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Andreas_Wolf
Joined: 2003/5/22

Posts: 12150

From: Germany

> PowerPC native port of Webkit's Just-In-Time Javascript compiler

I think the term 'reimplementation' would describe better than 'port' what was and will be done :-)
»2018/7/18 21:54

NewSense
Paladin of the Pegasos

Joined: 2012/11/10

Posts: 1513

From: Manchester, UK/GB

It works OK for me, I've had no issues using it. In any case IMHO v1.25 of OWB (v3.11 of MorphOS release) is a great step forward from v1.24 (MorphOS v3.10).

Anyone likely to do, or know the benchmark between the v1.25 MorphOS v3.11 release of OWB, and of this JIT enabled ßeta released version for any improvement in speed or RAM performance, i.e. more efficient use of memory, &/or of it not causing fewer memory leaks that lead to low memory conditions.

From my rudimentary testing of it, I'd say it seems better using memory, as I don't seem to be having the same lack of memory after the same amount of use/number of websites visited.
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»2018/7/19 2:23

jPV
Yokemate of Keyboards

Joined: 2003/2/24

Posts: 2096

From: po-RNO

BTW. I did try to use the latest OWB 1.24 from Fab's site (not these newer MorphOS included ones) and oh boy that consumed memory a lot faster on big gossip pages :) Couldn't even browse one page through before all memory was used (1GB machine), while I can do that and go to other pages with these newer ones. So memory usage has clearly been improved even if you don't notice it that easily when going to the better direction :)
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»2018/7/19 5:21

koszer

Paladin of the Pegasos

Joined: 2004/2/8

Posts: 1250

From: Poland

I don't have any personal feelings of "faster" or "slower" than the non-JIT version, but so far the benchmarks results suggest that the JIT-enabled version it's generally slower then its predcessor:

Tests on G5 2,7 GHz:

Sunspider Benchmark (fist column (FROM) is for the old version, while the second one (TO) is for JIT):

Code:

TEST                   COMPARISON               FROM                 TO             DETAILS

===============================================================================

** TOTAL **:           *1.140x as slow*  2642.2ms +/- 0.3%    3011.8ms +/- 0.3%      significant

===============================================================================

  3d:                  *1.41x as slow*    266.9ms +/- 1.6%     377.1ms +/- 1.3%      significant
    cube:              *1.32x as slow*     71.6ms +/- 3.7%      94.5ms +/- 3.1%      significant
    morph:             1.111x as fast     101.9ms +/- 2.6%      91.7ms +/- 2.8%      significant
    raytrace:          *2.04x as slow*     93.4ms +/- 3.1%     190.9ms +/- 1.5%      significant

  access:              *1.74x as slow*    320.4ms +/- 1.2%     556.8ms +/- 1.1%      significant
    binary-trees:      *1.46x as slow*     29.0ms +/- 1.2%      42.2ms +/- 7.1%      significant
    fannkuch:          *1.66x as slow*    159.1ms +/- 2.5%     263.4ms +/- 1.7%      significant
    nbody:             *2.40x as slow*     97.3ms +/- 0.6%     234.0ms +/- 1.6%      significant
    nsieve:            2.03x as fast       35.0ms +/- 5.9%      17.2ms +/- 2.6%      significant

  bitops:              1.37x as fast      348.7ms +/- 0.2%     254.5ms +/- 2.6%      significant
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 2.48x as fast       51.3ms +/- 1.3%      20.7ms +/- 4.3%      significant
    bits-in-byte:      2.31x as fast       70.9ms +/- 0.3%      30.7ms +/- 9.6%      significant
    bitwise-and:       2.66x as fast      110.7ms +/- 0.4%      41.6ms +/- 7.1%      significant
    nsieve-bits:       *1.39x as slow*    115.8ms +/- 0.5%     161.5ms +/- 3.0%      significant

  controlflow:         2.07x as fast       25.9ms +/- 2.4%      12.5ms +/- 4.0%      significant
    recursive:         2.07x as fast       25.9ms +/- 2.4%      12.5ms +/- 4.0%      significant

  crypto:              *1.27x as slow*    137.0ms +/- 2.9%     173.8ms +/- 2.5%      significant
    aes:               *1.67x as slow*     61.6ms +/- 0.6%     103.0ms +/- 3.9%      significant
    md5:               *1.024x as slow*    37.7ms +/- 1.3%      38.6ms +/- 1.0%      significant
    sha1:              1.171x as fast      37.7ms +/- 9.9%      32.2ms +/- 8.7%      significant

  date:                *1.36x as slow*    163.9ms +/- 1.9%     223.6ms +/- 2.3%      significant
    format-tofte:      *1.44x as slow*     73.6ms +/- 1.1%     105.9ms +/- 4.0%      significant
    format-xparb:      *1.30x as slow*     90.3ms +/- 3.7%     117.7ms +/- 2.5%      significant

  math:                1.38x as fast      275.1ms +/- 1.3%     198.7ms +/- 2.2%      significant
    cordic:            2.12x as fast      122.8ms +/- 2.9%      57.9ms +/- 6.2%      significant
    partial-sums:      -                   88.2ms +/- 0.7%      86.7ms +/- 2.8%  
    spectral-norm:     1.185x as fast      64.1ms +/- 1.0%      54.1ms +/- 1.3%      significant

  regexp:              *1.012x as slow*   566.9ms +/- 1.0%     573.8ms +/- 0.7%      significant
    dna:               *1.012x as slow*   566.9ms +/- 1.0%     573.8ms +/- 0.7%      significant

  string:              *1.193x as slow*   537.4ms +/- 0.8%     641.0ms +/- 0.8%      significant
    base64:            *1.073x as slow*    70.8ms +/- 1.0%      76.0ms +/- 3.8%      significant
    fasta:             *1.194x as slow*   100.3ms +/- 1.1%     119.8ms +/- 2.4%      significant
    tagcloud:          *1.23x as slow*    123.9ms +/- 2.5%     152.3ms +/- 1.8%      significant
    unpack-code:       *1.192x as slow*   182.8ms +/- 2.0%     217.9ms +/- 2.2%      significant
    validate-input:    *1.26x as slow*     59.6ms +/- 4.1%      75.0ms +/- 2.9%      significant

Kraken benchmark (fist column (FROM) is for JIT, while the second one (TO) is for the old version):

Code:

TEST                         COMPARISON            FROM                 TO               DETAILS

====================================================================================

** TOTAL **:                 1.64x as fast     171686.7ms +/- 0.6%   104582.2ms +/- 0.2%     significant

====================================================================================

  ai:                        3.41x as fast      28755.7ms +/- 1.7%     8435.5ms +/- 0.5%     significant
    astar:                   3.41x as fast      28755.7ms +/- 1.7%     8435.5ms +/- 0.5%     significant

  audio:                     2.19x as fast      49715.7ms +/- 0.4%    22655.4ms +/- 0.2%     significant
    beat-detection:          2.04x as fast      10924.2ms +/- 0.3%     5360.1ms +/- 0.9%     significant
    dft:                     1.68x as fast      11090.5ms +/- 2.0%     6585.7ms +/- 0.2%     significant
    fft:                     2.04x as fast      10491.1ms +/- 0.4%     5137.9ms +/- 0.4%     significant
    oscillator:              3.09x as fast      17209.9ms +/- 0.3%     5571.7ms +/- 0.4%     significant

  imaging:                   1.30x as fast      80741.4ms +/- 1.0%    62322.1ms +/- 0.3%     significant
    gaussian-blur:           1.32x as fast      60551.4ms +/- 1.1%    45908.9ms +/- 0.4%     significant
    darkroom:                *1.133x as slow*    5725.7ms +/- 1.1%     6486.0ms +/- 0.6%     significant
    desaturate:              1.46x as fast      14464.3ms +/- 2.7%     9927.2ms +/- 0.4%     significant

  json:                      1.092x as fast       816.0ms +/- 0.7%      747.0ms +/- 0.7%     significant
    parse-financial:         1.189x as fast       218.6ms +/- 0.4%      183.8ms +/- 1.6%     significant
    stringify-tinderbox:     1.061x as fast       597.4ms +/- 0.9%      563.2ms +/- 0.9%     significant

  stanford:                  1.119x as fast     11657.9ms +/- 0.5%    10422.2ms +/- 0.6%     significant
    crypto-aes:              1.22x as fast       2682.3ms +/- 0.7%     2201.1ms +/- 1.1%     significant
    crypto-ccm:              1.21x as fast       1637.8ms +/- 1.2%     1350.1ms +/- 0.8%     significant
    crypto-pbkdf2:           1.085x as fast      5576.0ms +/- 0.8%     5137.6ms +/- 1.2%     significant
    crypto-sha256-iterative: 1.016x as fast      1761.8ms +/- 0.7%     1733.4ms +/- 0.9%     significant

»2018/7/19 8:25

connor
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Joined: 2007/7/29

Posts: 570

From:

For me it feels the same. I have not seen any difference so far. Which typical websites should be faster or slower? I did not realize any differences in news pages, PayPal (still not possible to make a money transfer and the same timeouts), mail provider pages.
»2018/7/19 8:58

bigfoot
MorphOS Developer

Joined: 2003/4/11

Posts: 510

From:

Unfortunately it seems that I managed to accidentally leave out a specific (and important) optimisation from this release. I've uploaded a new OWB-JIT archive to my website which has this optimisation re-enabled :)

@koszer
Thanks for pointing this out :) With the new binary, Sunspider still doesn't show a great improvement, but an improvement nonetheless, at least for me. Octane shows a much nicer improvement, but has its own issues as the "pdf.js" test runs out of memory. The tests before then show up to a 3 times improvement for me.

Please download the new binary and try again, and if you find anything that else that doesn't seem right, please let me know!

To verify that you have the updated version, the update OWB-JIT.lha archive has an md5sum of1bfd40216a4abf9c13b228a9227dfed4 and the updated OWB-JIT binary has an md5sum of0f3ba9ce5a086748b4a9737be3150cff
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»2018/7/19 9:45

r-tea
Order of the Butterfly

Joined: 2005/3/27

Posts: 306

From: Poland, Zdzies...

The thing I know for sure is that Mark himself is faster than his OWB-JIT
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»2018/7/19 10:11

koszer
Paladin of the Pegasos

Joined: 2004/2/8

Posts: 1250

From: Poland

I've tried Octane 2.0 benchmark on a 1 GB RAM equipped iBook G4 1,33 GHz and without JIT it passes the test (with 358 points AFAIR), but with JIT enabled the browser hangs halfway (the memory gauge suddenly goes 100% and bam - it's meditating).

[ Edited by koszer On 2018/7/19 20:30 ]
»2018/7/19 17:01

bigfoot
MorphOS Developer

Joined: 2003/4/11

Posts: 510

From:

Quote:

For me it feels the same. I have not seen any difference so far. Which typical websites should be faster or slower? I did not realize any differences in news pages, PayPal (still not possible to make a money transfer and the same timeouts), mail provider pages.

Make sure you update to the second release I made. Also, the JIT will only make some things faster. It will not change anything for things that didn't work at all before.
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»2018/7/20 8:27

bigfoot
MorphOS Developer

Joined: 2003/4/11

Posts: 510

From:

Quote:

I've tried Octane 2.0 benchmark on a 1 GB RAM equipped iBook G4 1,33 GHz and without JIT it passes the test (with 358 points AFAIR), but with JIT enabled the browser hangs halfway (the memory gauge suddenly goes 100% and bam - it's meditating).

Yes, as mentioned the pdf.js test runs out of memroy. I have not yet investigated this issue, so I don't know if it is because of a bug or if the JIT version simply uses more memory, but it's probably a bug. I also found out that one of the later tests fails with JIT as well.

I've uploaded two variants of the Octane benchmark to my website, first one that disables the tests that fail with the original OWB (zlib test) as well as the two tests that currently fail with JIT (pdf.js, Mandreel) and then also one that also disables the regular expression test, as the regular expression JIT is not yet enabled.

Octane without failing tests

Octane without failing tests and regexp
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»2018/7/20 8:54

amiga23
Just looking around

Joined: 2014/5/5

Posts: 13

From:

OWB-JIT does not handle timezone information.

getTimezoneOffset() returns 0 but should return -120
getUTCHours() returns the same value as getHours()

In OWB included in MOS 3.11 it works fine.

https://www.quackit.com/javascript/tutorial/javascript_date_and_time.cfm
»2018/7/21 15:44

NewSense
Paladin of the Pegasos

Joined: 2012/11/10

Posts: 1513

From: Manchester, UK/GB

I cannot log in to my Adobe ID / amend/request a new password - OWB/CPU just goes into "overdrive" and nothing happens, the mouse cursor continues to be moveable, and screen swapping works OK, but the OWB window/program takes over the CPU and it ends up running at 98-99% activity, wit nothing happening for minutes on end, so I felt it required a warm reboot to start again, that's with OWB v1.25 either the v3.11 release or this later JIT enabled version.

I also cannot log into the ITV (Television) Hub to type in the "Date Of Birth" input request area as the cursor won't go active in that field, so I had to use a "Windows" browser to be able to activate access to this ITV Hub, which I was loathed to do, but I couldn't find a way to accomplish it with OWB, as even spoofing didn't work.
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»2018/9/6 4:31

NewSense
Paladin of the Pegasos

Joined: 2012/11/10

Posts: 1513

From: Manchester, UK/GB

Somehow this was a duplicate of my above post, so I have left the "Peat" and removed the "Re-Peat"

[ Edited by NewSense On 2018/11/9 9:08 ]
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»2018/9/6 4:31