Update:

> A-Eon seems willing to eliminate the issue by updating the firmware as soon as
> it is able to get hold of the source code. What I find strange though […] is that a
> hardware company doesn't have the source code to the firmware for its own board.

"in 2012, A-EON Technology Ltd paid a Hyperion contractor for the last CFE update to fix support for the Voodoo graphics cards and a few minor issues. […] When then RX compatiblity issue was first identified I asked for the source code to be returned and updated and was told that the source code was lost. It later transpired that the source code was not actually lost despite what I was told at the time. All along the former Hyperion management had the source code and after some persuasion handed it over to the ExecSG team, not A-EON. So the next step is for A-EON to retrieve the source to the Amiga Developer server and complete the work within the Amiga Developer Team."
https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=129219#forumpost129219

"The AmigaDeveloper Team do not have the CFE source code. If it is returned, we can take a look at updating it."
https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=132611#forumpost132611


Edit: added another quote

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 19.08.2022 - 23:47 ]

Update:

> compatibility issue between board firmware and graphics cards.

An X1000 owner managed to boot his machine with a GCN4/Polaris card by altering the content of CFE's STARTUP variable to bypass the grapics card initialization:

https://os4welt-de.translate.goog/viewtopic.php?t=2639&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en (automatic Google translation)

Quote:

Dirty hack, hard to do. CFE is a bitch. Hypex made a great guide, earned rakija ;)
https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8999&start=20

Anyway, sold my x1000 to Kas1e if it helps some future MOS ports and backports.
In midst of this madness :) Kudos to kas1e, big up myself :)

My adds to how CFE is awful

USB boot

My line is for fat16 stick. Copy amigaboot.of there.

Cfe sees just upper two USBs and maps them to kbd and mouse only. Once it's passed and Linux or os4 boot USB can be anywhere

But for cfe boot, unplug Mouse and put stick there. Stop CFE boot with f, and then type menu and take usb boot. Works.

Drivers

Audio yes Lyle did driver on os4 depot and comes in oS4.1fe

Network
Linux only. Driver on os4.1 times out. I have lan and WI Fi cards that work on os4.1. wanted to send, you said bare board. Still can and want

Video
Buy Radeon V4 and enhancer2

No 3d and hw 2d in Linux, openGl broken


CD Boot

Addendum: following the Ubuntu Aeon paid Linux layout, you could make a bat file and make other CDs install But due to leecheng most recent files I recommend running netinstalls. I recommend Ubuntu 14 Lts with Mate, but aeon team made some moronix, phoenix. Good old deb understands the cfe pain and in the end of install will give you proper boot cfe line, you need to enter on your own. Good luck and may Linux be with you Serbian ppc penguin

Cfe can boot from first and third sata

CFE and FS

Contrary to claims cfe cannot take kernel or amigaboot.of from anything but ffs and fat16. That is why instead of card one should make small file holder partition and point CFE to it, Linux style. Fat32 maybe. This is overly complicating but I believe Hypex did help with boot manager that came too late for vox. But should be defaulted. Thanks man!
Enter


SOFT RESET RADEON HD

Explain to him gfx card issue on soft reset due to cfe and x86 combo BIOS. Uboot have some compatibility layer. All this was reported by Hypex and me in fora and nobody gives q fuck


[ Edited by vox 16.10.2022 - 04:48 ]

Update:

> https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=129219#forumpost129219
> [...]
> https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=132611#forumpost132611

"According to Solie, the problem here was that the sourcecode for the 'CFE' firmware used in that particular machine was lost - fortunately it was found again in the meantime. However, the system is so old that it can no longer be compiled with current compilers - which is why Solie is currently trying to set up an older system with the help of a virtual machine, which will then hopefully produce executable binaries."
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2022-10-00104-EN.html

Quote:

Extremely trustful team, cant save firmware source at AEON.
And like in incomplete Libre, everything is there, inn progress, and no results.

Bad for communism, not worth mentioning in capitalism.

Quote:I

Damn it, why he did not warn me, and all x1000 customers? CFE was never advertised!



[ Edited by vox 28.10.2022 - 19:26 ]

> CFE was never advertised!

From Trevor Dickinson in April 2010:

"The A1-X1000’s BIOS is the Common Firmware Environment, or CFE."
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=30985&forum=42#550233

x1000 is nice system on paper, until you try it. CFE is slow, buggy and awful.
I lobbied also for x1000 MOS but it aint happening ...

I might be wrong but I m under impression X5000 port would not happen,
if Trevor did not sponsor it.
I dont know how SAM460ex support came to be, but SAM440,x1000 and A1222 seems to be out
of picture.

However, fact remains MOS could use some new hw after Efika and Peg,
and x5000, no matter how expensive, is only such thing.

Even I am out OS4 world, my advice is to, if not too much hustle, support
SAM 440, A1222 and even x1000 so OS4 users have what to migrate to :D

> I m under impression X5000 port would not happen, if Trevor did not sponsor it.

As far as I know, there was no "sponsoring" beside providing P5020DS development systems for initial porting and later CyrusPlus boards.

> I dont know how SAM460ex support came to be

Likewise, no sponsoring besides providing development systems. The reasoning for the port has been given by MorphOS Team members and discussed here here on MorphZone:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=11037&start=205 (#206)
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6805&start=89 (#90)
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6805&start=99 (#100)

> my advice is to, if not too much hustle, support
> SAM 440, A1222 and even x1000

Hassle with A1222 support would be tremendous for known reasons. Just look at the performance and compatibility issues in OS4 world. It's a wise decision to stay away from it. X1000 support would have been nice, yes. Sam440 I'm rather indifferent to as performance is really low. Efika performance is even lower, but that port was paid for, which made all the difference.

If kas1e agrees, you could loan board from him,
since Trevor wont give up on his marvelous invention.

I could if you asked.

> If kas1e agrees, you could loan board from him [...]. I could if you asked.

I'm not sure what I should do with it ;-)