MorphOS 3.0
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2992 from 2003/3/5
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    So will MorphOS 3.0 be a free update?


    Yes, the update will work with MorphOS 2 keyfiles.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
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    and when we enjoy the new MorphOS?
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    SoundSquare
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    and when we enjoy the new MorphOS?


    when it's done.
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    Templario,
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    and when we enjoy the new MorphOS?


    In two weeks.

    [ Edited by Jim 30.04.2012 - 08:47 ]
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    Jim, accent these two weeks, as he couldn't get the joke :-P
  • »30.04.12 - 09:06
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  • Jim
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    Tarnak,
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    Jim, accent these two weeks, as he couldn't get the joke :-P


    Sorry, I forgot he was new.
    A standard Amiga oriented joke.
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    klesterjr
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    Just won a 1.67ghz Powerbook on eBay.

    Just sayin' ;-)
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    itix
    Posts: 1516 from 2003/2/24
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    Good win ;-)
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
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    Zylesea
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    Jim,
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    In two weeks.

    The original term is "two more weeks" IIRC.

    Anyway, it seems 3.0 is probably not far off now, Piru said something about finalizing and there are also some other indicators (Andreas provids a few links regarding that), that 3.0 wil be out rather soon. Whether it will be tomorrow or in 2-3 months is a detail, but I suspect that's the actual timeframe we should expect something (I'd be surprised if August 1st wil still be 3.0 less). I can be wrong though and for sure I wouldn't bet my house on that time frame, but a tener I would easily risk.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 536 from 2012/4/28
    Perfect, thank you for the info, I'll waiting for the Update 5... for OS4 :-P

    [ Editado por Templario 30.04.2012 - 21:15 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ausPPC
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    I have a PowerBook waiting for 3.0 It has OS X installed on it but seldom gets any use. The few times I have used it I've noticed how warm it gets. The cpu must be running quite hot - is the operating frequency (and hopefully heat output) controllable via software?
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2992 from 2003/3/5
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    @ausPPC

    If you've only launched OSX on it a few times, I'd imagine it was indexing your hd for Spotlight. That would of course make it quite warm indeed.

    The CPU in PowerBooks has a DFS2 mode which lets it run at half the nominal clock. That in conjunction with NAP mode makes the PowerBook really cool when idle. MorphOS of course makes use of both those features. It also monitors the temperature and controls fan speed accordingly.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > The CPU in PowerBooks has a DFS2 mode which lets it run at half the
    > nominal clock. That in conjunction with NAP mode makes the PowerBook
    > really cool when idle. MorphOS of course makes use of both those features.

    That's nice to hear. Does "MorphOS" here mean "MorphOS 3.0" or "MorphOS 3.x"? :-) I ask because at Alchimie this feature was said to come only after MorphOS 3.0.
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    MaveRickPL
    Posts: 73 from 2009/12/31
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    U R in good place to test heat and overheat in PB with MOS 3.0 ;)
    Now we know whay U R there :P Becouse of MorphOS :]
    MacMini & MorphOS
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    osco
    Posts: 680 from 2009/10/21
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    Do Powerbooks have a hardware or software issues with power management and heat sensors?
    :-?
    Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 1G, 250G Drive, Apple Cinema Display, MorphOS 3.1 registered, MacOS 10 PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 80G Drive,........Waiting
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2992 from 2003/3/5
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    @Andreas_Wolf

    NAP is used in MorphOS since the Mac mini release (to prevent it from burning through your desk and falling onto the floor ;) DFS2 support was added months ago, before Alchimie, so perhaps something got lost in translation there.

    @MaveRickPL

    We live in 240 x 210 cm rooms. 40W light bulb, a PowerBook, Technics amp, 24'' LCD, a Quad Core PC, VHF radio with a big stabilized PSU and you can't get below +26°C on a calm, sunny day.

    @osco

    Issues? I'd say most common failures related to heat would be the fans and old thermal grease between CPU/GPU/NB and the heatsink.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > NAP is used in MorphOS since the Mac mini release

    I know. My question was only referring to DFS support. My bad, as I wasn't clear enough on this.

    > DFS2 support was added months ago, before Alchimie, so perhaps
    > something got lost in translation there.

    Fab's slides contain the following statement in orange colour, i.e. planned for only after MorphOS 3.0:

    "Gestion contrôlée de l'énergie de différents composants en fonction des capteurs et préférences utilisateur (vitesse du processeur [...])"

    ...which Google translates into:

    "Controlled management of the energy of different components depending on the sensors and user preferences (processor speed [...])"

    So if DFS support had already been implemented in MorphOS before Alchimie, then what's the feature mentioned in the slide for MorphOS after 3.0 referring to? Or is it just that Fab missed to colour it green?
  • »01.05.12 - 16:14
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2992 from 2003/3/5
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    Technically, a user prefs module was developed literally yesterday :)
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    stephen_robinson
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    ausPPC,
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    Hot Hot Powerbooks


    I find mine runs cool under OSX, until a flash animation, or even more bizarrely an animated gif* causes 100% CPU load and it's beachball a-go-go. Given my experience with a Macmini and powermac, MorphOS will run much cooler..

    * http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/1vlw-4d856b01ecdfd0d344897a03f438a7bf.gif?w=400&h=264 will bring my Powermac 1.67Ghz with 2 GB of ram to it's knees.

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson 02.05.2012 - 04:30 ]
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    _ThEcRoW
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    VHF radio?. Are you a HAM?.
    :)
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > VHF radio?. Are you a HAM?. :)

    The location he stated below his profile picture might give you a hint :-)
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    _ThEcRoW
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    lol!. It makes sense...
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Andreas_Wolf,
    Quote:


    So if DFS support had already been implemented in MorphOS before Alchimie, then what's the feature mentioned in the slide for MorphOS after 3.0 referring to? Or is it just that Fab missed to colour it green?


    As the orginal release was expected the best part of 6 months ago, it's not unreasonable to assume they may have added more to 3.0 since then.
  • »02.05.12 - 07:49
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
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    Technically, a user prefs module was developed literally yesterday :)


    Cool, I guess this would mean one step closer to the goal! :-)

    (BTW, would it be correct to say that MorphOS (or at least some tiny part thereof) was developed in Antarctica? :-P ;-))
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    >> So if DFS support had already been implemented in MorphOS before
    >> Alchimie, then what's the feature mentioned in the slide for MorphOS
    >> after 3.0 referring to? Or is it just that Fab missed to colour it green?

    > As the orginal release was expected the best part of 6 months ago, it's
    > not unreasonable to assume they may have added more to 3.0 since then.

    What my question was about is that said feature was already planned for only after 3.0 (according to Fab's slide) when it had already been implemented (according to jacadcaps). Preponing a feature from 3.1+ to 3.0 because 3.0 takes longer than expected wouldn't explain this.
    What's an explanation though is jacadcaps' statement that Fab's slide doesn't necessarily refer to DFS support per se but to a user prefs module for DFS, which of course could have been planned for a later release than DFS support.
  • »02.05.12 - 09:32
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