerBoer wrote:
    I hope Wayfarer is included as a standard application in the next version of MorphOS. In my mind it surely deserves it.

    They should probably not remove OWB for really slow machines, but have Wayfarer there as the modern alternative. It's also nice for newbies to see that there is a modern browser included out of the box.

    Just my 2c.

    Keep up the great work jaca!


    Completely agree.
    I wonder in Jaca’s WebKit patches to run it on bigendian cpus (and MOS) are public and available everyone else.
  • »09.03.22 - 09:19
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 524 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    Flash wrote:
    I wonder in Jaca’s WebKit patches to run it on bigendian cpus (and MOS) are public and available everyone else.

    https://github.com/jacadcaps/webkitty
  • »09.03.22 - 12:02
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 524 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    MoerBoer wrote:
    I hope Wayfarer is included as a standard application in the next version of MorphOS. In my mind it surely deserves it.

    It was.

    Quote:

    They should probably not remove OWB for really slow machines, but have Wayfarer there as the modern alternative. It's also nice for newbies to see that there is a modern browser included out of the box.

    Odyssey was removed from MorphOS base install. Upgrading to 3.16 from earlier release does not remove already installed Odyssey.

    Odyssey will also be made available as separate download. It will not receive further updates, however.
  • »09.03.22 - 12:08
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MoerBoer
    Posts: 161 from 2019/10/15
    Crickey! 3.16 is out!?
  • »09.03.22 - 12:25
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