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    > what do you mean by:
    > Quote:

    Yes, and PPC :-)


    I mean that the G5 is not only a 64-bit CPU but also a PPC CPU :-)
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    64-bit and PPC, just like the PA6T, the P5020, the P5040, and the T1042.

    So we have what we need without an ISA change.
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    @Andreas_Wolf

    Ah, we are speaking of two different things then. But I understand the misunderstanding. I meant that IF MorphOS will be shifting to another CPU, then you can first work on a 64 bit version on the G5 since it's already supported.
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    Addendum:

    >> "IIRC, Ben Hermanns is no longer a partner of A-Eon, since they
    >> reformed in the UK and closed the Belgium based company."
    >> http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=35093&forum=32#651254

    > And indeed, A-Eon's October 1st [2011] press release has been the last one where
    > the company calls itself a CVBA. Starting with the one from October 12th [2011],
    > all 8 subsequent press releases have missed the "CVBA" bit. So [...] Ben
    > Hermans' involvement in A-Eon ceased somewhen between October 1st and
    > October 12th [2011]

    AmigaKit now claims this happened already one year earlier:

    "Later on in late 2010, our role changed and we had to help get the project back on track."
    http://www.amigakit.com/catalog/news.php?news_id=181#newsid181
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=767411
    http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7129
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    somewhat stronger statement from March of this year

    It's worth noting that he's stating for the record that Trevor was only a silent partner and not managing the company.

    It's also worth noting that he's stating neither Amigakit nor Trevor were to blame due their roles at the time.

    #6



    [ Edited by number6 28.06.2014 - 09:40 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    @Andreas_Wolf

    Understood. Wording makes this difficult. You could argue the following offers yet another date:

    same thread as referred above

    Quote:

    I have read with interest the comments in the past year since I have been involved in the A-EON project:


    That can mean he's been involved only in the last year OR he's only read comments with interest in the past year.

    "involved" is a vague term regardless.

    I don't think the specific info you are looking for is stated concisely anywhere.

    #6
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    >> AmigaKit now claims this happened already one year earlier: [...]

    > somewhat stronger statement from March of this year

    Unfortunately, nothing there about the late 2010 vs. late 2011 discrepancy I was getting at.


    It's possible that Trevor brought Amigakit onboard in a consulting role late 2010 to help get the X1000 development back on track under A-Eon CVBA, with the change to A-Eon Technology Ltd (and hence change in ownership & management) taking place in the October 2011 period.
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    > You could argue the following offers yet another date: [...]
    > Quote:

    I have read with interest the comments in the past year since I have been involved in the A-EON project:


    I take this to be a mere typo, missing plural 's'. '2010' instead of '2011' could be a typo as well, of course.
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    > It's possible that Trevor brought Amigakit onboard in a consulting role late 2010 to
    > help get the X1000 development back on track under A-Eon CVBA, with the change
    > to A-Eon Technology Ltd (and hence change in ownership & management) taking
    > place in the October 2011 period.

    Yes, that's possible indeed.
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    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    Quote:


    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    I think that Rajinder refers to Dickinson sending the MorphOS Team a bare Rev2 Nemo board.


    Man, I'm surprised they got that. But how were they supposed to assemble it and where do you get a PA6T from?


    I highly doubt he sent them a _bare_ board. I'm sure it's fully populated with all the necessary components (and CPU). By "bare" I think he meant they were sent a functional motherboard only, not a complete system with case, drives, etc.
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    >>> I think that Rajinder refers to Dickinson sending the MorphOS Team a bare
    >>> Rev2 Nemo board.

    >> Man, I'm surprised they got that. But how were they supposed to assemble it
    >> and where do you get a PA6T from?

    > By "bare" I think he meant [...] a functional motherboard only, not a complete system
    > with case, drives, etc.

    Yes, I meant exactly that, as clarified by me 12 postings and 5 hours after the statement:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7183&forum=3&start=19
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    >>> I think that Rajinder refers to Dickinson sending the MorphOS Team a bare
    >>> Rev2 Nemo board.

    >> Man, I'm surprised they got that. But how were they supposed to assemble it
    >> and where do you get a PA6T from?

    > By "bare" I think he meant [...] a functional motherboard only, not a complete system
    > with case, drives, etc.

    Yes, I meant exactly that, as clarified by me 12 postings and 5 hours after the statement:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7183&forum=3&start=19


    I didn't bother to read the entire thread because I knew you would point out any oversight ;)
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    >>>>>> "IIRC, Ben Hermanns is no longer a partner of A-Eon, since they
    >>>>>> reformed in the UK and closed the Belgium based company."
    >>>>>> http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=35093&forum=32#651254

    >>>>> And indeed, A-Eon's October 1st [2011] press release has been the last one where
    >>>>> the company calls itself a CVBA. Starting with the one from October 12th [2011],
    >>>>> all 8 subsequent press releases have missed the "CVBA" bit. So [...] Ben
    >>>>> Hermans' involvement in A-Eon ceased somewhen between October 1st and
    >>>>> October 12th [2011]

    >>>> AmigaKit now claims this happened already one year earlier:
    >>>> "Later on in late 2010, our role changed and we had to help get the project
    >>>> back on track."
    >>>> http://www.amigakit.com/catalog/news.php?news_id=181#newsid181
    >>>> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=767411
    >>>> http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7129

    >>> somewhat stronger statement from March of this year

    >> Unfortunately, nothing there about the late 2010 vs. late 2011 discrepancy
    >> I was getting at.

    > It's possible that Trevor brought Amigakit onboard in a consulting role late 2010
    > to help get the X1000 development back on track under A-Eon CVBA, with the
    > change to A-Eon Technology Ltd (and hence change in ownership & management)
    > taking place in the October 2011 period.

    It seems your own excellent research revealing that Hermans stepped down from being an A-Eon director in December 2010 has finally solved that 2010 vs. 2011 mystery:

    http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/250623.shtml

    So I guess it went something like this:

    04/2009: A-Eon CVBA founded in Belgium by Hermans, T. Dickinson and Moorley as shareholders as well as directors
    12/2010: Hermans quits his A-Eon CVBA director position (and relinquishes his shares), AmigaKit/Leaman gets involved as consultant or similar
    10/2011: A-Eon CVBA starts omitting the mention of its legal form in press releases
    04/2012: A-Eon Ltd. founded in UK by Leaman, T. Dickinson and C. Dickinson as shareholders with Leaman acting as sole director
    04/2013: A-Eon CVBA dissolved (T. Dickinson and Moorley are mentioned in this paper)

    Any objections, remarks, additions?
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    Update:

    > drivers for [...] onboard Ethernet are still not completed.

    Seems supported now, not sure since when:

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39454&forum=33&start=20#743237

    ...or not:

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39487&forum=2&start=80#744168
    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39487&forum=2&start=100#744413

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 04.11.2014 - 23:19 ]
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    Addendum:

    > So I guess it went something like this:
    > [...]
    > 04/2012: A-Eon Ltd. founded in UK by Leaman, T. Dickinson and C. Dickinson as partners
    > with Leaman acting as sole director
    > [...]
    > Any objections, remarks, additions?

    "Trevor Dickinson, co-founder and managing director of A-EON Technology"
    http://amiga30.com/kickstarter-launched/
    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/890300835/amiga-30th-anniversary-in-california

    "Trevor is co-founder and the Managing director A-Eon."
    http://www.kickstarter.com/profiles/890300835/bio

    So he is an (the?) A-Eon Technology Ltd. director after all?
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    Pledge $5000 or more and you will get AmigaOne X1000, what a bargain ;)
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    Update:

    > drivers for [...] onboard Ethernet are still not completed.

    Seems supported now, not sure since when:

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39454&forum=33&start=20#743237

    ...or not:

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39487&forum=2&start=80#744168
    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39487&forum=2&start=100#744413


    I don`t own AmigaOS 4 Final, but from Epsilons review I see;
    http://amigax1000.blogspot.com/2015/01/amigaos41-final-edition-part-2.html

    a) JXFS wizard file system is dead: A warning comes up to remind me that JXFS is no longer supported in AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition, and has a read-only legacy mode only.
    b) There seems to be a memory card driver (finally, since now I can update Linux kernel from AmigaOS)
    c) It seems faster onboard ethernet is included BUT NOT WORKING (in despite what SSolie sad above) but Epsilon wasn`t brave enough to test it: "You are then asked to choose your network card. I got a bit excited when I saw that the built in X1000 network adapter is included as an option (we have to use a PCI network card under AmigaOS4.1.6). I selected the built in adapter and click on Test this Configuration: Unfortunately it didn't work - I also subsequently found out the built-in network driver has dropout issues and shouldn't be used by X1000 owners at this time."

    I wait for time to free PCI slot and trash the slow card, similar as I did to sound card, once onboard audio was supported (or replacing it by Sound Blaster Live emu card)

    But, it seems old net card now causes conflicts with newer Linux kernel - cleaned by now, but its good to see MATE on PPC Linux, too.
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    > AmigaOS 4 Final

    4.1 :-)

    > It seems faster onboard ethernet is included BUT NOT WORKING [...] but Epsilon wasn`t
    > brave enough to test it: "[...] I selected the built in adapter and click on Test this
    > Configuration: Unfortunately it didn't work [...]"

    To me it sounds like he tested it.
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > AmigaOS 4 Final

    >4.1 :-)

    Yeah, all those great small mistakes, but after XYZ update packs, its good to get one slim installation from zero, and that is the key reason why I will get it (even X1000 license has a prepaid license for OS 4.2 included).

    > It seems faster onboard ethernet is included BUT NOT WORKING [...] but Epsilon wasn`t
    > brave enough to test it: "[...] I selected the built in adapter and click on Test this
    > Configuration: Unfortunately it didn't work [...]"

    To me it sounds like he tested it.


    What I ment he wasn`t brave enough to go beyond test button, select it and try it in real use. Even I suppose if test doesn`t work, it shouldn`t in real either, but I wonder why they would put the non working driver. I suppose we have to wait for some next small update via Amiudapte that would make it work - so putting some file was required for update of it later.

    Even such things as fast onboard Ethernet driver and memory card driver aren`t huge leaps, they are essential to daily use. It was a bit sad to boot to Linux to use 10x faster ethernet that was already there. Memory card is essential as one can boot Linux kernel and even Amigaboot loader from it.
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    vox wrote:

    but I wonder why they would put the non working driver.


    Isn't that their standard modus operandi?

    :lol: ;-)
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    Update:

    >> What ever CPU Trevor and the engineers at Varisys decide to use for the
    >> next A-Eon motherboard design, I hope that [...] it will be a design that
    >> appeals to the MorphOS Dev. Team, so a port might be possible.

    > http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=717208 ;-)

    http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2015-04-00032-EN.html :-)

    There seems to be L3 cache support even, as opposed to OS4.
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    pampers wrote:
    Pledge $5000 or more and you will get AmigaOne X1000, what a bargain ;)


    The whole Kickstarter page makes the event look like an advertisement for X1000.

    Par for the course I suppose.
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    Quote:

    redrumloa wrote:
    Quote:

    pampers wrote:
    Pledge $5000 or more and you will get AmigaOne X1000, what a bargain ;)


    The whole Kickstarter page makes the event look like an advertisement for X1000.

    Par for the course I suppose.


    Well I don't mind Kickstarter but donating money for an event is a waste of money for me. I would prefer to donate some development, not a meeting for few old fellas (no ofense to anyone) sitting and talking.
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    Addendum:

    >> So I guess it went something like this:
    >> [...]
    >> 04/2012: A-Eon Ltd. founded in UK by Leaman, T. Dickinson and C. Dickinson as partners
    >> with Leaman acting as sole director
    >> [...]
    >> Any objections, remarks, additions?

    > "Trevor Dickinson, co-founder and managing director of A-EON Technology"
    > http://amiga30.com/kickstarter-launched/
    > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/890300835/amiga-30th-anniversary-in-california
    >
    > "Trevor is co-founder and the Managing director A-Eon."
    > http://www.kickstarter.com/profiles/890300835/bio
    >
    > So he is an (the?) A-Eon Technology Ltd. director after all?

    "Matthew Leaman is the Managing Director of A-EON Technology Ltd and looks after all the day-to-day business."
    http://distrita.com/a-eon-interview-about-amigas-future/

    So I guess here we have it from the horse's mouth that the claim that Trevor Dickinson is a (or even the) managing director of the company is false.
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