[GENERAL] Optimisation of network on MorphOS
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    Papiosaur
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    Hi all,

    suitable to this answer from Piru on Wayfarer thread:

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    Piru a écrit :
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    wicknix wrote:
    However browsers on PPC Linux smoke Wayfarer in page loading times.


    I believe this is mostly due to Linux being far more capable in networking in general. MorphOS TCP/IP stack does have some serious performance issues. This problem has been known for a long time but the root cause isn't easy to figure out. It could be the network drivers, the SANA2 interface between the drivers and TCP/IP stack, or the TCP/IP stack itself, or any combination of above.

    [ Edited by Piru 03.12.2022 - 22:48 ]


    I think it will be good for MorphOS users to have a fixed network.

    Maybe open a github and ask help from others developpers (from AmigaOS4 and AROS?) ?

    Open a bounty for that ?

    I think for example Wifi work better on Powerbook with a PCMCIA card, maybe the problem come with network drivers for Apple computer? Just an idea to help the schmilblik in french :-)

    [ Edité par Papiosaur 04.12.2022 - 17:23 ]

    [ Edité par Papiosaur 04.12.2022 - 17:37 ]
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    matt3
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    Awesome idea!

    I would put money into:

    Improved smbfs
    Improved network
    Add onboard nic on PCIe PowerMacs
    Add 2.5 gbe adapter for MorphOS.

    [ Edited by matt3 04.12.2022 - 11:54 ]
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    Did someone benchmark wlan against AmigaOs 4?
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    weiseb78 wrote:
    Did someone benchmark wlan against AmigaOs 4?


    There's nothing on OS4 that would push the stack as hard as Wayfarer does and I don't think it would be easy to even to make something.
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    Wayfarer not push TCP stack too much, because main brake here CPU power for javascript, CSS,...
    TCP stack speed is critical with unencrypted FTP and other simple transfers.

    Good bechmark of plain TCP stack is TCPSpeed. Unfortunatelly I have no computer with wlan.
    I can only test both systems on 100 MbE Pegasos 2, but it has no sense, because both systems result here is cca 90 Mbps - i.e. NIC cannot do more.
    Unfortunatelly AmigaOS have no driver for 1 GbE on Pegasos, MorphOS has here 209 Mbps.

    Maybe Sam460 or X5000 owners can check that.
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    Piru
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    It not entirely clear where the performance issues originate, and thus assigning bounty for fixing them is difficult. I'm not dismissing this entirely, but merely pointing out this complication.
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    matt3 wrote:
    I would put money into:
    Improved smbfs

    Yeees, I agree. I would like to have SMBv2 in MorphOS.
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    Papiosaur
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    Piru a écrit :
    It not entirely clear where the performance issues originate, and thus assigning bounty for fixing them is difficult. I'm not dismissing this entirely, but merely pointing out this complication.


    @Piru: maybe MorphOS Team could release source code of:

    - TCP-IP stack
    - SANA-2 interface
    - network drivers (RJ45, Wifi, Gigabit, etc...)

    on one Github project named "Improve network on MorphOS" (for example)

    and contact developers if they could help for global project or improve just one item (and why not add support for others network drivers)

    Maybe it will be a good solution to improve the network on MorphOS.



    [ Edité par Papiosaur 06.12.2022 - 07:49 ]
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    matt3
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    I look to the MorphOS Team to see if any/all of these make sense to start a bounty for?

    Improved smbfs
    Improved network
    Add onboard nic on PCIe PowerMacs
    Add 2.5 gbe adapter for MorphOS.
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    matt3 schrieb:
    I look to the MorphOS Team to see if any/all of these make sense to start a bounty for?

    Improved smbfs
    Improved network
    Add onboard nic on PCIe PowerMacs
    Add 2.5 gbe adapter for MorphOS.


    Well, we are looking into some of the aspects internally already, especially the improved smbfs which will most likely be based on LGPL libsmb2 and the onboard nic for PCIe PowerMacs - no target date for any of this yet, though.
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    ernsteiswuerfel
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    cyfm schrieb:
    [...] and the onboard nic for PCIe PowerMacs - no target date for any of this yet, though.


    Yay, that would be great! :-)
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