It would be very nice of Genesi to come up with an statement on this situation?

For me, this looks like a chance for Genesi to really grabb PPC users for sure! With trust, promoting MorphOS and this suberb open platform. Genesi can really go for it!

Genesi who got IBM as a partner should discuss this and make a great fight against x86. Please, you have to! These Apple news is not good for lots of macosx users which I've been speaking to the last 24 hours. Lots of them are infact interested in MorphOS!

I wish Genesi all the best... But I want what your words on this is bbrv?

Regards,
Michal, www.amitopia.no

Long day of traveling yesterday...need to wake up.

Something coming to the blog in a couple of hours.

One quick thing is that there will be a large number of orphaned PowerPC based Apples that MorphOS could target, but check back later.

Need coffee...

maybe apple allow to produce mac ppc clones

@Genesi

orphaned ? why is everyone falling into some kind of tragedy. Apple is not about to give up PPC users, next MacoX release (1.5, Leopard) will still have a PPC version.

MorphOS on Mac PPC would be lovely, for sure, i'd love to have MorphOS on my iBook (even if the amount of drivers that must be written to cover all Mac PPCs is huge), but i thought you had no real control (but some interest) on MorphOS anymore ? Would you support the MorphOS team with cash on such a project ? would be nice to hear.

This could be a chance for Pegasos as a real alternative PowerPC platform for Mac-Freaks. MorphOS could be a goal but it lacks to many things and MOS 1.5 isnt ready now.

statement from bbrv about it

...a few more (words).

Bill Buck and/or Raquel Velasco:
Don't play with illusions of the MorphOS users...

MorphOS for orphaned MacOSX PPC users is too stupid, MorphOS is a totally different operating system than MacOSX, why they will can switch to an incomplete operating system that needs a lot of development for match in features with actual operating systems? Pegasos laptops has no sense for actual market. Please not act like Fleecy, Alan Redhouse and Ben Hermans saying fantasies and making false promises.

Don't spread false promises to the MorphOS community, deliver new pegasos machines and solve the MorphOS situation problems and then we will trust you.

@ timofonic



I would just *love* an open Pegasos PPC laptop myself ...

@timo

i think you're overreacting here. BBRV is only expressing views and perspectives according to the current Apple strategy, not making promises. This is only a blog, a space where you can express feelings and views, not a corporate announcement.
Let's not mix up things with a bitter feeling regarding the past of MorphOS.

Here is another way to say that.

Or, you can read THIS.

The truth is we are working on something new that we hope to show HERE. It is along the road to what we discussed.

Please consider this. In the last 24 hours, ONE person interested in MorphOS has purchased a new ODW. In the same time, companies and individuals purchased 23 machines to use GNU/Linux or work on the OpenSolaris port.

We are trying to find a sweet spot for MorphOS. One way to do that is drive down the cost of the hardware. Another way is to design hardware that allows MorphOS to demonstrate its virtues. That is why we started with a MobileGT port.

We are making solid progress. It might not be as fast as some like, but we have overvcome alot to get this far and we are still moving ahead.

R&B

Morphdelf:

I hope you dont feel any regret for getting your powerbook. I know how you feel trust me. I just got a new Powerbook Thursday, dont sweat it, Apple will not release a high end machine with intel in it for 2 more years.Thats a lot of use out of the current machines.That and the fact for years to come the PPC machines will out number the Intel ones. The developers will support both platforms for no less then 5 years I would think. They would be fools not to.

BBRV

I `m pretty sure that MorphOS in its current state won`t bring that much orders like the Linux or even the Solaris effort does.

But otoh I see a real place for MOS, even in its current state. And not only on Handheld Devices like the MobileGT.
For example your recently introduced HTPC based on the Pegasos Hardware. Well this machine is crying for MorphOS ;)

Let me explain that a bit further.
The advantage of MorphOS, it is fast, it is responsve. It has a very short boot time, and that alone is why i personally think it would make the better base for such an effort. And you know, it is possible to strip down MOS even more.
For example a real Desktop like Ambient is not needed.
And there are even some apps allready available, like mplayer and such. Look at the Freevo effort.
they use python to glue the things together. Well, why not Using Rexx? (Hopefully Cisc has gotten further with the Replacment?) There exists a mplayer Version which supports Rexx Control. Fine, it is just needed to bring that up to date. ANR could make also a nice backend for Audio, for the Retrogamers, Fab has made some nice Emuports here. What is missing are people who can glue that together, making the frontends and such, and of course we need support for TV Cards, but even there are some apps made, they just need to be improved, to support digital cards and such.

You see almost everthing is there actually. But what is missing? Well, let me cite Steve Ballmer:
"Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers"
Everyone who is able to code does it allready, everyone is very busy to make apps for our "little Gem" Those who arrent, allready trying to learn (like myself) but personally I have simply not the knowledge (currently) to make such a project happen any time soon. But i truly believe it is possible and can happen, especially when 1.5 with Altivec Support is available.

Now what can you do to help out here: Well I am not sure why MOS not is pre installed on current ODWs. And I won`t specualte about this topic, this leads to nowhere. But even without including it in first place, you can evetually do more to promote it.
You stated that there where 24 people ordering a ODW in the last 24 hours, but only one person interested in MOS. But imho that doesn`t mean they aren`t interested in MOS, they might simply not know about it.
Bigfoot allreads said it is possible for new ODW Users to register and download MOS for free.
Use that! Make hints everywhere you can, Include a fast link on the installed Linux Browser, make a note in the Handbook about that, place banners on the ODW Homepage etc.
So if even only one person out of those 23 ordering a Pegasos yesterday can be interested in developing for MOS, this would double the interested Persons who ordered a Peg in the last 24 hours ;)

I know things aren`t that easy, there are several things to be made, but as I said I think it is all possible ;)

It's not a problem if many people are buying a pegasos to use linux/opensolaris/macosx/ ...

It makes our hardware better and cheaper.

@BBRV

The blog says that the 200 euros upgrade will be available soon. So here is my questions : how can I find the serial and where must I send my motherboard? How many time will It take because I'm beginning some project on it and I will appreciate to have it for holidays?

@Bladerunner

Thank you for your interest and post. One of the reasons we appreciate this community so much is not just for the developers, but also because of the super-users. Most of you know what you are doing with a computer and this is why you appreciate MorphOS so much. We are grateful for the feedback and we read what you have to say.

As for the media station, we agree on this too, which is one of the reasons we provided the AmigaZeux Team machines earlier this year. If there is one group of application engineers that have made a difference in improving a group of applications, it is them. We would love to see a video version of ANR.

The MorphOS-Team wants to handle the distribution of MorphOS, so we are happy that they want to and are. ODW users/buyers will be supported. Of course, until now we always included a MorphOS CD, but we do not do this now because it is from July 2003 and somewhat outdated. We still promote MorphOS when we can.

Thanks again for your remarks.

R&B

@tetuzo

Exactly! Broad interest from multiple OS communities creates volume and this drives down the price as you have now seen.

The "serial number" of the Pegasos I is the MAC address. You can find this in the status window of your network driver.

We be posting the details of the exchange in the next few days. If you need some special consideration, we may be able to work something out with you on an individual basis.

R&B

@ bbrv

One special consideration about the Peg1->PegII exchange is offer it
not only from the U.S. but also from Germany (Oberursel or
maybe a pick up service in Oberhausen). It's easier for all ppl within
the EU - and I guess that is the area where most Peg1s are in use
(Germany, Scandinavia, Poland, France and Italy seem to be very much
in Pegasos fever)

For the rest: my advice is to keep the ODW price as it is now for a
while. The word needs time and (price) arguments to be spread, the
offer is really a good one.

Quote:

Maybe the MorphOS Team could design and print some kind of promotional MorphOS flyer to be put into every ODW package?

Not a bad idea!

We would include it.

R&B

Yeah, even the spec sheets that were made of for the shows would be a great one to use. It would just need to be updated. If anyone has the PDF I think I can edit it using Acrobat Pro. I'd do that if the MOS has no problem with it.