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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    You know, I don't think there are 50-100 of us willing to prepay for a place at the table.
    I like the idea, but I am not that practical when it comes to my interests.

    AND...if there were 50-100 of us willing to go there, we'd be spending a lot of money to further distance ourselves from our current hardware.

    Nice pipe dream, but...
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  • »04.05.16 - 00:29
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  • vox
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    vox
    Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25
    From: Belgrade
    Quote:

    redrumloa wrote:
    Now this is something I'd consider dropping some serious scratch on for PPC, if we were staying PPC. A much, much better value than A-Eonkit's offerings.



    Agreed, however neither AROS, MorphOS or AmigaOS 4 support it.

    However, Linux support is great.

    IF we only could do MOS and OS4 ports, that would give us much better future.
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  • »04.05.16 - 00:45
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > IF we only could do MOS and OS4 ports, that would give us much better future.

    From a year ago:

    "I actually wrote the MorphOS team asking to join in; I would love to begin working on porting it to Power8 now that there is reference platform hardware available. FWIW, I have worked closely with or befriended OS developers ranging from OpenBSD, FreeBSD, PCBSD (I was part of wheel for pcbsd.org), OS X, newos, BeOS, iOS, WebOS, Windows, Debian and Ubuntu. [...] if you know any on the MorphOS team; I really, really want to help move that project forward into the future. I can find many ways to get a paycheck, but I would rather be doing so working on a project that I love!"
    https://jonlennartaasenden.wordpress.com/2015/05/15/amiga-programmer-looking-for-work/#comments

    ;-)
  • »12.06.16 - 01:27
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    "Partner Chip POWER8/9"

    So...there IS a path forward with PPC.
    And its not Freescale/NXP, its with the originator of the PowerPC (or its partners).
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  • »11.09.16 - 14:27
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    Update:

    >>>> Raptor Engineering Inc. pre-announces Talos, an OpenPOWER ATX workstation
    >>>> mainboard for 3100 USD. [...]
    >>>> http://www.raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease.php

    >>> Reduced to 3000 USD.

    >> Raised to 3700 USD.

    > board will also be available without CPU for 2700 USD (i.e. stock CPU is 1000 USD)

    Raised to 5300 USD. The board will also be available without CPU for 4000 USD (i.e. stock CPU is 1300 USD).
  • »13.09.16 - 11:27
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    ...Raised to 5300 USD. The board will also be available without CPU for 4000 USD (i.e. stock CPU is 1300 USD).


    Where is he link for that?
    It does place the board outside anything I'd consider.
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  • »13.09.16 - 11:52
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
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    > Where is he link for that?

    In the quoted part of the comment you just replied to :-)
  • »13.09.16 - 14:05
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Where is he link for that?

    In the quoted part of the comment you just replied to :-)


    OMFG - That isn't reasonable. That just makes the Tyan systems look more attractive, although the height of the enclosures would increase the difficulty of adding a video card.
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  • »13.09.16 - 16:27
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
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    > That just makes the Tyan systems look more attractive, although the height
    > of the enclosures would increase the difficulty of adding a video card.

    Yes, the 2U height would require a low-profile card.
  • »13.09.16 - 21:02
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > That just makes the Tyan systems look more attractive, although the height
    > of the enclosures would increase the difficulty of adding a video card.

    Yes, the 2U height would require a low-profile card.


    Not if you installed it in an alternate case, but that would be a PITA. Still, there are some nice Radeon 7750 half height cards.

    Hey remember I pm'd you a few days ago about asking for a price quote from Tyan's distributor?
    Lisa still hasn't gotten back to me with that.


    [ Edited by Jim 13.09.2016 - 18:09 ]
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  • »13.09.16 - 21:07
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 874 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    I've been experimenting this week trying to get WarpOS working with WinUAE, trying to get xpkBZIP.library working for a benchmark I was putting together for preparation of a wikipedia page on xpk I was putting together (but which was rejected for lack of references.)

    (I'd sort of got WarpOS working, although it was flaky and tended to work differently between reboots. And I couldn't get P96 working with it, even with PIV emulation and so on.)

    But as I put my UAE image back to how it was so that powerpc.library wasn't crashing it when I'd switched PPC emulation off, I began thinking of how long it would take WinUAE/QEmu to get it right when the thought struck me:

    Why?

    Most PPC software isn't necessary any more. The PPC games on Amiga can all be found on other platforms, or run on 68k. Most of MorphOS' better software comes with MorphOS. And the situation isn't any better on OS4. I can't even preserve Amiga stuff like xpk on wikipedia because there are literally zero non-forum third party references to draw on.

    I'm still wondering how you guys think any more than six people will go out and buy a mega-expensive PPC system to go run Amiga NG on.

    [ Edited by KennyR 30.04.2019 - 10:11 ]
  • »30.04.19 - 09:07
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
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    > I'm still wondering how you guys think any more than six people will
    > go out and buy a mega-expensive PPC system to go run Amiga NG on.

    Six people were apparently enough for the MorphOS team to port MorphOS to Sam460 and Cyrus/X5000 (and for Hyperion to port OS4 to Sam460, Nemo/X1000 and Cyrus/X5000). So why not POWER9 then? ;-) One of the problems I see is that ACube and A-Eon provided free development boards/systems, which I don't see happening with Raptor (at least for non-OSS operating systems).
  • »30.04.19 - 11:29
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