Hi all !!
I'm a french pegasos user.
I want to say that the french's morphos community is not growing..
As you know we have a great ppc OS but few peoples can try it at home !
So if we enable now the release of morphos 1.4 on blizzard and cyberstorm PPC it can add many people on morphos.
Lots of people are waiting for mos on this cards...
More morphos users not a dream it can be real !
The best way to help morphos developpement is to release Mos1.4 for B&Cppc Now !
It will be amasing ,much people will buy Pegasos.
Sure if the dev team has not interest in morphos survival it will never happened.
Please Consider that it can be a great way and help for morphos !
What do you think Henes or Itix about that ?
It can't be bad ?
(Targhan please can you move the topic to the right place, i have made a mistake,sorry)

[ Edited by acepeg on 2005/4/28 11:44 ]

[ Edited by acepeg on 2005/4/28 11:45 ]

[ Edited by acepeg on 2005/4/28 11:59 ]

..tell us more. it's water on the mills of most of us.

Official wording why it isn't there:
There are too many different amiga configurations ou there (GREX, Mediator, many Zorro Boards, etc.) that no sufficient support can be given.

Period.

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Well, I guess Targhan would gladly add a new forum section for PowerUp-MorphOS, enabling a users help users support forum. ;-)

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Yes, I know. It's a pity.

If they agreed to release a PUP version, they should:

1. Prepare it for the release (I don't think it's ready for a public release in its state)

2. be willing to provide a minimum support for it which they can't/don't want to.

Leo.

You can release the version "as is". It's well tested on CyberstormPPC/BlizzardPPC with CybervisionPPC/BlizzardVisionPPC.

Other configurations may work or not, but that would be an user risk. I'm sure G-Rex will work quite well too, and Prometheus with Voodoo3+RTL8029 too. Mediator probably wouldn't be supported due to Elbox nasty tactics and general policy of not giving information...

The support can be provided by the community. If they are unsure they could create a betatester group and support would be provided by it... this betatester group would "filter" most of unimportant issues and would give support to other users. Real issues detected by this betatester group would be reported to the core team (if they want).

phase5 claimed to have sold thousands of BlizzardPPC/CyberstormPPC and even if half of these boards were dead it would mean a potential of 4 times the current MorphOS userbase. If you wait until AmigaOS4 is released I doubt MorphOS user base will expand as much...

I own an A4000T with a CSPPC with 060 and would happily test it and later provide support... I also own a desktop4000 and various cards I could test...

I own a Peggy but I'd like to run MOS on the A4000 too.

It would open a big market and it would attract some developers too...

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Naturally, I would create a support forum. Heck, I'de even try to start a FAQ on the topic too.

Whether the subject matter is viable or not is not something I feel comfortable commenting on. Not so much due to MorphOS-Team and Genesi, but more because I don't want to get wrapped up in Platon42 vs. Elbox--which is a natural topic for this discussion.

Well can't they just realise a testing beta. If people found it intresting they might wpend some money on a peg.

I know it's not as easier as i want ... but if we want more developpers and more users ...
i think that blizzard PPC users are ready to make the step !!
Waiting for Os4 is not a solution !!!!
The aim is the morphos survival and future..
The morphos Team shall consider that the potiential is here.
Will they abandon all morphos users and future ?
I love Morphos ! Morphos death is a nonsense for me !
Will the Mos team make this step for ppc users ?
They wait since a too long time, think of the morphos team image ? This can be a good and free publicity !!!!
think...please... a reaction is needed... open your eyes the market for shareware developpers is here ....
Is gpl the solution that we need ? i don't think so ...
I repeat i love Morphos !


[ Edited by acepeg on 2005/4/28 20:08 ]

Let's see if at least 100 people post to this thread in support of it. If there's only 3-4 people in the world who are interested, then it would clearly be not viable.

So what would it be called? MorphOS 1.4 DEMO?

One thing that people requesting MorphOS for these classic Amiga PowerPC boards should consider is this:

Any new software developed for MorphOS is developed for the base platform, which is a 500mhz G3. And there is no guaranty that classic amiga apps will run on MorphOS, only those that are tested and known to run.


[ Edited by Darth_X on 2005/4/28 12:49 ]

You can have 100 or even 1000 PUP users posting here... That won't make them release anything if they don't want to.

Leo.

@Leo: Bah, You whine too much ;-P

[ Edited by NicoPPC on 2005/4/28 22:44 ]

/mode bitterness

i don't care anymore, i sold my bPPC and bVision few weeks ago, tired of waiting for things that never comes up or too late.

/mode off

MacOS TIger will be released tomorrow.

@Leo

You and timofonic should form the official Pegasos Users Whining Club....or get married or something.

Sheez man...you got component upgrades, a 1.4.4 release, news on development and still you won't STFU!

As I read somewhere in the Gentoo Forums, MorphOS is for geeks only ;P

When I feel geek, I go to Morphos and try to set up things ;)

But I also think that Mac's Tiger and Mac Mini are a good, reliable and cheap solution.

We all now business is hard! Either you go opensource, or invest a lot of money to promote your closed system (or use the money from the sales of i-Pod to promote it ;)

topic moved to hardware.

Who's whining ?

Someone's asking for a PUP port and because I just say it won't happen anytime soon I'm whining ?

Come on... I don't even have a PUP...

Leo - Happy "Whiner".

[ Edited by Leo on 2005/4/29 5:46 ]

@Leo, I think JKD had just mistaken you for another poster.

Another thing of note, a lot of the US Peggie users may not understand the difference in availability of the PPC modules for classics accross the pond and vice versa. (I think they are also rather rare in the UK too, though I may be mistaken). Thus, someone from the UK or the US could easily see a thread like this as whining for support on a virtually non-existant PPC board, while some EU users would see a cyber/blizz version as a real positive. I don't think this falls into a "good or bad" catagory as much as it is a difference in environments.

The above holds true in reverse for the VideoToaster. I would guess that at least half of the remaining classics in the US are equipped with a VideoToaster, where in Europe they are just not around.

MorphOS 1.4.X or better 1.5 :D on the classics would be a dream come true.

Whats the real value of a OS which is running and alomst ready for a concrete hardware piece, and its not released?
We, the users, have been claiming for it during a long time now.

We can pay for it or we can accept it as a gift from the MOS team to the community.No problem.
I think its far better have the Os with no support from the MOS team but with the support of the MOS community that no MOS on the classics at all.

Thats my point

-FrankB

At least a new Beta for PowerUP could be released.

I think a beta of MOS1.x or 1.4.x for Cyber/BlizzPPC cards without support would be a great thing cos it would show many people how great MOS is. I think many of them would buy the Peg to get the real thing, i have some friends that are waiting for MOS/OS4 to be released for Classic Amigas, to see who is better and then to buy this system. And i think MOS is now good enough to convince them to buy the Peg on not A1 with OS4!

A version of MorphOS for PUP is possible, but whether or not a release is possible is a whole other logistic nightmare. I'm quite sure that whatever numbers that are out there that the MorphOS-Team are aware of them. Remember, between MorphOS-Team and b-Plan there is experience with what Phase5 had done.

I guess what I'm saying is "don't panic, don't fret, if it can be done -- it will be done. If there is something that will, in the end, prevent such a release -- it will become known."

Although, It seems like a good time to open up a new poll... One that's available even outside the MorphZone regulars....

Targhan: the problem isn't do it, the problem it's release it, because it's done for non-public (mos developers...).

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So it will never happen since there either will be too many configurations to support, or not enough interest.

Great!

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The support a limited set of configurations. PPC Card+ CVPPC card. Just that. It's better than nothing at all.

Support may be given by the community.

it seems that mos for ppc cards is available by p2p, so then it's released no?