Hello,

i have bought an external CD/DVD Drive USB but Jalapeno see it as source (many entries for same drive in fact) but i can't choose any destination and impossible to write an ISO.

It's possible to read MorphOS CD.

Any idea ?

Thanks

[ Edité par Papiosaur 07.05.2021 - 22:00 ]

[ Edité par Papiosaur 08.06.2021 - 14:32 ]

I had the same issue a few months ago and gave up.

Does anyone know what program(s)/libraries/device(s) controls the CD/DVD aspects within Ambient/MorphOS?

The MorphOS CD/DVD control of external devices (USB) for such "burning" functionality, and sometimes other intrinsic features (audio CDs), that should be able to be modified through settings/preferences, actually seems to be confined to an internal CD/DVD drive so these capabilities are incapable of being utilised currently, and ideally needs addressing . . . or at least that's how it seems to me.

This is a snapshot of the bug

jalapenoCUSB.jpg

It could be fine to allow to write on this external CD Writer.

Why do you have the same device, the Matsushita (Panasonic) UJ-835E listed 11 times in the settings of Jalapeno?

Isn't once enough/sufficient, or is Jalapeno adding the drive automatically into settings? If not, then I'd delete the duplicate entries as they seem to be serving no purpose.

If the GWA-4165B DVD/CDRW drive is on the internal IDE channel, then I would have thought it would write/read DVD-R/W and CD-R/W discs, but it seems to be set as Slave (IDE-2)!

Having said that, you seem to still have the UJ-835E set as the default "burner" (Default Disc Copy Source) drive - were you aware of that too?

"Why do you have the same device, the Matsushita (Panasonic) UJ-835E listed 11 times in the settings of Jalapeno?"

>I would like to know It's the "bug"

"Having said that, you seem to still have the UJ-835E set as the default "burner" (Default Disc Copy Source) drive - were you aware of that too?"

>Yes, Jalapeno has put it automaticaly in "Source". About string "Default Disk Copy Source" for me it's the source not the "Destination" (Writer).

"Isn't once enough/sufficient, or is Jalapeno adding the drive automatically into settings? If not, then I'd delete the duplicate entries as they seem to be serving no purpose."

>Yes, Jalapeno add automaticaly it in the settings.

"If the GWA-4165B DVD/CDRW drive is on the internal IDE channel, then I would have thought it would write/read DVD-R/W and CD-R/W discs, but it seems to be set as Slave (IDE-2)!"

>I have 2 SATA Harddrive ("first way" reconnize as IDE) and the internal DVD Drive is on the "second way" IDE.


[ Edité par Papiosaur 08.05.2021 - 08:24 ]

You may try direct programms of jalapeno in Mossys:Data/Jalapeno.

MOSSYS:Data/Jalapeno/cdrecord -scanbus gives yo the device-indentifaication for your CD-Writer.

Gives something like that:

Bus 0 - usbscsi.device
Bus 1 - sbp2.device
Bus 2 - ide.device
Bus 3 - 2nd.ide.device
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW MPD-AP20U' '1.0a' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) 'SONY ' 'MEMORYSTICK MPD ' '1.0a' Removable Disk
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus2:
2,0,0 200) 'ATA-HD' 'WDC WD5000AZRX-0' '' Disk
2,1,0 201) 'ATA-HD' 'WDC WD5000AZRX-0' '' Disk
2,2,0 202) *
2,3,0 203) *
2,4,0 204) *
2,5,0 205) *
2,6,0 206) *
2,7,0 207) *
scsibus3:
3,0,0 300) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW DVR-109 ' 'A912' Removable CD-ROM
3,1,0 301) 'ATA-HD' 'SanDisk SDCFB-51' '' Disk
3,2,0 302) *
3,3,0 303) *
3,4,0 304) *
3,5,0 305) *
3,6,0 306) *
3,7,0 307) *

First entry is a USB-CDRW. ( dev=0,0,0 )

Now you may use cdrecord to burn something on that device. See cdrecord -help for otions.
To make a ISO use mkisofs

Thanks a lot Amigaharry2 for these tips ! I will try soon and comeback here

Question : is it possible to boot MorphOCD via external drive and install MorphOS please ?

I have tried to push Alt at startup, i see MorphOS CD and a usb logo under the icon, i select it then white screen...

Thanks!


[ Edité par Papiosaur 10.05.2021 - 21:44 ]

hello all,

small up, is exist CD/DVD external drive reconized on Mac in the boot menu (Alt key).

I have tested 3 models but not reconized...

Thanks for your returns...

No, Mac won't recognize it in Boot-Menue, because its on the USB-port, which is'nt supported (officially) to boot.
Mac can (official) only boot from SATA, IDE, FIREWIRE or Network.
But it can be possible by calling USB-port directly in OF (like booting from as stick). I'm not sure, whether CD-filesystem is also recognized if CD-Drive is on USB and not on IDE-port......

Pegasos: Not possible - USB (filesystem on USB) not supported.
Efika: Should work(?), but I never got it working. Maybe a problem with my USB-CD-Drive.

Others: Don't know!



[ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 08.06.2021 - 20:11 ]

Thanks Amigaharry2 for your answer, i could try to found a Firewire DVD Drive to try

I'm not sure if FireWire supports CD too! I know it works for harddisks.
Please serach about that, before you buy a FW-CD-Drive.
The best way to boot ist from internal CD or HD. Or, if it's not a too old Mac, from USB-stick (only direktly from OF-console)

Thanks Amigaharry2 for your return

Somebody have start from MorphOSCD on external CD/DVD via OF ?

Yes, tested it now - works on G4-PB. If your Mac creates the UD-Device during runtime it's easy. You can check it in OF with command dev-alias
Connect CD-Drive to USB, then turn on or reboot and goto OF-console.
A device named ud should be shown. If it's ok, content of CD can be shown with dir ud:,\
There is no way to boot automaticaly - you have to call propper boot.img for your Mac manually.

Type

boot ud:,\mac_ppc32\boot.img BD=CD0

If you have a G5, then use mac_ppc64 instead of mac_ppc32.

[ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 09.06.2021 - 13:37 ]

Quote:

Actually, with the very latest 3.15 HDimg written as raw data to a USB stick, you should be able to set the boot-device to ud:,\\:tbxi to boot directly from it.
At least that is how I boot a MorphOS install image on my PBook5,8.
Unfortunately, there are a few more pitfalls with USB, so results may vary. At least I'm pretty sure that you don't need to enter OF-console each time once you found a compatible USB stick and reconfigured the boot-device in OF.
It also works on a PMacG5 and/or iMacG5 as the script included with the HDimg automatically selects the correct boot.img.

Excellent! It work on Macmini too!

Thanks one more time Amigaharry2!

[EDIT] cyfm: thanks a lot for this new feature too! i must test

[ Edité par Papiosaur 09.06.2021 - 14:02 ]

Quote:

Very interessting! Tried that in the past and it won't work (but with older versions of MOS). So I did it with a boot-menue and created a bootable USB-stick (or USB-HD) and called boot.img there directly, which also works flawless.
But useing the raw-data of the ISO and let do the Mac the rest, is the quickest way! I've to test this too......

> Very interessting!

Indeed. While cyfm described this method a couple of times in the depths of the MorphZone forum, I think it deserves a more prominent place.