help, Dead Peg??
  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    MaSC
    Posts: 63 from 2003/12/1
    From: Cleveland, UK
    Hi, the Radeon 7000, Case/pwr supply and memory for my pegasosII arrived today so I was finally able to put the thing together. I followed the manual and got to the point of turning it on. The power light came on (well I had to connect it to the HDD LED because the power on wouldn't fit as it was a 3 pin connector, without the 2nd pin). The Hard drive and the cd-rom both fired up.

    However, nothing came on the screen. The monitor says no signal. I tried my PC monitor, I tried my old voodoo PCI from my 1200, I tried re-seating everything. I tried bare-bones (unconnected the drives, mouse and keyboard) Nothing.

    The only things I was not able to eliminate was the peg itself, the cpu card and the memory (my PC uses the old SDR Dimms). Now if the memory was dead would I see anything? Could the cause be the memory. i do not want to think it could be the Peg and have to send it back and wait months for a replacement, arrgh.
  • »08.01.04 - 13:55
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    td741
    Posts: 224 from 2003/4/2
    Probably not much help, but have you got a NULL modem cable? You can hook up a null-modem connection between the PegII and another System. Set the terminal to 8N1, 115200bps, Flow control off.

    By default the Peg sends debug information through the serial port.

    What CPU module are you using? G4 or G3?
    Steph
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    MaSC
    Posts: 63 from 2003/12/1
    From: Cleveland, UK
    No, I Haven't. The Module is a G3 .

    BTW the memory is 128mb 2100 Kingston value Ram
  • »08.01.04 - 14:19
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  • Caterpillar
    Caterpillar
    Posts: 27 from 2003/8/10
    Is the CPU map is correctly put (I had times) or the memory!

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  • »08.01.04 - 15:25
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 62 from 2003/7/30
    From: Nederland
    I think it is the memory
    When my Pegasos would not boot i changed the memory with diferent manufacturer.

    Tip:
    If i wanna build up my peggy i go to the computterstore and try different modules, cdrom, etc.. Then if it works you buy them.
  • »08.01.04 - 16:46
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
    Check Your Ram!!

    and hook up a null modem to check the openfirmware boot cycle. the first check that
    the system does is of the ram, If it cannot get finished it will hang. I got my pegII last wednesday, and this system would hang before the "ok" of the OF... It ended up being an incompatable Keyboard...Good Luck
  • »08.01.04 - 18:58
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
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    Posts: 63 from 2003/12/1
    From: Cleveland, UK
    Thank-you everyone, I thought (well I hoped) it would be the RAM but I thought I better check anyways. However just in case, I will pick up a Null moden cable while I'm getting the new RAM.

    Again thanks for replying.
  • »08.01.04 - 23:05
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
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    Posts: 63 from 2003/12/1
    From: Cleveland, UK
    Well it turns out it was the Ram. However, I have a new problem. I can only boot from cdrom when the harddrive is not connected.

    I type 'boot cd boot.img' and I got an error:

    'Error while trying to load or boot'

    Both drives where on one cable unchanged from my connected to ma Amiga 1200. I disconnected the hard drive and configered the cd as master and it worked. But even then it needed a reset before I could boot the cd.

    So I dug out a old ide cable and connected the cdrom to the secondry ide port with the hd on the primary both as masters.

    This time it booted first time woohoo! However, no hard drive detected (Doh!). So remembering from reading here that hd's are not detected on boot I reset, but, now the cd will not boot.

    I have checked the master/slave jumpers and both are masters on both channels.

    these devices worked together fine on my 1200 last week. hrrrm

    Thankyou
    Mark Cheetham
  • »09.01.04 - 13:44
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 159 from 2003/10/24
    From: Portland Orego...
    Check and make sure your HD doesn't have 2 different master settings. Some HD's have one setting for Master/Only and another setting for Master w/Slave. I've had issues with this before.
    --Mithalas
  • »09.01.04 - 14:00
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    MaSC
    Posts: 63 from 2003/12/1
    From: Cleveland, UK
    No, both have 3 cableselect, master or slave and like I said they worked fine as they where in the 1200

    thanks
  • »09.01.04 - 14:16
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
    I have tried 4 drives on my Pegasos II:

    80 gig western digital ultra/100
    80 gig Maxtor Ultra/133
    16x samsung dvd drive
    36x Cdrom drive ( this drive never worked well, I no longer use it.)

    *Note I used many, if not all possible combinations. Cable select gave me problems with each drive. USE MASTER/ SLAVE SETUPS with you Pegasos II

    DO NOT USE CABLE SELECT unless you are just trying to test. Currently I run my Western Digital 80 gig drive on the primary port as master, and my Samsung DVD as master on the secondary bus.

    I have also run the HD's as master and the cdrom/dvd as slave with no problems, and tested both busses.

    **note Western Digital's ship as cable select by default, inorder to make this drive work perfectly, I made it Master.

    Hope this helps,

    katos1
  • »09.01.04 - 16:30
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    MaSC
    Posts: 63 from 2003/12/1
    From: Cleveland, UK
    Turns out the cd-rom was faulty, I installed a DVD-Rom drive and I am now formatting my HD :):)

    Thanks for everybodys help
  • »09.01.04 - 18:35
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 118 from 2003/5/1
    From: United States
    Hi katos1,

    >16x samsung dvd drive

    Have you had any luck with DVD playback and MPlayer on this drive?

    Regards,

    -D-
  • »09.01.04 - 21:55
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    Senex
    Posts: 498 from 2003/2/17
    From: Hannover / Ger...
    @MaSC

    1) Regarding the LED connector: just cut away the outer third of the plug and insert the cable into the former middle slot of the plug.

    2) Regarding booting and CD you may also have to be aware that "cd" is just an alias. Per default it's directed at /pci@80000000/ide@C,1/cdrom@1,0 - so maybe you have to redefine this alias. Or you use cd0 instead (per default cdrom@1,1 - i.e. second IDE channel, slave).

    Information about the devalias command and other secrets of the Smart Firmware can be found in the - german only - main manual of the Pegasos II from bplan. Maybe thanks to the examples it can be used for the Firmware commands even without knowledge of the german language.

    --
    1.6 GHz PegPower - okay, Pegasos I + II added up ;-)
  • »10.01.04 - 09:50
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
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    Yes, I have tried Mplayer with my dvd's
    I am currently using .90 and not .91 yet!
    It will always load but always locks up as well:(
    What I did find that was cool... is if you copy a VOB file
    from an unprotected DVD say... Newtype Magazines anime
    dvd's are not protected... it will play fine from my harddrive
    I wonder if the DVD doesn't have enough buffers added?
    this weekend I will be trying some new things :)
    my only problem is that I am having so much fun I don't
    know where to begin, Morphos brings back so many happy
    memories I get misty eyed... thats why It has taken so long
    to post back... but i am posting this from My pegII G4 :)

    later
  • »14.01.04 - 02:12
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 118 from 2003/5/1
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    @Katos1

    Right on, thanks for the info, and the tip about adding buffers
    (I always forget to do that on CD/DVD drives!). Seems like it has problems
    with encrypted VOB's. Anyway I'm trying out a few different drives over the
    weekend, can't wait to get some DVD's fired up. :)

    Quote:


    my only problem is that I am having so much fun I don't
    know where to begin, Morphos brings back so many happy
    memories I get misty eyed...



    I hear ya there, it's been late nights for me for the past
    couple weeks now...if only I didn't have to work in the morning..:)

    -D-
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Great!
    Please provide us with a complete report of your findings with the DVD drives. Please include model numbers and results. :)

    btw how do you add buffers to dvd drive?

    magnetic
    Pegasos 2 Rev 2B3 w/ Freescale 7447 "G4" @ 1ghz / 1gb Nanya Ram
    Quad Boot: MorphOS 2.7 | Amiga OS4.1 U4 | Ubuntu PPC GNU/Linux | OS X 10.4
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 118 from 2003/5/1
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    @magnetic

    Sure, I'll definately post my findings! :)

    About the buffers, open a shell (or put in your user-startup
    if you don't want to enter it manually everytime):

    addbuffers cd0: 200
    (would add 200 buffers to your primary CD)

    addbuffers cd1: <n>
    (for your secondary DVD/CD)

    addbuffers <device>: -<n>
    (should subtract buffers)

    etc..

    Using the command without any <n> attatched will display the
    amount of current buffers on the selected drive.

    <n> = number of buffers, a few hundred or so should be PLENTY for
    CD drives. Each buffer is 512 bytes (IIRC).
  • »14.01.04 - 06:24
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
    The CD0: in Mos is given 40 buffers standard, if I remeber
    correctly 1 buffer is 512 bytes? wouldn't that make only
    20k of buffers? the harddrive are standard listed at 600 buffers
    I think the DVD should at least be close. I will install .91
    tonite and do some play test to check the results.

    Katos1
  • »14.01.04 - 10:18
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