Alternatively, if still trackable (*), one could ask if the owners of FinalWriter still think their source code would be worth a fortune like when I did ten years before...

(* = Maybe this guy is still around and knows about current contact possibilities.)

Edit: Seems difficult, though.

I offered them 1000 euro - if that`s not enough for ancient code they can piss off because I still have to pay a MOS coder do the port with docx import etc...

Edit: Offered who 1000 Euros for what? Final Writer source code? Papyrus? Something else? Edit2: As a long time user of Final Copy, Final Copy2, & Final Writer, I could be satisfied with a PPC MorphOS port of Final Writer, if it also had updated import/export features and solid printing capabilities.

What ever you decide to support with programming money Fraggle, I strongly suggest that you hold on to your cash until the programming is completed and you can test the final product yourself.

Unless you want to take the chance of hiring a programmer to do "X" amount of coding for a price and have no guarantee what you will end up with when he is finished.

Most programmers who create, or port software for/to MorphOS3.x do so in their spare time, so holding the money back until the project is finished is not a hardship on them. They just get a lump sum at the end, if/when they are able to complete the project. This is how 99.9% of all software bounties are setup, so it is not something new I am proposing, and I am just trying to protect you from yourself and someone who might try to take advantage of your generosity and eagerness.

Like some of the others that have posted in this thread, I would prefer a native MorphOS3.x word processor program, instead of a port of a Linux, or Windows/Mac program, but I would also prefer a port of an existing program instead of an Online solution. Google Docs is a good temporary solution, until a proper native word processor, or a port of another word processor or office suite can be completed.

Thanks for your willingness to donate toward a bounty to get us a native MorphOS3.x word processor, or office suite. As soon as the choice is made and a bounty is set up, I will also donate toward it (much smaller amount of course).

[ Edited by amigadave 21.09.2012 - 21:53 ]

Don`t worry, I know what I`m doing - the only person who has actually received money from me me is Mark Olsen (who I think we can trust

As well as the 1000 euro I put in the EAUE-JIT bounty which I consider `safe`.

Frags

I think for Finalwriter it would be worth to collect an ammount community wide. It's a good program and if sources would be made available that could really lead to something. (if it doesn't work with FW, replace the word "Finalwriter" with "Wordworth" and do the same).

The Papyrus Office thing has probably some legal issues. AFAIK Titan only had a permission for porting, they are probably not authorized to hand out sources.

Cinnamon is pretty basic and it's progression is rather slow. But Mr. Desler is interested in versions for MorphOS and AROS though. A while ago I got access to some sourcecode files of CW and took a look into getting it to MorphOS, but actually had my difficulties with it and messed up a few things and decided to retry that (maybe) a bit later again.

Scriba is developing fast, but still at a very early stage. Best thing to help Carsten is probably testing his releases and giving feedback.

No reply yet but I could do with help contacting the FW people if anyone has any leads.

Fraggle,
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If that's your intention, I am sure a lot of people would appreciate a push for the development of drivers for wireless connection on Macs (most notably, for the PowerBooks)...

Kind regards,
Andrea

[ Edited by guruman 22.09.2012 - 18:49 ]

According to the info that Fab presented a while ago at a meeting, support for the Airport (Extreme) is supposed to be planned for, and might already be started.

I don't know if more money will accelerate this work, like it apparently has for the R300 3D driver development.

I do agree that having a MorphOS3.x driver for the Airport Extreme cards inside the 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's would be a great addition to have finished for the next version of MorphOS3.x, or some version soon after the next version. But since I have already purchased two other wireless networking solutions that I can use with my G4 PowerBook, having the Airport Extreme inside the G4 PowerBook (and G4 MacMini), is not such an urgent priority for me personally anymore.

I think I would rather have a great word processor, or office suite running native on MorphOS3.1.

Java? C#? An investment in either of those would go a long way in getting you such and much more.

I'm sure it's not as simple as that -- is it ever? -- but that's certainly something I'd like to see.

Ed.

EDanaII wrote:,
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Good ideas Ed! Better development tools, and Java which would make many other things possible are often over looked.

I don't personally know anything about C#, but I know a lot of people who are using it, so it must be either good, or just popular right now.

Edit: Since there are zero votes so far, I guess I am not the only member here that can't figure out how to vote on this poll?

[ Edited by amigadave 22.09.2012 - 14:28 ]

yeah, a proper PPC port of final writer that can import/export a few modern standard formats would be killer. Throw in PDF export and I'd be quite happy. Don't need a ton of extra features on top.

> having a MorphOS3.x driver for the Airport Extreme cards inside
> the 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's would be a great addition

I'm confident that such driver would work on the 1.5 GHz model currently supported by MorphOS as well.

@ AmigaDave

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C# is a language sponsored by M$ that is not hugely different from Java. This is because they both have C++ as their common inherited syntax. C# has a huge backing because, like Java, a developer can do their job better than they could with C++.

I would love to see either one or both on any nextgen amiga not simply because of their large software base but because they're a lot easier to work with than their predecessors.

My two cents anyway... :)

Andreas_Wolf wrote:,
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I am often too lazy to type out obvious parts of my statements. To my knowledge, all Airport Extreme cards are compatible with each other, so a driver for one Airport Extreme will probably support all Airport Extreme cards in all Mac models.

I am not sure your post helped clarify my post to anyone, as I think that everyone here could probably figure out that if the Airport Extreme in the 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook gets supported, and it also supports the Airport Extreme in the 1.5GHz G4 MacMini (which IIRC, I also mentioned in my earlier post), then the Airport Extreme in the 1.5GHz G4 PowerBook, that is currently supported by MorphOS3.1, would also be supported by such an Airport Extreme driver for MorphOS3.x.

[ Edited by amigadave 23.09.2012 - 16:33 ]

> I am often too lazy to type out obvious parts of my statements.

As it's obvious you were referring to already supported PowerBooks, just "(G4) PowerBooks" would have been even less to type than "1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's". So obviously, applying the economical aspect didn't work here for me, which in turn made me think you've had have a reason for typing more than was required and at the same time restricting your statement to those (G4) PowerBooks that are running at "1.67GHz".

> To my knowledge, all Airport Extreme cards are compatible with
> each other, so a driver for one Airport Extreme will probably
> support all Airport Extreme cards in all Mac models.

Yes, that's probably true I think and is what my statement is based on. That said, there are three different Broadcom chipsets that have been used for AirPort Extreme, which are the BCM4306, the BCM4318 and the BCM4320. I don't know how compatible with each other they are on a driver level, nor do I know which Apple machines have which chipset, but I know that the MorphOS-supported 1.5 GHz G4 PowerBook model has the same chipset as the 1.67 GHz model of the same generation.

> I am not sure your post helped clarify my post to anyone

I think my post helped clarify your post to everyone who was made to think that you had had a reason for typing more than was required and at the same time restricting your statement to those (G4) PowerBooks that are running at "1.67GHz".

It seems there are various projects of word processors on Amigalikes. If bounty would be made, I think it would be difficult to choose what to support.
Some options:
-port of some good 68k app
-new NG app
-native port of AbiWord
-stripped down PageStream (with PDF in + out)

Perhaps a reward bounty for the person(s) that is the first one to deliver a free word processor (AOS4+MOS+AROS) that meets some tight specs?
Another interesting SW could be just a document converter that can handle all mainstream document formats and some key Amiga fileformats.

hardware accelerated Cairo would probably boost OWB performance but I don't know if any coder would be interested in doing that

connor,
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Yes I was a bit confused about the bounty forum, sorry about that. This was really meant as a discussion thread. I will be more careful before making any more threads/polls.

[ Edited by Fraggle 30.09.2012 - 11:31 ]

Porting of calibre shell tools would be nice.

Of course it would require a MUI GUI, but having all the tools, the GUI is quite simple.

For those who have no clue about calibre. It is an ebook converter tool, which inputs and outputs pdf, html, epub and other formats. The GUI also contains an ebook reader.

I use it quite often to create epubs for my ipad. I write them with MorphOS and I upload them from MorphOS, but inbetween I need to use OSX or Windows to create proper epub files, so that is my choice for a useful bounty. :D

Geit

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They are pure Python and don't really require any porting...


- CISC

It requires at least porting onother python, as it is not a python version we have already. Phython versions are not compatible to each other, as they reinvent the well over and over.

And there are several shell tools which I guess will be needed, too.

Geit

A newer version of SMBFS that doesn't have atrocious transfer speeds would be nice.

Anyone up for it?

I would love to help you out but I need an easier way to develop apps than C.
Any other languages out there?

I can program perl, basic, assembly.

> A newer version of SMBFS that doesn't have atrocious transfer speeds would be nice.

Geit once mentioned another SMB/CIFS filesystem implementation called FuseSMB. This would be feasible I think because MorphOS already has a FUSE-compatible filesystem layer.

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That would be something I'd donate to or even buy a copy of if it were released as a downloadable package.