> all the bullshit claims in what it will do next, like 64-bit support,
> multicore, and 100% compatibility.

What I find surprising is that GART support would fall in the domain of ExecSG. I would have located this within the graphics framework.

"GART support is something that I'd like to implement, although I cannot say when that will happen."
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=113728#forumpost113728

"This option would probably work best on OpenGL implementations where the driver can put GL_STREAM_DRAW buffers in GART space (which is on the to-do list for Nova)."
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=111610#forumpost111610

"until Nova gets DMA/GART support here things are even slower on AOS4 compared to e.g. PC."
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=111616#forumpost111616

"DMA/GART support in the driver should help speed this up, and is something that I do hope to implement at some point."
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=67906#forumpost67906

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or one has control of the "kernal", and the other the "kernel". heh. Fortunately chicken is in control of "colonel".

Problem is, everyone is in transit to the show or unavailable to clarify atm. But I'm sure we'll get some info later.

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Oh wow! Fist fight between Trevor and Matt now?

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I'm not sure about that at all...

>> I hope it's not a case of A-Eon Technologies having
>> acquired ExecSG while A-Eon Technology does not ;-)

> Oh wow! Fist fight between Trevor and Matt now?

Unlikely, unless it was one of them who worded the AmiWest blog article and managed to get their own company name wrong.

Kernel or kernal?

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an explanation

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@thread

More clear:

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Source

and

24. October 23, 2019 Exec SG updates CORRECTION!

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> Source and 24. October 23, 2019 Exec SG updates CORRECTION!

So the ones who "ignored the forest for the trees" and assumed that Trevor Dickinson purchased ExecSG as an individual were right, as it seems :-)

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Some assumed, and apparently some were told:

oldie but goodie

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@thread

Additional interesting history starting at about 11:00 (uploaded last night)

Devcon Day 1

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My comment was mostly in jest, I probably should have put a wink emoji in there.

That said, in this Kommunity, it wouldn't be all that surprising.

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Touche I suppose

But I think you missed the bigger point. Most of us looking at this see the distinction between A-Eonkit owning the IP, or Trevor personally, as semantics. The bigger point was that the Wonder Twins sold off their IP, despite the poorly worded vague denials to the contrary.

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There's a major difference between Aeon and Trevor owning it and it's mainly financial control. ;)

>> So the ones who "ignored the forest for the trees" and
>> assumed that Trevor Dickinson purchased ExecSG as an
>> individual were right, as it seems :-)

> I think you missed the bigger point.

I think you are dreaming up a bigger point where there is none in reality.

> The bigger point was that the Wonder Twins sold off their IP

And how exactly was I, assuming that they sold it to Trevor, "ignoring the forest for the trees" then?

> despite the poorly worded vague denials to the contrary

Can you link to such alleged denying that the Friedens sold ExecSG? Else, I must assume you dreamt this up as well.

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quick highlights from part 1 of day 1 Devcon

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>> Can you link to such alleged denying that the Friedens sold ExecSG?

> quick highlights from part 1 of day 1 Devcon

Denial not found.

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I never said there was a denial. I merely addressed a link to you because I thought you would possibly be interested in the content. My apologies.

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>>>> Can you link to such alleged denying that the Friedens sold ExecSG?

>>> quick highlights from part 1 of day 1 Devcon

>> Denial not found.

> I never said there was a denial. I merely addressed a link to you
> because I thought you would possibly be interested in the content.

To me it looks like you quoted a question of mine and gave an answer I could not make sense of. Maybe just put @username above the reply instead of quoting anything unrelated to avoid confusion. But thanks for the link. It's interesting and spares me the pain of listening to ssolie ;-)

So to summarise, Trevor was the bullshitter. Bullshit by sophistry, in this case.

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Totally my fault. I was in a hurry. @thread would have worked too I guess.

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>> I think the main reason for lack of mainstream coverage is the
>> lack of an official press release by Cloanto and/or Amiga Inc.

> Agree. That is where it should/would begin.

Maybe imminent?

http://www.amiwest.net/amiwest2019blog/#sect25.

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As I do not see Mike specifically mentioned on the
show schedule
This could mean at the banquet, in private, or almost anything atm.

btw-amidst all the AmiWest talk, this kinda got overlooked:
for what it's worth

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Update:

> What I find surprising is that GART support would fall in the domain of ExecSG.
> I would have located this within the graphics framework.

Mystery resolved. kas1e, who managed to watch all 2 hours, explains that what the ExecSG team lead calls GART is not real GART but the usual kernel DMA that's been implemented on the X1000 for ages but is still missing on the X5000.

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=43473&forum=14&start=60#828212

Reminds me of those "eggheads" and their "textbook implementation of SMP" ;-)

> As I do not see Mike specifically mentioned on the
show schedule
> This could mean at the banquet, in private, or almost anything atm.

Meanwhile, Battilana's Amiga 34 presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUD7y5mpTao

Summary: http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2019-11-00002-EN.html


Edit: added summary

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 05.11.2019 - 09:02 ]