Hello,

If I sold my Pegasos 2 to Batteman, it's not a coincidence, it's because I don't have enough interest anymore in this platform to support it actively, and so I wanted to sell the Pegasos to someone who is still supporting it actively and for whom I think he can contribute to the platform success.
And, contrary to what you said, I consider that Batteman is someone like that, that's why I sold it to him.

I personnally think that this platform is lacking of a real leader. Someone that could drive the platform, that could really move the platform forward.
This person could have been you, BBRV. But from what I've seen of what you did in the past few years, you don't seem to have the soul of a strong leader.

Regards

[ Edited by Frodon on 2004/9/3 16:43 ]

bbrv, what about people as Doraemon? You said him:

...We have NO record of a purchase from doraemonppc and have ask him to provide the proof of purchase...

So this is solved? I don't like buy some thing to Genesi and then that they say me that, this isn't serious...


[ Edited by timofonic on 2004/9/3 16:04 ]

@BBRV

Is the price drop due to increased Production Quantity or a change in the PegasosII Motherboard Design?

or maybe both?

Katos1

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Katos, the only way to drop the Pegasos price is to increase the production. As you can imagine they don't get the same composent price if they buy 100 or 1000

@tapero,

I assumed increased production Quantities, I know that Genesi must buy components in lots, But I felt the need to ask anyways... I guess the other question will be will their now be an Increase in board production Month over Month? or will 250+ units a month stay standard? will we see 500+ per month produced now that components will not be the issue?

katos1

Yes, timofonic, we figured out what happened to the order from Doraemon and he will get a board. He will also receive a bonus for have to wait so long and through so much.

Frodon/Bertrand, it is sad for us to read this from you. Here is a picture of you in happier times. Nevertheless, you won't see any censorship from us here on MorphZone -- you are entitled to have your opinion. If we meet again one day, we hope you will explain to us why you have changed your feelings so dramatically.

BatteMan, the Betatester and the Pegasos I was marketing by Thendic-France where Bertrand did his university internship. All the IP was/is owned by bplan. bplan is Genesi too. MorphOS has been part of bplan and unless something has changed it still is. There are parts of MorphOS that are still owned by the developers that wrote the code. Whether or not we can get everything all sorted out for the future depends on many things. One of the most important issues is whether or not there is a market for the Pegasos since at this time there is no other place for MorphOS to run. This is of course one of the reasons we have worked so hard to advance with Freescale and IBM. This is also why we have promoted multiple discussions about other alternatives (PearPC, etc.). In the meanwhile, as you can see from these links below things are progressing.

Linux Resources for Development Systems

Power Architecture Community Newsletter

This is precisely the exposure the platform needs to create success. This success, if it comes, could benefit MorphOS.

We hope it all continues to move ahead and everything comes out well in the end. We appreciate and know that you have supported the platform since the beginning very much.

R&B

Hello,

Quote:

I didn't change my opinion that much dramatically. I always thought that the platform need a strong leader to revive it.
I thought at a time that this leader could have been you. But today I realised that you were not the strong leader I expected you could be.

That's why I said that this platform is still lacking a real strong leader.

Don't take it too personnally, it's not easy to be a strong leader, only few people can pretend to be, it requires some skills that are part of the personnality and so can't be learned. I also can't be one myself I think.

Regards

[ Edited by Frodon on 2004/9/3 17:58 ]

bbrv, I'm happy that things are going ahead

Then all those people will have their pegasos II upgrades and buys and be happy, I like to this be completely solved soon.


PS: I have problems with my Pegasos II, I will check if is a HDD problem, if not It will be a mobo problem for sure, then I need to contact with bplan of the reseller? If one of both, who can be faster?


[ Edited by timofonic on 2004/9/3 18:28 ]

@timofonic

Normally, I would suggest to contact bplan; however, with SNDF EU
looming in the background--it may be faster to contact your reseller.


Still, I'm glad everything is finally beginning to "shape up" so to
speak.

OK Frodon, that sounds a little better. Just keep in mind that the "game" is not over yet...

Let's see what happens as the situation continues to evolve.

R&B

Yes timofonic bbrv said recently to me that I will get my peg2 board plus some gift or improvements or something :)
Im really excited waiting it

Do you will receive this?

Good luck!


[ Edited by timofonic on 2004/9/3 20:50 ]

>BTW, here is a picture of the new Pegasos.

>http://images.genesi.lu/pegasosnew.jpg

>The idea is that this complete system will sell for $899 - $999.

999USD sounds good for such a complete system with TFT screen. It would fit perfectly the gap between $799 eMac and $1299 iMac and be a fully upgradable computer. I remember you thought about selling a Pegasos Linux computer at $499 and $699 respectively one year ago.

[ Edited by tarbos on 2004/9/3 20:56 ]

tarbos, same thing without the monitor. These are the prices we need to shoot for.

R&B

I wouldn't call this a bargain. Even with G4, I could get full system without monitor for about 1000$...

Perhaps, but this thread was originally about the upgrade offer which is a 200 Euro deal with trade-in for a mainboard and G4 CPU card, and this is a great deal.

R&B

I just realised that "same thing without monitor" might as well refer to $499 / $699. In that case - I humbly and sincerely apologise

P.S. And, well, yeah, 200 euros for an upgrade is a good price, if only there were enough machines...

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Gah! What happened? Frodon, you were such a strong Pegasos and MorphOS supporter. I think you started the club in France and did stuff with magazines besides interning at Genesi?

And now just to take a shot at "the soul" of BBRV? That seems a bit extreme!

Unlike what you said about you yourself not being able to be a strong leader, I think that leaders are a lot of times created by circumstances. You might get some guy or girl who is a mild clerk or cashier, but something traumatic happens or something really positive happens and that person becomes a great leader. Poverty and bad schooling might make a criminal out of someone who would otherwise become CEO of Suzuki or whatever.

So could you be a great or fine leader if something happened that changed your life or just forced you to be one.

I don't need to defend BBRV. I guess we talk here about Bill Buck although Bill Buck is only half of BBRV. Bill Buck/BBRV can defend himself. But I will point out he has one quality that all leaders have to have, and that's a thick skin. He doesn't overreact when some person says something horrible or personally insulting about him.

You don't see too many hypersensitive leaders! ;)

>bbrv said recently to me that I will get my peg2 board plus some gift

Maybe you get some nice 3D case badges.

@Frodon

> That's why I said that this platform is still lacking a real strong leader.


I completely disagree with you. First of all, it is wrong to expect leadership from one person alone.


we ALL have to be leaders, we all have to show leadership.

It is wrong to assume that one person, in this case Bill Buck, is going to come in and have all the answers, all the money, and good fortune.. and be a total Superman!

Bill Buck is just a regular guy, makes mistakes, but for the most part has similar vision and dreams like the rest of us.. that is why we are here!

Frodon, you can be a leader if you want to be. One way is by taking responsibility for yourself. Why not put yourself in the role of general manger for Genesi in a European country? Then you would see how hard work it really is.



By the way, can you guess what your first task as GM would be?

[ Edited by Darth_X on 2004/9/4 20:34 ]

Quote:


Hi,

Is it possible to give some more info on this ?
I've been waiting and hoping that someday i could hook up the pegasos to the tv.
What kind of hardware is used to use the tv ?
And what kind of software is used ?
And can i buy this soft/hardware for use on my
pegasos now ?

Thank you very much for your answers

>There will be a wireless PCI card inside and a module to plug into your home TV set,
>so you can leave it on the "desktop" and still use it for fun on the tele.

Will it be able to play/transmit HDTV material?

Hello,

@Darth_X
You don't seem to have understood what I meant... Or maybe don't have the same definition of leader...

I don't ask BBRV to be a superman, just to be a leader, and of course the rest of the Genesi staff have to contribute to that also. But the CEO is the first person that have to be a leader, and in fact he has to be the strongest leader of the all staff, as he has to show the example to the other members of the staff, and he has also a public representation. And of course he has also to show that he can be trusted and that he respect his staff.
How can other member of the staff be motivated to contribute to this leadership if their CEO isn't a leader himself and/or not trustable and/or not respectfull?...

And don't worry, CEO who are good leaders exist, it's not an impossible thing. It's not easy of course and require certain aspects of personnality, but not impossible.

Regards

Please bbrv, answer my e-mails ....

Doraemon, still without receive your Pegasos II G4 upgrade?

Too bad for Genesi...