2025 - your expectations
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    Kronos
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    zukow wrote:
    MDD has 2xcpu setup also


    So?

    Do you really want to support yet another binary format for 32bit "SMP" PPC?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Kronos wrote:
    So?

    Do you really want to support yet another binary format for 32bit "SMP" PPC?


    I thought, that binary formats for 32-bit single thread and SMP are the same. It differs "only" in kernel, which support or not supports SMP ( or other multiprocessor system ).
    Applications written for SMP can benefits from more hw threads, but overall system performance is increased even for old ( single-thread ) applications.

    As I know, binary format differs between 32-bit and 64-architectures, not SMP/noSMP.
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    @sailor

    There is a reason why I wrote "SMP" and not SMP....

    Amiga/MorphOS APIs are incompatible with real SMP, so any multi CPU design would need to live outside of it.
    At minimum like PowerUp modules or at an extreme running the ABox hosted on a modern OS.

    Now sure one could come up with away where those SMP-modules could simply run alongside the ABox in single CPU systems but that would restrict them to 32bit negating one of the benefits that would make such modules interesting.

    So given the limited resources and they need to build/distribute SW for every supported variant I simply see no point in doing anything like that for 32Bit PPC, even with 64Bit PPC it's still debatable.
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    And about my 2025 expectations:

    - in first place (of course) bigfoot's Big TinyGL upgrade should be great.
    - and maybe something from my several times repeated wishlist:

    -- MorphOS:
    .support for CD/DVD connected via USB ( CDDA, ATAPI, boot*.img support for CD filesystem )
    .SATA2 Promise driver to boot.img
    .basic support for graphics cards TeraScale3 ( fastest PPC linux ) or CGN1/4 ( fastest AmigaOS )
    .PCIe temperature measuring in Thermal screenbar module
    .virtual memory, any system ( mainly for Efika )
    .of course above mentioned SMP ( or any MP ) + PPC 64 support ;-)
    .not swap to X86_64, if new architecture is really needed take ARM, RISC-V or something other non-mainstream. For me MorphOS is hobby, not linux/windows alternative
    .X1000, A1222 support ( yes I read morphosdev comments about P1022 CPU ) ;-)

    -- Mac Mini G4:
    .temperature measuring in Thermal screenbar module
    -- Sam460LE:
    .support for PCIe cards with onboard PCIe-PCI bridge - like C-Media CMI8738, Envy24HT
    -- Pegasos 2:
    .sata.device ( PCI SATA ) recognize UDMA6, and has S.M.A.R.T feature
    -- Efika 5200b:
    .support for 2nd ATA device
    .DMA for ATA ( DMA assisted PIO or something similar ) ide.device - this is not real wish, it is really too much development effort for very small user base.

    P.S. it is my wishlist, I know that some points are not real.

    [ Edited by sailor 09.01.2025 - 09:37 ]
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    Kronos wrote:
    @sailor

    There is a reason why I wrote "SMP" and not SMP....

    Amiga/MorphOS APIs are incompatible with real SMP, so any multi CPU design would need to live outside of it.
    At minimum like PowerUp modules or at an extreme running the ABox hosted on a modern OS.

    Now sure one could come up with away where those SMP-modules could simply run alongside the ABox in single CPU systems but that would restrict them to 32bit negating one of the benefits that would make such modules interesting.

    So given the limited resources and they need to build/distribute SW for every supported variant I simply see no point in doing anything like that for 32Bit PPC, even with 64Bit PPC it's still debatable.

    thanks for explanation
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    Dricus wrote: ... What kind of new software are you looking for? Perhaps you can give some ideas.
    Well, some form of office suite would be nice. There were thoughts of converting Libre Office, but that seems to be a big project, but maybe you're capable of taking that on? If not possible, then maybe as a start, some really good wordprocessor, with good graphics handling/import/editing would be where to begin, with all the usual capabilities such as Cut, Paste, Copy, and Font handling for True/Open Type Font support.

    If you were thinking of smaller software projects where do you have expertise, in which area of software or hardware?

    For 2025 ...

    I'd like to see better support for DVDRW-Dual Layer disc authoring. I know this has been thought of by some as a waste of effort, but as we don't have Blu-Ray disc support then DVDR-DL would be the best we could have with the current hardware, and I would find the additional recordable disc storage space to be definitely a benefit. Also support for Mac formatted discs as sometimes there is data on them that can be used on MorphOS systems, though on a Dual-Boot MorphOS/Mac system you can boot to the Mac OS and access the disc from there, but it would be so much easier to be able to access it without having to do so. Amiga's CD file system used to be able to access Mac "Classic" CDs even though it used the HFS disc format, but it doesn't seem to have this option so it doesn't work on MorphOS AFAIK? :-(

    I'd also like to see the "printers" issues fixed, as trying to print some page(s) out only to get issues with the prints is really annoying ... and a waste of paper! ;-)
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    >> multicore [...] (G5 and X5000 only)

    > MDD has 2xcpu setup also

    ...as well as variants of almost all other PowerMac G4 models (Gigabit, Digital Audio, Quicksilver (2002), FW800). Even the Sawtooth can be made dual-G4 with 3rd party CPU cards.
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    Kronos wrote:
    @Crumb

    "Expectations" or wishlist?



    we saw x86-64 version working a few years ago, It wouldn't be so strange.

    Quote:



    - HW video decoding
    Doubt that makes much sense when the majority of users are still on R200/300 cards (well mostly onboard)



    It makes no sense to upgrade if there's no support. Following your logic we would still be using a500 without mem expansion because there's no need to upgrade as most users have a500 and not ppcs with morphos.

    If Bigfoot adds more shader support It will probably be possible to have access to It using more modern graphic cards. AFAIK OS4 has a player that uses GPU to decode video. You can add RadeonHD PCI cards even to peg1. Supporting more hardware is not bad for existing users, It's a positive reason to upgrade, not an issue.

    Quote:


    - multicore
    Pretty much the same thing as above (G5 and X5000 only) and depending on the implementation it could be limited even on most of those. Also adding another binary format for a dead end platform does not sound good.



    Powermac g4/g5, x5000 and future x86-64 would benefit from It. You don't need a new binary format, you'll need to upgrade your applications so these uses async processes and to use updated libraries that support AMP. It makes sense for reggae for example and probably for number crunching applications that don't interact with the OS. With single core cpus It will be yet another process, just like now.

    Read Krashan comments in this thread:
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8831&forum=11#95838

    Quote:


    - AMD64
    Sure everyone wants that, but big-endian AMD64-31bit apps are a must to get any reasonable performance.



    Even if emulated It would be much better to have MorphOS running on cpus from 5 years ago than going to the dumpster to find 20 year old macs. A pitiful rpi4 runs m68k code more or less like the fastest g5. The x86-64 "native" binaries can be included in the operating system and the team can avoid releasing the x86-64 sdk just in case they decide to modify the binary format. But users will enjoy some native apps from MorphOS team like Iris/Wayfarer/MPlayer and libraries. Emulated PPC apps will use the "native" bigendian x86-64 31bit libs while the MorphOS team works on MorphOS4.0.


    Quote:


    - 64bit PPC
    See "multicore"


    AROS does It. Compatibility with old apps wouldn't be expected. It could be a good starting point to move drivers and low level stuff to the qbox and perhaps have abox32 and abox64 running in parallel and communicate through qbox.
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    @Crumb

    >>we saw x86-64 version working a few years ago, It wouldn't be so strange.

    Sure but how realistic is it to expect a (public) release this year? (take a look at the topic of this thread)


    >>It makes no sense to upgrade if there's no support. Following your logic we would still be using a500
    >>without mem expansion because there's no need to upgrade as most users have a500 and not ppcs with morphos.

    Again "wishes" vs "expectations".
    Most current users are on PowerBooks, MacMini (+a few iMac) were a GPU upgrade is impossible and others are on AGP based systems where such upgrades are an issue. RadeonHD-AGP on G5 seems to be hit and miss, PMac G4 even worse (I couldn't get it to work) Pegasos impossible (they all seemed to keyed for AGP3.0). PCI cards do exist but would be expensive and slow.

    Sure could be done, but should it really be a priority?


    >>Powermac g4/g5, x5000 and future x86-64 would benefit from It. You don't need a new binary format,
    >>you'll need to upgrade your applications so these uses async processes and to use updated libraries
    >>that support AMP. It makes sense for reggae for example and probably for number crunching applications
    >>that don't interact with the OS. With single core cpus It will be yet another process, just like now.

    Most important rule here: no half measures
    As in everything done in that direction needs to be done in a way it won't create extra hassle down the line.
    Sure you could do it in a way that allows such threads to just run alongside ABox, but what would be the gain?
    You'd still be limited to 2GB of RAM (maybe it'll kinda work with 4GB on G5/X5000) and most G4 users won't see any performance increase on their single CPU systems. But you did create yet another API that needs to be supported in future updates.

    So no any "SMP" API needs to be fully 64Bit and have some "modern" features like memory protection.
    If those can run on the same core as the ABox, nice. If not you have further restricted the user base, and even this user base would only get limited performance gains.


    >>Even if emulated It would be much better to have MorphOS running on cpus from 5 years
    >>ago than going to the dumpster to find 20 year old macs. A pitiful rpi4 runs m68k code more
    >>or less like the fastest g5.

    Apart form Apple's Rosetta all PPC EMU range from bad to dumpsterfire, so unless the team puts a lot of work in it will not reach good performance even on fastest Zen5 core.


    >>AROS does It. Compatibility with old apps wouldn't be expected.
    No half measures !!!


    If the team decides to really go for AMD it needs to be sensible with it's limited resources. I mean it boils down to about 5 guys who could any of these lower level tasks.

    As such any work on PPC should only be done if it can be easily be transferred over to AMD.

    My list of priority (which is just the rambling of a guy who won't be doing any of it):

    - get the old demo into a useable state even if on super specific HW
    - expand that HW support to a whole class of CPUs and motherboards (1st beta may appear here)
    - get non essential onboard stuff working (USB3, NVME, Sound etc)
    - define basic APIs for "SMP" and 64bit
    - push basic support for newer GPU cores (any APU would be the long term goal here)
    - create "user" API on the 64bit side allowing for pure QBox apps
    - select specific laptops for full support (we are way in the future here)

    Upgrades to the PPC ABox would still be made by developers outside the "kernel group".

    If on the other hand AMD is silently cancelled, then sure go nuts on obscure PPC stuff.
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    sailor schrieb:

    .....

    -- Efika 5200b:
    .support for 2nd ATA device
    .DMA for ATA ( DMA assisted PIO or something similar ) ide.device - this is not real wish, it is really too much development effort for very small user base.




    It would be very nice if 2nd-IDE-channel could be activated (can use eg. ide-cdrom then....)
    And USB should be reworked - it always crashes EFIKA during copying many files......

    And of course, virtual memory
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    @Amigaharry2

    AFAIR maximum cable length for IDE on the EFIKA is 0.
    Read all attempts to just move the HD failed on a HW level.

    USB issues might also be on HW level, but....

    I realized that copying many files from Shell works fine, while doing it in Ambient fails.

    Not 100% sure why and while it is something I might be able to fix (or at least investigate further), it is just not at the top of my priority.
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    Kronos wrote:
    @Amigaharry2

    AFAIR maximum cable length for IDE on the EFIKA is 0.
    Read all attempts to just move the HD failed on a HW level.

    USB issues might also be on HW level, but....

    I realized that copying many files from Shell works fine, while doing it in Ambient fails.

    Not 100% sure why and while it is something I might be able to fix (or at least investigate further), it is just not at the top of my priority.



    There are dual CF adapters, I don't know if there are ide-sata adapters with two ports (I haven't seen any)

    Years ago I reported that when you played a sound or ann mp3 and switched screens quickly the sound went bonkers and It started playing like "Andy and the chipmunks", perhaps something related to interrupt handling? I also noticed that in the first MorphOS versions the devices disconnected and you had to unplug and plug them back again and that in the next ones It crashed. I did a small program to test It.

    Code:

    #include <stdio.h>
    #include <stdlib.h>
    #include <proto/asl.h>
    #include <libraries/asl.h>
    #include <proto/intuition.h>
    #ifdef __MORPHOS__
    #include <ppcinline/intuition.h>
    #endif
    #include <intuition/screens.h>
    #include <graphics/gfxmacros.h>
    #include <graphics/displayinfo.h>
    #include <graphics/gfxmacros.h>
    #include <graphics/displayinfo.h>

    struct Library *AslBase=NULL;
    struct IntuitionBase *IntuitionBase=NULL;
    struct ScreenModeRequester *modo1 = NULL,*modo2 = NULL;
    struct Screen *pantalla1 = NULL,*pantalla2 = NULL;

    struct TagItem pantallatags1[] =
    {
    ASLSM_TitleText, (ULONG)"Make Alvin happy",
    ASLSM_DoOverscanType, FALSE,
    ASLSM_DoWidth, TRUE,
    ASLSM_DoHeight, TRUE,
    ASLSM_DoAutoScroll, TRUE,
    ASLSM_InitialAutoScroll,TRUE,
    ASLSM_MinWidth, 639,
    ASLSM_MinHeight, 400,
    ASLSM_MinDepth, 8,
    ASLSM_InitialDisplayWidth,640,
    ASLSM_InitialDisplayHeight,480,
    ASLSM_InitialDisplayDepth,8,
    ASLSM_InitialOverscanType, 0,
    TAG_DONE
    };


    struct TagItem pantallatags2[] =
    {
    ASLSM_TitleText, (ULONG)"and the chipmunks too!",
    ASLSM_DoOverscanType, FALSE,
    ASLSM_DoWidth, TRUE,
    ASLSM_DoHeight, TRUE,
    ASLSM_DoAutoScroll, TRUE,
    ASLSM_InitialAutoScroll,TRUE,
    ASLSM_MinWidth, 799,
    ASLSM_MinHeight, 599,
    ASLSM_MinDepth, 8,
    ASLSM_InitialDisplayWidth,800,
    ASLSM_InitialDisplayHeight,600,
    ASLSM_InitialDisplayDepth,8,
    ASLSM_InitialOverscanType, 0,
    TAG_DONE
    };

    int main(int argc, char **argv){
    BOOL kaka=FALSE;
    int i=0;

    printf("Invoking Alvin and the chipmunks! (leave a mp3 player playing and later launch this, choose 2 different resolutions. Check out if Alvin appearsn");

    if (!(IntuitionBase=OpenLibrary("intuition.library",34)))
    {
    printf("Damn! Alvin can't find asl.library!n");
    goto end;
    }

    if (!(AslBase=OpenLibrary("asl.library",38)))
    {
    printf("Damn! Alvin can't find asl.library!n");
    goto end;
    }

    if ((modo1=AllocAslRequest(ASL_ScreenModeRequest,NULL))==NULL)
    {
    printf("Error: Alvin can't open the f*cking screenrequestern");
    }
    else
    {
    kaka=AslRequest(modo1,pantallatags1);

    pantalla1=OpenScreenTags(NULL,
    SA_ShowTitle, FALSE,
    SA_Title,"Alvin...",
    SA_DisplayID,modo1->sm_DisplayID,
    SA_Depth,modo1->sm_DisplayDepth,
    SA_Width,modo1->sm_DisplayWidth,
    SA_Height,modo1->sm_DisplayHeight,
    SA_Overscan,modo1->sm_OverscanType,
    SA_AutoScroll,FALSE,
    TAG_DONE);
    }

    if ((modo2=AllocAslRequest(ASL_ScreenModeRequest,NULL))==NULL)
    {
    printf("Error: Alvin can't open the f*cking screenrequestern");
    }
    else
    {
    kaka=AslRequest(modo2,pantallatags2);

    pantalla2=OpenScreenTags(NULL,
    SA_ShowTitle, FALSE,
    SA_Title," ...and the Chipmunks",
    SA_DisplayID,modo2->sm_DisplayID,
    SA_Depth,modo2->sm_DisplayDepth,
    SA_Width,modo2->sm_DisplayWidth,
    SA_Height,modo2->sm_DisplayHeight,
    SA_Overscan,modo2->sm_OverscanType,
    SA_AutoScroll,FALSE,
    TAG_DONE);
    }

    for(i=0;i<50;i++){
    ScreenToFront(pantalla1);
    printf(".");
    ScreenToFront(pantalla2);
    printf(".");
    }

    end:
    if (pantalla1) CloseScreen(pantalla1);
    if (pantalla2) CloseScreen(pantalla2);
    if (AslBase) CloseLibrary(AslBase);
    if (IntuitionBase) CloseLibrary(IntuitionBase);


    }
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Kronos wrote:
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    AFAIR maximum cable length for IDE on the EFIKA is 0.
    Read all attempts to just move the HD failed on a HW level.



    Efika is REALLY CAPABLE of two ide devices !
    Cable should be max. 5cm with crossed pairs, must be with additional power. Disks should be configured with Master/Slave, not Cable select.
    I tested it and it works on firmware level. Unfortunatelly, MorphOS has no support for second device.

    Please, look to this article Efika5200b in 2021 - part5. It is in Czech language.
    Here is two devices on Efika IDE, and list of partitions of both devices in OpenFirmware.

    This was discussed also on Morph.zone

    [ Edited by sailor 10.01.2025 - 12:35 ]
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    sailor wrote:
    max. 5cm


    O.k. and what would be the practical use case for this?
    Not even enough to route a CF-adapter to the front of the case and these days there is really no reason to have 2 HDD/SSDs.

    So, it could be done but it simply should not be done (unless someone is really really bored).
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    Kronos wrote:
    O.k. and what would be the practical use case for this?
    Not even enough to route a CF-adapter to the front of the case and these days there is really no reason to have 2 HDD/SSDs.

    So, it could be done but it simply should not be done (unless someone is really really bored).


    Main practical use is to connect DVD drive. And ( for example ) plays there old Music CDs.
    Or simply, utilized one more feature on low-power machine. Some sort of joy.


    Here is other Czech article, with story telling about Efika, overclocking, more RAM, inconsistencies on CPU, board and OS.
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
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    sailor wrote:

    Main practical use is to connect DVD drive. And ( for example ) plays there old Music CDs.



    With a 5cm cable?

    Sure maybe the SATA cable on an IDE-SATA adapter wouldn't count, but you'd still be flying pretty close to the sun with such a setup.

    And again, topic is "expectations" not "wish list" and surely not "obscure feature request that has 0 chance of happening".
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    sailor schrieb:
    .....
    I tested it and it works on firmware level. Unfortunatelly, MorphOS has no support for second device.
    ....

    Yes, that's the problem: I discussed that with F. Mariak some time ago. Maybe he will do it, if he will have some time left (but it has the lowest priority!, so you can imagine whether this will happen.....)

    Unix also allows both channels on Efika. In my case a IDE2CF with a ~8 cm cable works propper and stable (IDE2CF). Maybe buffered adapters (as used in A1200/600) will help for longer distances.
    BTW: Dual-IDE2CF converters will not work, because of leak of 2nd channel on ide-port........tested that! Works with Firmware/Linux, but not with MorpOS.

    @Kronos: USB: Yes, seems to be something wrong with Ambient! Works in most cases from shell and other file-browsers.....
    But if you have a huge amount of files (lets say more then 10K) EFIKA goes nevertheless after a while in a deep sleep and awakes only by rebooting.

    Very sad that EFIKA is treated so poor.

    Ok, back to topic!
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    @Amigaharry2
    please, what linux/unix do you use on your Efika?
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
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    Was a OEM-Bundle from National-Instuments with preinstalled QNX. I think EFIKA was part of the NI USB 6009 Data Aquisition Device.
    I bought only the EFIKA. Unfortunately the installation went corrupt, when my internal IDE-HD dies some years ago....(and I did'nt make a safety-copy - I know: shame on me...)

    But you'll find other Linux-installations (Debian) here: https://www.efika.de/
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
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    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Was a OEM-Bundle from National-Instuments with preinstalled QNX. I think EFIKA was part of the NI USB 6009 Data Aquisition Device.
    I bought only the EFIKA. Unfortunately the installation went corrupt, when my internal IDE-HD dies some years ago....(and I did'nt make a safety-copy - I know: shame on me...)

    But you'll find other Linux-installations (Debian) here: https://www.efika.de/



    Thank you, I was curious if somebody used other distro than Debian 5 or 6.
    Oh, it is a pitty that QNX is done. I never tried QNX.
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    Kronos wrote:
    And again, topic is "expectations" not "wish list" and surely not "obscure feature request that has 0 chance of happening".

    I am sorry, I know, there's an expectations in topic.
    But in truth, expectation in this case means joyful anticipation. Almost the same as a wish list. And the first post says "hopes and dreams" too.

    Besides, what's the point of expecting or wishing for things that are sure to happen? Not big sense, such things allways happen. I prefer to expect those things that will make me happy, even if the chances of them are less. And if the thing where there was 0 chance of happening, the joy is also the greatest.

    So once again, i apologies for the wish list, but I guess it's understandable. So please, let me have the dreams. My dreams have a rational core and moreover I know they may not come true.
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    Well none of the "expectations" mentioned here are set in stone, we might get a different set, we might get them in 2026 or even never.

    As for pie-in-the-sky EFIKA upgrades:

    - ability to use the 2nd 128MB bank of a 256MB Radeon9250 as "slow" RAM
    - PCI extender, even just a 2nd slot for a USB2/SATA combo card would really fix the I/O issues

    Not gonna happen......
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    Posts: 408 from 2019/5/9
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    Kronos wrote:
    @sailor

    Well none of the "expectations" mentioned here are set in stone, we might get a different set, we might get them in 2026 or even never.

    As for pie-in-the-sky EFIKA upgrades:

    - ability to use the 2nd 128MB bank of a 256MB Radeon9250 as "slow" RAM
    - PCI extender, even just a 2nd slot for a USB2/SATA combo card would really fix the I/O issues

    Not gonna happen......


    yes, especially use of one 128MB of graphics memory is exactly such nice pie-in-the-sky!
    I like such pies. And, I'm old enough that I've seen some things that can never happen. ;-)

    [ Edited by sailor 11.01.2025 - 14:19 ]
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