Bounty for getting MorphOS Team a PS3
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    discreetfx
    Posts: 380 from 2003/7/26
    From: Chicago, IL
    Our recent bounty to raise money to get one of the core Amiga OS 4.1 developers a PS3 for experimental OS 4.1 porting was very successful. The funds were raised and exceeded in less than 24 hours. Would MorphOS users and developers be interested in us setting one up to get MorphOS Team members PS3 systems to experiment on porting MorphOS? Hate to see them left out.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    TheMagicM
    Posts: 1216 from 2003/6/17
    oh please no.. NO MORPHOS ON PS3!!!


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    radam
    Posts: 3 from 2008/9/20
    Yeah, I have to agree.... I'd much rather donate funds for powerbooks, ibooks, mac minis, etc. My PS3 is for playing games (rarely) and BluRay's (all the time).

    If a mac bounty is needed, you can all count me in as one of the first to donate.
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    clr666
    Posts: 85 from 2008/7/8
    From: Russia
    I like this idea. But until RSX specifications still not public available, there is no 3D.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Quote:

    I like this idea. But until RSX specifications still not public available, there is no 3D.

    it's not just 3D acceleration that's missing, but graphics acceleration general. Which of course means that you can also count out for example proper video playback.

    So, my answer is: "Not before at least the 3D hardaware is opened to public by Sony" (aka "Never")

    Mac Mini & PowerBook / iBook idea is great however! :-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1059 from 2003/3/24
    From: Hamburg/Germany
    Powerbook or IBook would be great. Please no PS3.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    Please, no more silly port-this-os-to-ps3 threads, it's a waste of time until someone cracks this useless "computer" wide open (doesn't look like there's much interest as progress is much farther along on f.ex. Xbox360 (though not much going on there either apart from drivehacks))...

    If you want to donate hardware, atleast donate something useful, like a Wii or a Mac with plausable hardware configuration (G3/G4 and Radeon first and foremost).


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    GMKai
    Posts: 253 from 2003/4/7
    @CISC:

    so you would say that a Wii would be a siutable target for porting MorphOS to it?
    Is it really that open?
    What else beside the HW is needed to port MorphOS to the Wii?
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 560 from 2003/2/24
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    @discreetfx

    For PS3, nope.

    If you must, make the bounty for something useful rather than the closed PS3 (and no, RJ will not be able to help with that).
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Painkiller
    Posts: 128 from 2007/11/19
    From: Nokia, Funland
    Why not a bounty for SAM440 :) that way OS4.1 people could have a way to test out MOS :D
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    mobydick
    Posts: 179 from 2004/2/26
    From: Mordor, capita...
    (Reading about Samantha... Serial ATA, USB2.0) May be?..
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Sir_Lucas
    Posts: 112 from 2006/4/23
    From: Poland
    It would be better to donate some hardwarde like G3/G4 iBooks, PowerBooks or MacMinis :-D as Cisc righly pointed out. :-D
  • »26.09.08 - 12:28
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  • MorphOS Developer
    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    Quote:

    so you would say that a Wii would be a siutable target for porting MorphOS to it?
    Is it really that open?


    Thanks to Team Twiizers the Wii is cracked wide open and thus is the most probable candidate among the current-gen consoles for a MorphOS port. There are some limitations though that makes it a less-than-optimal choice, like f.ex. resolution (though it might be able to tweak it beyond 480p/576i no-one has thus far figured out how), USB (apparently limited to 1.1 even though it's listed as 2.0 by Nintendo (this could just be a setup issue though, so could still be resolved)) and storage; 2GB SD (4GB with some rare cards) and only 512MB builtin NAND...

    Quote:

    What else beside the HW is needed to port MorphOS to the Wii?


    Time? :P


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    [ Edited by CISC on 2008/9/26 12:34 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 730 from 2003/2/24
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    @Jupp3

    You can play HDTV videos using the SPEs without problems. Examples:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_qnPNuul4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Wul8MLM6E
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2SWDGSU5ko

    Raytracing without RSX under Linux:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehwFOM4CBKA&feature=related

    3D Games running full screen without RSX, using SPE as scaler:
    Duke Nukem:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJxU98U07gQ

    Quake2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5hR32lcrYM

    Hexen2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyOCwZJXjL4&feature=related
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 730 from 2003/2/24
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    @CISC

    Wii is even more useless than PS3 since it only has 88MB of ram.

    A custom CGX driver shouldn't take so much. First version could be unaccelerated and the next ones could use the SPEs to speed up blitting and overlay stuff.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Painkiller
    Posts: 128 from 2007/11/19
    From: Nokia, Funland
    I suggested that to "some" dev and he said it would be a too time consuming task :) Maybe time wouldn't be suchs a big issue if we could come up with an big enough bounty :-D

    Oh and if every MOS dev would get a PS3 the development would propably halt as they would be too busy playing Super Stardust HD and Wipeout HD ;-)
    [ Edited by Painkiller on 2008/9/26 13:52 ]

    [ Edited by Painkiller on 2008/9/26 13:54 ]
  • »26.09.08 - 12:51
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1000 from 2004/9/23
    Anyone knows that I am Pro-Efika, but a WII with its even more limited in memory will be good for nothing you can't do with the Efika, too. In such cases it will just waste energie.

    The system may be faster, but you won't be able to run those programs which could need that speed boost.

    Blender, Quake 1+2, Robin Hood work fine on Efika, but on Wii you would simply run out of memory.

    The MAC is the only suitable hardware for porting, as its the only hardware thats faster, has more memory and full hardware acceleration support.

    Geit
  • »26.09.08 - 13:31
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    Quote:

    Wii is even more useless than PS3 since it only has 88MB of ram.


    That's plenty as long as you don't run 3dlayers or anything else fancy, it's not as if you'd expect a Wii to turn into your main computer, besides, I'm sure Painkiller would happily experiment soldering on some more RAM. :P

    Quote:

    A custom CGX driver shouldn't take so much. First version could be unaccelerated and the next ones could use the SPEs to speed up blitting and overlay stuff.


    No thanks (talk about complete waste of hardware (and electricity)).

    Anyway, funnily enough, minutes after my last post I saw news about the PS3 flash-encryption being broken and ppl being able to hack/degrade their PS3, this is great progress .. give it a few more months and if these guys have managed to run proper homebrew with full hw-access by then we can talk...

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 671 from 2006/5/28
    From: Germany
    no PS3. it would be a lot better to bring it to several mac systems, like a Powerbook or ibook. a PowerMac G5 Version f.ex would be pretty nice and HD Video playback would work just like a charm.
    Pegasos II G4 @1.0GHz, 1GB DDR Ram, Radeon 9200Pro, 160GB+500GB HD, MorphOS 3.13, AmigaOS4.1 FE, MacOS X Panther 10.3.9, Debian 8
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 631 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    i would also think that a Powerbook or ibook port would make more sense than any "next-generation" console (PS3, Wii, XBox360. CD32, Colecovision etc.) support.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    Quote:

    The system may be faster, but you won't be able to run those programs which could need that speed boost.


    There are plenty of things that require more raw CPU power and bus-speed than they do memory, MPlayer being a very good example (though H.264 can eat a bit)...


    - CISC
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
    From: Padova - Italy
    I think that focusing in one port is the best thing to do when the "core developer" are so limited in number like in MorphOs ...
    So, go for Mac port, it'll be a very good xmas present for many people! :-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    CountRaven
    Posts: 566 from 2007/12/11
    From: Greece
    Quote:

    Why not a bounty for SAM440 :) that way OS4.1 people could have a way to test out MOS :D


    MorphOS on Samantha? It will be great count me in for that.
  • »26.09.08 - 13:49
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    JohnFante
    Posts: 156 from 2006/9/4
    From: Copenhagen
    Agree 100% regarding MacMinis. Minis are going for around 200? for a complete system theese days. It should be possible to collect money for a couple of theese - at least.

    Not to flame anything - just courious: Is there anything with the IP of MorphOS that stops it from beeing ported?



    [ Edited by JohnFante on 2008/9/26 12:50 ]
  • »26.09.08 - 13:49
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