New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Big thanks to all who donated!

    Version 8.2 is now out. I've rebased to the latest stable WebKitGTK 2.44.1 since it fixes some of the additional crashes people were seeing.

    This version also enables lazy image loading support which may improve performance on websites using the functionality.
  • »05.05.24 - 18:07
    Profile Visit Website
  • Caterpillar
    Caterpillar
    Posts: 33 from 2023/3/27
    Just made a small donation to support your awesome work and keep you motivated.
  • »05.05.24 - 15:18
    Profile
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1243 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Oh! Wow!
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »05.05.24 - 09:18
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Wayfarer 8.1 now out to fix the reported crashes.
  • »05.05.24 - 02:56
    Profile Visit Website
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1243 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    @jpv: Thank you! That does the trick.....

    @jacad: Interessting, i'm sure it worked (Video) a week ago, but it's possible they have changed - they allways change things from time to time.. But over all: V8.0 works very well!
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »04.05.24 - 19:09
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    On videos on site https://orf.at/ sound does'nt work any more.



    Had a look at their HLS stream and they are now using a separate playlist(s) for their audio data. As in: it's no longer being encoded in the same chunks as video. I'll think about this, but it's going to be a major refactor to support, so no promises.
  • »04.05.24 - 18:13
    Profile Visit Website
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Papiosaur wrote:
    Bizarre, some crashes (send) at first launches... any idea? Now work fine... Maybe a memory problem...



    I'll take a look at the reports you've sent in the next couple of days...
  • »04.05.24 - 17:58
    Profile Visit Website
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Tried to donate with Wayfarer 8.0 -> no PayPal login possible! Cannot write anything on login-page.



    You must be getting a different login page in Europe than I'm getting in Canada, cause it's working just fine here.

    Quote:

    On videos on site https://orf.at/ sound does'nt work any more.


    It doesn't work with Wayfarer 7.x either, so something must have changed on their end.
  • »04.05.24 - 17:57
    Profile Visit Website
  • jPV
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    jPV
    Posts: 2033 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Tried to donate with Wayfarer 8.0 -> no PayPal login possible! Cannot write anything on login-page.
    Had to switch back to Wayfarer 7.x to log in....


    You can write on the login prompt, but it just doesn't get updated automatically. Resize the Wayfarer window to get it updated to the current input.
  • »04.05.24 - 11:53
    Profile Visit Website
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1243 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Tried to donate with Wayfarer 8.0 -> no PayPal login possible! Cannot write anything on login-page.
    Had to switch back to Wayfarer 7.x to log in....

    On videos on site https://orf.at/ sound does'nt work any more.

    Problem, I wrote in #1516 seems now solved - does what it should again.



    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 04.05.2024 - 11:18 ]
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »04.05.24 - 08:23
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Wayfarer 8.0 is now available for download.

    It's getting increasingly hard to update WebKit. This version either deprecated or broke a lot of the compile time options I've been using to customize the build. This means I had to put more work into this upgrade than with version 5, 6 or 7.

    Please consider donating if you appreciate my work.

    [ Edited by jacadcaps 04.05.2024 - 03:34 ]
  • »04.05.24 - 01:57
    Profile Visit Website
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1479 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    @ jacadcaps - thanks for the update, and for all your (& Piru's) effort that's required to keep Wayfarer relevant, and as up-to-date as possible, for us all to enjoy using it. :-D
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.18+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
  • »29.04.24 - 04:20
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Writing this from Wayfarer 8.0. Basic port is now done. It remains to be seen how much more I'll have to spend fixing and debugging - media player had so many changes for example, that it will take me a while to restore basic functionality there. All in all, it looks like 8.0 release is now 2 weeks away.
  • »29.04.24 - 01:53
    Profile Visit Website
  • man
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    man
    Posts: 113 from 2019/11/11
    thanks jacadcaps
    else some sites like adidas works now
  • »09.04.24 - 14:25
    Profile
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1479 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    With regard to Wayfarer's (v7.7 & v7.8) issue (seemingly) with reCAPTCHA, if you have to use the reCAPTCHA protocol/utility/challenge more than twice, then Wayfarer seems to indicate that it's "had enough of that" and just offers the initial stage of reCAPTCHA - the "revolving blue arc" and you get nowhere further to completing the challenge. So, you have to reboot if you want to try again, which seems annoying and weird! :-?

    Also, if I use v7.5 of Wayfarer then I can resend/complete the reCAPTCHA challenge numerous times without the issue/behaviour that v7.7 and v7.8 seem to exhibit - preventing the challenge from being completed. So, it does seem to be isolated to these last 2 versions of Wayfarer with regard to reCAPTCHA, from my use of the various versions of Wayfarer I have tested so far.
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.18+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
  • »09.04.24 - 11:07
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3000 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    If a video is slow, it's likely loaded in too high resolution for your machine. Simply pick a lower res from Youtube's menu. I'd recommend 480p for most G4 machines. 1.67GHz PowerBooks should be able to do 720p. G5 machines should be able to play 1080p. Do NOT enable VP8 or HVC - these need a lot more CPU than H264.

    [ Edited by jacadcaps 08.04.2024 - 15:30 ]
  • »08.04.24 - 14:24
    Profile Visit Website
  • man
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    man
    Posts: 113 from 2019/11/11
    i have some problems with rares videos on youtube.
    I don't know if others peoples have theses problems that the videos are slow
    i can put some example if you want
    thanks
    thanks for jacadcaps too
  • »07.04.24 - 18:07
    Profile
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1479 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    In relation to Microzeit dot com - that I reported at Comment #1535 the same behaviour also happens on PayPal [dot] com / signin because in order to try to use Wayfarer with Discogs I deleted my cookies, so when I went to login at PayPal it asked me for my login name-email but once the page had loaded nothing seemed to work, and no text appeared in the top text input requester for my login name details, and nothing seemed to happen when the other gadgets/buttons were clicked on.

    . . . Then . . . I remembered the issue with Microzeit and decided to just move the rezise gadget, ever so slightly, at the bottom right corner of the browser page, and Hey Presto, that revealed the same issue as Microzeit . . .

    Wayfarer is seemingly just not refreshing the browser page on PayPal in the same way as it fails to do so with Mircozeit. As what I had typed was actually in the text input frame but was not shown in the browser without this 'manual page refresh'.

    Not even a forced refresh using Cmd+r/R made any difference to what was in view.

    It takes a manual mouse/cursor moving of that resize gadget to refresh the page to make these details visible, and only up to what had been typed, as no sooner had the manual refresh with the window resize gadget been done the page was "frozen" once again, at the moment the refresh was completed. So, if you'd only typed part of your username or email, then that's all you'll still see, and it takes a "blind" type of whatever else is needed to be typed into that field to complete it, and then another refresh for the window to be active for you to input those details with the return / enter key or a click on the input button - IIRC. 8-D

    I hope this issue gets fixed quickly, or incorporated in v8 of Wayfarer, also as soon as possible. ;-)

    [UPDATE] - regarding the Discogs - logging in issue - that relates to Discogs Thread #1531 here on Morph-Zone. I heard back from their support team, and after a couple of back-and-forth messages, I actually managed to login as normal, using Wayfarer v7.8, and got to look around, so accessing the site with Wayfarer v7.8 is possible. :-D

    I then found some item I was interested in, but then comes the next problem reCAPTCHA - Oh yes, it's the same problem as before a constant rotating half-circle/arc with no sign of the puzzle square appearing, that's what occurs when you've used Wayfarer for a while and not quit and restarted it.

    However, once it's been quit and restarted it allows the reCAPTCHA PUZZLE-IMAGE Square to load, and you can click, and "check" the squares as required, and after a short while the puzzles are solved and the reCPATCHA mechanism allows you to continue ...

    BUT THEN ... comes into view some dark foreboding gloomy Cloudflare so there is then no way to complete it, so no way to send a message. :-(

    Currently with Wayfarer I think Discogs is a NO-GO for us, due to Cloudflare

    Using Wayfarer for a while seems to 'clog-up' (upset the stability) of some of the internal code of Wayfarer, probably JavaScript, from working correctly to manage the reCAPTCHA engine, but a quit and restart seems to settle it all back to work OK again, but Cloudflare is a completely different problem, that is currently unsurpassable! :-(
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.18+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
  • »02.04.24 - 06:41
    Profile
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1479 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Wayfarer's (v7.8), and yes I also tried earlier versions, capability to cope with reCAPTCHA seems to be having a problem at the moment, well it is at least with this website - manualslib dot com, when I tried to download the Imation Superdisk LS-120 manual.

    I tried several ways, using a different User Agent than Safari, which I find is usually the overall most supported across networks and websites web-browser identifier. I also deleted all my cookies, as at some point the reCAPTCHA tick/checkmark box would either not even display or just continued to show the 'busy rotating arc/circle/hoop'.

    Initially Wayfarer just would not get to the picture collage, though OWB got to it straight away, but then couldn't get past that as the clicks on the images were not recognised by the response of me with OWB to the website, so I was stuck at that point with OWB.

    When I did eventually get to the picture collage, and it required a reboot to get that far, as it seems that no matter how many times Wayfarer quits it still leaves some trace of itself in memory ... somewhere ... at least that's what it seems due to this persisting until a reboot has been carried out! Anyway, after a reboot I was able, almost immediately, with no cookies, or remnants of Wayfarer in memory it managed to get to the picture collage, and allowed me to 'check' (tick) the required images/pictures, but once that was complete and I was past the reCAPTCHA then Wayfarer's click on the "Get Manual" button was not recognised and so all that messing about was a waste of time! :-(

    Anyone else visited this site and have any suggestions or a similar experience? :-?

    I know Wayfarer v8 is being worked on, but I had not actually expected to encounter this reCAPTCHA issue with this well known site seeing as such a lot of work has been done by Jacadcaps and Piru of recent, as it's not like development with Wayfarer is standing still - big thanks to their regular hard work. 8-D

    I also noticed that sometimes, and it is quite infrequently, that a 'dash' (hyphen) appears towards the centre of the title bar of Wayfarer's window (GUI) (not the very top menu bar) and pulses on/off for a short while, as though some errant code has almost slipped out of the GUI and could get up to some mischief, but then it seems to go dormant again - anyone noticed that as well? :-?

    I've still not heard back from Discogs - logging in issue, which relates back to Comment #1530 in this thread (above), but when I do I will endeavour to update this thread accordingly

    Also, Manualzz dot com has now gone Cloudflare so we MorphOS users using Wayfarer cannot use that site either it seems. :-(
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.18+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
  • »31.03.24 - 09:29
    Profile
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Primax
    Posts: 130 from 2021/7/2
    I do very appreciate the ongoing development of Wayfarer! Thanks a lot Jacek!

    For me, the features the browser offers, are completely sufficient and great. I actually would like to see some (more) improvement and focus on performance and speed, if possible.

    For example, I opened this last blog entry from Michal Schulz on Patreon:
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/packet-radio-101281472

    My AmigaOne X5000 took 90 (!) seconds to load this page. So long, I could not do anything. Is this such a crapy website?
    GitHub pages are not even better...

    Thanks!
    AmigaOne X5000 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon X1650 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition / MorphOS 3.17
    Amiga1200 / Blizzard 1230 IV PiStorm32-lite / 128 MB RAM / AmigaOS 3.9
  • »30.03.24 - 21:33
    Profile Visit Website
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    NewSense
    Posts: 1479 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Update - regarding Comment thread #1530 - Discogs - unable to login via their site's identification system but ... they have stated that their security ID system generated an error, which they said was to blame, but even now I cannot login, so I am still having to wait and see if this website can be used directly to login with Wayfarer. I am in contact with their support desk, but it is not so inspiring at the moment! :-(

    If I manage to get past the login screen (legitimately) then I will update this thread. Just in case anyone is interested. ;-)
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.18+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
  • »30.03.24 - 07:00
    Profile
  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    SkulleateR
    Posts: 52 from 2023/9/19
    Quote:

    ghh schrieb:
    @SkulleateR Try https://archive.org
    And yes I have white page with http://


    Woa, thx and sorry for that, seems I have messed up my Bookmarks (I'm sure I've put the HTTPS in there) ... never mind ;-)

    [ Editiert durch SkulleateR 29.03.2024 - 22:14 ]
  • »29.03.24 - 22:14
    Profile