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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5
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    NAP is used in MorphOS since the Mac mini release (to prevent it from burning through your desk and falling onto the floor ;) DFS2 support was added months ago, before Alchimie, so perhaps something got lost in translation there.

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    Issues? I'd say most common failures related to heat would be the fans and old thermal grease between CPU/GPU/NB and the heatsink.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12162 from 2003/5/22
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    > NAP is used in MorphOS since the Mac mini release

    I know. My question was only referring to DFS support. My bad, as I wasn't clear enough on this.

    > DFS2 support was added months ago, before Alchimie, so perhaps
    > something got lost in translation there.

    Fab's slides contain the following statement in orange colour, i.e. planned for only after MorphOS 3.0:

    "Gestion contrôlée de l'énergie de différents composants en fonction des capteurs et préférences utilisateur (vitesse du processeur [...])"

    ...which Google translates into:

    "Controlled management of the energy of different components depending on the sensors and user preferences (processor speed [...])"

    So if DFS support had already been implemented in MorphOS before Alchimie, then what's the feature mentioned in the slide for MorphOS after 3.0 referring to? Or is it just that Fab missed to colour it green?
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    jacadcaps
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    Technically, a user prefs module was developed literally yesterday :)
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    stephen_robinson
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    Hot Hot Powerbooks


    I find mine runs cool under OSX, until a flash animation, or even more bizarrely an animated gif* causes 100% CPU load and it's beachball a-go-go. Given my experience with a Macmini and powermac, MorphOS will run much cooler..

    * http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/1vlw-4d856b01ecdfd0d344897a03f438a7bf.gif?w=400&h=264 will bring my Powermac 1.67Ghz with 2 GB of ram to it's knees.

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson 02.05.2012 - 04:30 ]
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    VHF radio?. Are you a HAM?.
    :)
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12162 from 2003/5/22
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    > VHF radio?. Are you a HAM?. :)

    The location he stated below his profile picture might give you a hint :-)
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    lol!. It makes sense...
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    stephen_robinson
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    Andreas_Wolf,
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    So if DFS support had already been implemented in MorphOS before Alchimie, then what's the feature mentioned in the slide for MorphOS after 3.0 referring to? Or is it just that Fab missed to colour it green?


    As the orginal release was expected the best part of 6 months ago, it's not unreasonable to assume they may have added more to 3.0 since then.
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
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    Technically, a user prefs module was developed literally yesterday :)


    Cool, I guess this would mean one step closer to the goal! :-)

    (BTW, would it be correct to say that MorphOS (or at least some tiny part thereof) was developed in Antarctica? :-P ;-))
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12162 from 2003/5/22
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    >> So if DFS support had already been implemented in MorphOS before
    >> Alchimie, then what's the feature mentioned in the slide for MorphOS
    >> after 3.0 referring to? Or is it just that Fab missed to colour it green?

    > As the orginal release was expected the best part of 6 months ago, it's
    > not unreasonable to assume they may have added more to 3.0 since then.

    What my question was about is that said feature was already planned for only after 3.0 (according to Fab's slide) when it had already been implemented (according to jacadcaps). Preponing a feature from 3.1+ to 3.0 because 3.0 takes longer than expected wouldn't explain this.
    What's an explanation though is jacadcaps' statement that Fab's slide doesn't necessarily refer to DFS support per se but to a user prefs module for DFS, which of course could have been planned for a later release than DFS support.
  • »02.05.12 - 08:32
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    geit
    Posts: 1049 from 2004/9/23
    stephen_robinson,
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    As the orginal release was expected the best part of 6 months ago, it's not unreasonable to assume they may have added more to 3.0 since then.


    As we have beginning of May and release was planned end of December, I would calculate end of June as 6 month delay.

    Currently we are "only" 4 Month and a couple of days late. :D

    Anyway, since different people code different stuff, some features are behind and some are ahead, depending on various circumstances.

    Geit
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    takemehomegrandma
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    Anyway, since different people code different stuff, some features are behind and some are ahead, depending on various circumstances.


    Maybe a positive side from development going faster in some areas (and going on beyond a 3.0 feature freeze), is that a 3.1 release may happen not so long after the 3.0? ;-)
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  • »02.05.12 - 09:15
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5
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    Since this is my 2nd year in Antarctica, I guess you could say that quite big portions of the OS were developed here, yea ;)
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    ausPPC
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    At the risk of getting way off topic...

    @ jacadcaps Is this the second year you've returned to Antarctica or have you been living there for at least a year already? What are you doing there? When do you expect to return home? How frequently does your station get mail / new supplies? Is there something you'd like sent to you? (Please don't say 'supermodel' - that sort of thing always ends badly.)
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    I will let jadacaps answer the rest, but this is his second trip to the Antarctic and he left several months ago, not over a year ago.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12162 from 2003/5/22
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    > Is this the second year you've returned to Antarctica or have you
    > been living there for at least a year already? What are you doing
    > there? When do you expect to return home?

    1st expedition:
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4049&forum=3
    https://morph.zone/news/1027.html
    http://antar.waw.pl/30thExpedition.html

    2nd expedition:
    http://antar.waw.pl
    http://www.youtube.com/user/antarcticblog/videos
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    jacadcaps
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    I guess Dave and Andreas already answered for me - you'll find answers to your other questions in the links Andreas provided, namely the current http://antar.waw.pl blog.
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    Ghost
    Posts: 15 from 2011/7/25
    From: Germany
    What about MorphOS 3.0?

    Where´s the problem?

    The activity is on OS 4.x actually more intensive.It seems, MorphOS is going to be dead. No soft no new os. :-x
    MacMini G4 1.5Ghz - 512MB RAM - 80GB HDD - MorphOS 2.7 reg.
  • »21.05.12 - 17:32
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    Ghost
    Posts: 15 from 2011/7/25
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    I dont see any activity. Just take a look to the download section. Except Fabs MPlayer, i see some quite poor and often useless (ported) tools.
    MacMini G4 1.5Ghz - 512MB RAM - 80GB HDD - MorphOS 2.7 reg.
  • »21.05.12 - 17:42
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    Ghost
    Posts: 15 from 2011/7/25
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    There are really good stuffs, thats true. But just imaginate the activity for the last months. There comes nothing. It is not necessary to actualizing the morphos upgrade pack because there is nothing for updating.
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  • »21.05.12 - 18:14
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    Ghost
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    i mean your upgrade pack ;)
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