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    On page 18 of the following
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    Re: A1222 (Tabor)

    Beitrag by Cyborg »July 9, 2018 13:14
    Our part is 95% ready, I would say. The remaining 5% will be polished, optimized and tested. A few things are missing completely, but this falls in A-EON's area of ​​responsibility.
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    [ Edited by Spectre660 08.08.2018 - 16:47 ]
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    On page 18 of the following
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    Re: A1222 (Tabor)

    Beitrag by Cyborg »July 9, 2018 13:14
    Our part is 95% ready, I would say. The remaining 5% will be polished, optimized and tested. A few things are missing completely, but this falls in A-EON's area of ​​responsibility.
    .


    The long knives are coming out.

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    > The long knives are coming out.

    Hyperion director Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea has been shooting against A-Eon on os4welt.de for many months, and not just with regard to Tabor.
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > The long knives are coming out.

    Hyperion director Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea has been shooting against A-Eon on os4welt.de for many months, and not just with regard to Tabor.


    True. And against Amigakit as well.
    And the counterattacks to those statements from Amigakit are public record on AW.

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    And while he was busy speaking other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    >> Hyperion director Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea has been shooting against A-Eon
    >> on os4welt.de for many months, and not just with regard to Tabor.

    > True. And against Amigakit as well. And the counterattacks to those statements
    > from Amigakit are public record on AW.

    If you mean Matthew 'amigakit' Leaman, the sole A-Eon managing director and the main A-Eon shareholder (50%), then this is what I naturally include in the term "A-Eon" (after all, there is no dedicated 'a-eon' account on amigaworld.net). If you mean the online store of Leaman Computing Ltd., then no, I've not seen Cyborg shoot against this.
  • »09.08.18 - 15:50
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    And while he was busy speaking other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .


    I think this thread makes it clear who was doing the work as well:
    Drivers for the internal network chip? (X5000)

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    > other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the
    > ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .

    Do you happen to know who wrote the Ethernet driver for the X5000?
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    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .

    [ Edited by Spectre660 09.08.2018 - 11:59 ]
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .


    Hence why I could only post the link and word it as I did.

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  • »10.08.18 - 07:18
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    number6 wrote:
    Quote:

    Spectre660 wrote:
    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .


    Hence why I could only post the link and word it as I did.

    #6


    Just trying to bring this up to date a bit:

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    The X5000 ethernet driver has been completed and will feature on the Enhancer Software v1.4.

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    is this indicating an issue?

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    Quote:

    number6 wrote:
    Quote:

    number6 wrote:
    Quote:

    Spectre660 wrote:
    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .


    Hence why I could only post the link and word it as I did.

    #6


    Just trying to bring this up to date a bit:

    Quote:

    The X5000 ethernet driver has been completed and will feature on the Enhancer Software v1.4.

    Source

    is this indicating an issue?

    #6



    Not with the builtin driver.
    CMI Sound cards can cause issues including Ethernet problems .

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    [ Edited by Spectre660 30.08.2018 - 11:43 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the
    > ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .

    Do you happen to know who wrote the Ethernet driver for the X5000?




    Enhancer Software 1.4 Released

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    We would also like to extend our thanks to Mark Olsen for his timely and professional work in implementing the X5000 ethernet driver.


    [ Edited by Spectre660 09.09.2018 - 11:01 ]
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the
    > ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .

    Do you happen to know who wrote the Ethernet driver for the X5000?




    Enhancer Software 1.4 Released

    Quote:

    We would also like to extend our thanks to Mark Olsen for his timely and professional work in implementing the X5000 ethernet driver.



    Well if that isn't a big surprise. There's a level of cooperation you wouldn't have seen a few years ago.

    Very cool.

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  • »09.09.18 - 17:33
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    We are very grateful to Mark (and Frank) for their help with this component. It was a great contribution to the latest Enhancer Software.
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    > We are very grateful to Mark (and Frank) for their help with this component.

    Are they allowed to use the code in a future MorphOS release?
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    I‘d guess it was the other way round, them providing sources already done for the MorphOS version.
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    them providing sources


    Is it based on some open source licensed code? Otherwise providing binaries should suffice... ;-)
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    The Linux fortune of Tabor isn't looking very bright either. It's QorIQ P1022 powerpc-spe CPUs support is already obsoleted in gcc 8.x (klick) and will be thrown out in gcc 9.x if nobody steps up to actively maintain it.

    I guess code can still be compiled with gcc using another -mcpu target for e500 or generic ppc. But I suppose it will be hard to utilize floating point instructions then as this is the job of the SPE?
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    > We are very grateful to Mark (and Frank) for their help with this component.

    Are they allowed to use the code in a future MorphOS release?


    It is my understanding that Mark is very busy with real world work. So A-EON sponsored his time to develop the driver for both OS4 and MorphOS. As part of the agreement he has provided us with the full source code for future development. If our team update the source in due course, we are happy to share the changes back to Mark for the benefit of supporting our X5000 customers, whether they prefer OS4 or MorphOS.

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    Well if that isn't a big surprise. There's a level of cooperation you wouldn't have seen a few years ago.


    Actually A-EON Technology Ltd has always been happy to cooperate with users and developers across all Amiga inspired systems. Frank and Mark had a special preview of Tabor and Cyrus prototype boards way back in 2013. Mark has stepped in a few times to help us with firmware upgrades building on the work done by Varisys contractors. So you may be surprised that the Amiga community is a lot more cooperative than some speculation suggests.

    [ Edited by amigakit 10.09.2018 - 10:52 ]
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  • »10.09.18 - 10:45
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    @thread

    Upon returning from vacation Costel posted this retrospective of h/w and thoughts about responsibility and future concerns.
    As it is in German, I always appreciate a correct translation of any items you might think warrant further discussion.

    Source

    further info re:plans

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    > A-EON sponsored his time to develop the driver for both OS4 and MorphOS.
    > [...] he has provided us with the full source code for future development.
    > If our team update the source in due course, we are happy to share the
    > changes back to Mark

    Nice :-)

    > Frank and Mark had a special preview of Tabor and Cyrus prototype
    > boards way back in 2013.

    Yes, bigfoot told the story about P5020DS and Cyrus 3 years ago here on MorphZone. But wait, they also got Tabor prototypes (for evaluation purposes, I guess)? That's interesting, as nothing will come off of it as it seems (due to the MorphOS Team's expressed aversion against SPE/e500v2).

    > Mark has stepped in a few times to help us with firmware upgrades
    > building on the work done by Varisys contractors.

    I remember some of his comments on the X5000/Cyrus U-Boot from 2 years back. Until now, I wasn't aware of the scope of your cooperation in this.
  • »10.09.18 - 16:33
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