> another piece of software started under MorphOS is released
> for use by the OS4 base.

...while it's still unreleased for the MorphOS base ;-)

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This does not exist.

In August 2015, A-EON Technology Ltd contracted Hyperion/Mincea to complete the X5000 network driver. Approaching three years later, we had not received any drivers. Due to the delay with this development and our eagerness to deliver a solution for the customers, an interim solution was found. Mark was commissioned to write the driver for OS4 and MorphOS, which he promptly did and presented us with an alpha version then a subsequent beta version. We released the beta version to our internal Amiga Developer beta test team who validated it ready for public release.

Technically we have paid for another driver from Hyperion which I presume is still being developed, maybe by another developer now on behalf of Hyperion? The most important thing is the end-users (our customers) have a working, high quality driver and do not have to wait any longer.



[ Edited by amigakit 11.09.2018 - 17:57 ]

> They weren't built until they were ordered

I can't remember anyone telling he ordered at AmigaKit and had to wait months for his X1000 until the number of orders matched batch size.

> there were 70 to 280 (depending on who you ask) ever made

Trevor said 1st batch alone was 250 boards, 100 of which went to beta testers. And there were several further batches of unknown (probably smaller) size. Maybe you only have clueless people to ask :-P

>> 2 versions of 2 Drivers

> Appears there are four.
> 1) Costel's version (not working)
> 2) Version Hyperion paid for from someone else which Costel is now talking about
> 3) A-Eon's first version
> 4) A-Eon's second version (Bigfoot)

What's "A-Eon's first version"? I can't remember I read anything on that.
Including Costel's abandoned set of abandoned drivers it's 3 sets of 2 drivers each. And btw, the A-Eon set of drivers is from bigfoot (X5000/Cyrus) and rwo (A1222/Tabor).

>> 2) Version Hyperion paid for from someone else [...]

> Technically we have paid for another driver from Hyperion
> which I presume is still being developed

As I'm sure you read, Costel says Hyperion's commissioned drivers are ready.

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Another?

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Source

That reads as "2" more. What am I missing here?

#6

Yeah, I'm not sure I'm clear on this either.

Is the driver Aeon is waiting on, the driver they originally contract with Mincea for, or the driver which Mincea now claims is ready (that would appear to have been created by a subcontractor), or for the purpose of fulfilling the contract does the later subsume/replace the earlier?

Assuming that when Mincea's driver development was discontinued, a sub was hired to fulfill the contract, this is the clearest understanding I can come to from this jumbled description of events.

That the latest driver (again, supposedly ready) is a substitute for the earlier project.

And that regardless of Hyperion's position, Aeon wanted to get a driver in the hands of their beta testers NOW and paid for a second (which could, in a weird way, be considered the third).

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It may be difficult to keep this simple, but I'll give it a go.
Start with what -was- released with enhancer V1.4:

A1222 ethernet device v1.2 (added) - Rene
USBADM8511 device v53.11 (added) - Rene
X5000 ethernet device v52.6 (added) - Mark/Frank

Reason: "The most important thing is the end-users (our customers) have a working, high quality driver and do not have to wait any longer."

2015 (my link) is the talk of contract for 2 of the above and X1000. Forget those from the standpoint of Costel doing them. afaik, the following would describe their reassignment:

X1000: consider that abandoned until someone says otherwise. It has been plainly admitted that it is low priority for Hyperion.
A1222 and X5000 were contracted out by Hyperion.

Ergo, the only question remaining is about these last 2. I know of no status and I've read no posts about them in public. If you have, that would be new information imo.

@Amigakit

If I have somehow misrepresented the current situation, please correct me.

#6

> Is the driver Aeon is waiting on, the driver they originally contract with Mincea for,
> or the driver which Mincea now claims is ready

I guess amigakit was referring to the latter. And I don't think they are really waiting on these drivers now that the Olsens have delivered ;-)

@number6

Your summary reads OK.

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We have received no official information from Hyperion on status, progress or any possible release date of these.


@Andreas_Wolf

After three years of waiting, I have received a lot of feedback over the last two days from X5000 end-users who seem very pleased with the new driver on the Enhancer Software 1.4 developed by Mark. This driver is the official A-EON driver for the A-EON X5000 hardware.



[ Edited by amigakit 11.09.2018 - 22:58 ]

> I have received a lot of feedback over the last two days from
> X5000 end-users who seem very pleased with the new driver on
> the Enhancer Software 1.4 developed by Mark. This driver is
> the official A-EON driver for the A-EON X5000 hardware.

Is my assumption correct that Mark reserves the right to release the MorphOS version of the driver as he sees fit?

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I claim this for couple years:No CFE fixes, constant charges for video driver development, no one to pick up and fix x1000.ethernet device, no signs of OS4 "multicore support" aka OS 4.2, prepaid by x1000 users, promised to them in manual while OS 4.1 is "temporary stop gap".

From OS4 POV:half done, half unusable hardware.

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That is just great, I am eager to hear how was the x1000 users feedback on CFE
and "our drivers" and Linux support incl. mine (Vojin Vidanovic, probably only user that has terminated 2000+ GBP account at your services)

[ Edited by vox 12.09.2018 - 07:26 ]

> A1222 and X5000 were contracted out by Hyperion. [...] the only question
> remaining is about these last 2. I know of no status and I've read no posts
> about them in public. If you have, that would be new information imo.

May or may not be connected:

"Ethernet driver development explained including a new framework. (Jamie Krueger)"
http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmiWest_2018_DevCon

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And reference post #97 this thread as well.

#6

@thread

connection between Tabor release and Checkmate A1500 Plus kickstarter success?

#6

Don‘t see any connection, just a hint that the boards should be released by May....

[ Edited by Kronos 24.09.2018 - 14:05 ]

If Tabor doesn't get the required driver support then I'm sure Tabor mk.2 will be close on its heels. You can always keep buying new hardware, right?

If that came with a non retarded SoC I'm all for it !!!!

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Scrap Tabor in favor of a based T10XX board and I'm all for of it.

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This is just great. You can fly US, get charged for hotel and everything, and learn
how to do OS4 driver from guy which has been delaying it for couple of years and supplied OS4 CDs with half usable drivers or OS41FE x1000, unusable ethernet.device (while in this peculiar case, job was "oursourced")

Plus you get to hear him laughing and promising and ditching hard questions to future.

P.S.
Out of 40% funds neeeded in next 8 days, Trevor did purchase one case (~200$). Its up to community now to decide!

[ Edited by vox 24.09.2018 - 22:05 ]

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I can tell by your post that you are upset, but your wording makes this sound like Jamie "delayed it for couple of years" and Jamie "supplied OS4 CDs with half usable drivers".
This is simply not true. Please see my post #151 above for brief history and Amigakit's confirmation.

It is possible that a more complete account of events will be offered at AmiWest 2018.

#6

[ Edited by number6 25.09.2018 - 10:16 ]

I am speaking of much longer history of unfinished SAM460ex DMA driver, x1000 ethernet.device, SMP, and surely current x5000 and Tabor buggy ones. Only complete
driver solutions were for A1 XE and SAM440.

At other hand, how poorly other community projects are supported, like Checkmate.

Last and not least, AmiWest has turned to "promises,laughs, promises".Simple comparison of announcements and what has been done is a proof of "quality".

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You have got to be kidding.

Checkmate is a project that aims to raise 100,000 USD for the single purpose of producing a batch of retro computer cases that mimmick outdated pizza box-style cases that were first designed decades ago to save desk space and improve ergonomics when placed below small yet bulky CRT monitors.

In times when, often height-adjustable, compact flat screens are the standard and next to nobody is using CRT monitors anymore, nobody should be surprised that this type of form factor has long gone out of style and been pretty much abandoned for good reason.

Plus, at a premium cost of roughly 250 USD for a mere case, this is clearly not a project that will attract the interest of many users. In fact, the fact that "only" a few hundred people have pledged and shown serious interest is proof that this is a niche product and not something that appeals to a majority of community members.

Being a niche product is perfectly fine, by the way. What is not fine is when entitled individuals make accusations against others for not spending thousands and thousands of dollars on a project that by all reasonable standards is "non-essential".

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No, I am not.

And its much, much more than that.


A modular PC case. Perfect case for Standalone Vamp or A500/600 Vamp.
For expanded A1200. Molds to be made for re-production runs.
Then there is a side a500 to a3000 keyboard conversion kit and plan to make
A3000 keyboard replica for all.

In then, there is nice plan to supply OS 3.9, AmiKit X and AROS wherever possible in
ordered kits, way more custom and nicer then CUSA incl. Vampire Standalones.

And that is something here cannot be spoken of (multiple threads deleted)

@vox

You can back these cases with 25.8 gazillion english Złoty if you like, but if I ever put a full-size desktop onto my desk it will be a genuine A3000 or A4000 case with a genuine A3000 or A4000 motherboard in it.

If I need an emulation going beyond what actual HW ever did, I'll just set up UAE somewhere, better, cheaper and just as "real" as Frankenstein-Hype that will soon blow over.

The general public might be mini-NES cos it's cheap and easy to use, if they are geeky they might get an A500 replica case as that the only Amiga they will remember.

A3000 was something very few outside ever saw or would easily identify as "Amiga" so the market for those case is limited by design.

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True, but its Classic users wet dream, and best Amiga by out of box abilities ever. Something like Atari TT. Too advanced, too expensive.

By your every right.

But its NOT just UAE box that you dislike, (thats for PC souls wishing to fire up amikit x or AROS sometimes) it is ALSO Amiga case.

It will be great shame if it fails. Stephen has been a nice spearhead of old school home
innovation, not a money reaper as many.

Loriano is already out, A500 molds succeeded, but there will be NOT many options for Claasics, Vamps,AmigaNGs and PC/Pi Amiga emu boxes. This one deserves to live.

[ Edited by vox 27.09.2018 - 22:31 ]