MorphOS : : Public Release of MorphOS 3.11
Posted By: ASiegel. on 2018/7/6 10:39:41

Public Release of MorphOS 3.11


The MorphOS development team is proud to announce the immediate availability of MorphOS 3.11. In addition to performance, stability and security improvements, this new version also features the first more substantial update of the Odyssey web browser in a while, which improves the rendering of and general compatibility with modern websites in several ways, as well as a more refined version of the recently introduced Flow Studio, our official integrated development environment. For a more extensive overview of the changes included in MorphOS 3.11, please read our release notes.

We strongly urge new users to carefully read our installation and troubleshooting guides before they attempt to install MorphOS for the first time. Existing users can upgrade via the familiar procedure but are encouraged to read the guides as well. MorphOS 3.11 is available for download in our files section.

 
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    Is this the "anti-QEMU" edition? ;)

    Has anyone tried it yet?

    Seriously though, thanks for the update guys. Much appreciated. :)
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    Great - especially the odyssey update sounds promising.
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    The Odyssey update fixes at least one _me_ much annoyingand rather recent incompabiltiy: the rain radar of wetteronline.de works again. Well done!
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    @ Zylesa

    Google Maps should work a lot better than before removing the need to switch to version 1.23 of Odyssey.

    Also, websites such as Allegro.pl, which many Polish users appear to frequent, look completely different.

    [ Edited by ASiegel On 2018/7/6 22:01 ]
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    @ Zylesa

    Google Maps should work a lot better than before removing the need to switch to version 1.23 of Odyssey.

    Also, websites such as Allegro.pl, which many Polish users appear to frequent, look completely different.

    [ Edited by ASiegel On 2018/7/6 22:01 ]


    I haven't tried many other sites yet, but really: the wetteronline issue annoyed me pretty much as I use the rain radar for planning my bike training units/commuting times quite a lot (and for planing the garden watering). The service ran fine until recently. And now it works again and _that alone_ is quite something for me.

    Also the google picture search was somehow broken since a while and runs fine again now. Another big, big plus! So far I am happy :-)
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    Niiiiiiiiiice! Thanks guys! I am demoing G5/MorphOS tomorrow at a local retro club. This is just in time. I hope the most recent Chrysalis Pack mostly works on 3.11. I suspect at least a couple guys will end up getting MorphOS. These guys are active users and many have an old Amiga.
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    I just tried using Jalapeno on the MorphOS v3.11 ISO file, but the disc that is created is not bootable, and not even recognised under the early startup (Alt key).

    I burnt it to a CD-RW using Jalapeno.

    I can access the disc if I type "MorphOSBoot:" into the blank text entry area of a directory/device window, and the files, folders show up, but the disc icon/device does not mount on my Ambient screen.

    Is this issue known about? :-?
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    @ NewSense

    Have you considered that the file you downloaded got corrupted? For these type of cases, the website does list an md5sum that you can compare with the md5sum of the file you saved.
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    I was just about to add that I actually got the disc to Boot under Open Firmware with an UnRegistered Disc ... BUT

    I see the Boot screen for v3.10 ...... then

    MorphOS boot.img version is too old.
    In order to boot from the MorphOS CD type
    boot /pci/cd
    to the OpenFirmware prompt


    I get the feeling that not enough care has been taken to correctly add the correct boot.img to the ISO file, and that the disc ISO file does not meet the requirements for MorphOS to mount the disc under Ambient, which may be a fairly fundamental mistake.

    I did check the ReadMe file, and it does state it is the 3.11 ReadMe so I can only assume the mistake is the Team's, not mine, sadly.

    EDIT Ignore my comments above - I was just too tired and forgot the correct procedure: -
    Boot with "Alt" key pressed down to start directly from the disc.

    I have now successfully installed v3.11 - which works far better than v3.10, and thanks to all the Team for this much improved update - including OWB v1.25 - which allows Parcel2go.com to be useable once more, though using a USB audio device (Griffin iMic) does still freeze out the system when its selection is cancelled in AHI, which I thought had been fixed for v3.11?

    [ Edited by NewSense On 2018/7/9 6:49 ]
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    @ NewSense

    Quote:

    I get the feeling that not enough care has been taken to correctly add the correct boot.img to the ISO file, and that the disc ISO file does not meet the requirements for MorphOS to mount the disc under Ambient, which may be a fairly fundamental mistake.

    You are mistaken.
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    André, I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just stating facts.

    I have re-checked the md5 checksum against the MorphOS Home page = 12f4c8bc8970e9d39563ee1f0ab51054

    Mine is the same checksum, but to be sure, I downloaded the file again, and all I have done is burnt the file again with Jalapeno, and the same issue occurs with the file, as before - MOS v3.10 Boot screen, and MorphOS boot.img version is too old.

    ... and the MorphOSBoot disc does not show up on the Ambient Screen.

    From the ReadMe "$VER: MorphOS.readme 3.11 (06.07.2018)"

    Have you checked out / tried this process for yourself as I have related it?

    EDIT Please ignore my comments above, as I was just too tired and forgot the correct procedure: -
    Boot with "Alt" key pressed down to start directly from the disc.

    [ Edited by NewSense On 2018/7/9 6:52 ]
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    "boot.img too old" means that the Mac started to boot the installed 3.10 from HD and when MorphOS searched for bootable devices it gave the CD priority over the HD.

    -> MorphOS can read your burned CD, OF still not.
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    I may have forgotten a fundamental myself, or not, I'm not sure I remember that you have to boot the MorphOSBoot: image from a cold start - is that correct?

    Now that I have done that, yes the CD does boot to MorphOS v3.11 Boot and Installation screen - so Kronos is probably right, though I'd figured this out before I read his post, as I was busy trying the other options to see if there was something I'd forgotten- so some of it's probably my fault - I've had a late night, and probably I'm not at my most alert right now, so some of the issues might be related to me not doing a Cold-Boot to startup the MorphOSBoot CD, so for that I offer my apologies. 8-)

    However, I still don't understand why v3.10 can't see the disc on the Ambient Screen, but when it's booted onto v3.11 installation screen it is visible?
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    @ NewSense

    Please read the part of your post that I quoted. These are not facts but speculation and conjecture insinuating that the MorphOS development team failed to do even the most basic testing before releasing MorphOS 3.11.

    This is a common theme of your comments here since the release of MorphOS 3.10. Anybody willing to help you with a technical issue needs to read through pages of commentary to hopefully discover kernels of relevant information. If you would like others to assist you, focus on your error descriptions and keep them succinct.

    The error message you mentioned indicates that you are not fully booting from CD for some reason. Are you sure you are following the right procedure? Also, have you tried burning the CD from a different computer and with different software?
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    However, I still don't understand why v3.10 can't see the disc on the Ambient Screen, but when it's booted onto v3.11 installation screen it is visible?

    Could it be possible that you'd have accidently selected the "Put Away" option from the RMB context menu for the CD icon at some point? When you've tried to select "Eject" instead?

    The "Put Away" option would hide the icon from the desktop, but the CD would still be accessible elsewhere. For example, if it'd still show up in the "My MorphOS" device list, you could drag it back to the desktop to "put it back".

    I've also had problems with aging CD-RW discs/drives, that for example my Mac mini doesn't recognize discs at all, but other machines will, or at least will but with some suspicious sounds/delay :) It has helped to switch to a fresh CD-RW...
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    I may have forgotten a fundamental myself, or not, I'm not sure I remember that you have to boot the MorphOSBoot: image from a cold start - is that correct?

    Now that I have done that, yes the CD does boot to MorphOS v3.11 Boot and Installation screen - so Kronos is probably right, though I'd figured this out before I read his post, as I was busy trying the other options to see if there was something I'd forgotten- so some of it's probably my fault - I've had a late night, and probably I'm not at my most alert right now, so some of the issues might be related to me not doing a Cold-Boot to startup the MorphOSBoot CD, so for that I offer my apologies. 8-)

    However, I still don't understand why v3.10 can't see the disc on the Ambient Screen, but when it's booted onto v3.11 installation screen it is visible?


    The DVD drives are old and seem to have problems on low level. I don't use cds any longer for installation - it's less hassle and less waste.

    Instead: Download the iso, put it on another partition than sys:. Mount the iso, mount your boot drive partition copy the (right!) boot.img to the boot: partition.

    Then reboot, access the OF (cmd+alt+o+f)

    On OF just type boot hd:,\boot.img bd="dh2:morphos.iso" (given the iso is located at dh2: and is named morphos.iso)

    Go through the update process, wait te 1-3 minutes it takes. Once finisged, reboot and be a happy 3.11 user
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    jPV replied: Could it be possible that you'd have accidently selected the "Put Away" option from the RMB context menu for the CD icon at some point? When you've tried to select "Eject" instead?

    What a great bit of diagnosis of the issue - and - you were spot on - that was the issue ... I'd inadvertently "Put It Away" :-D
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    jPV replied: The "Put Away" option would hide the icon from the desktop, but the CD would still be accessible elsewhere. For example, if it'd still show up in the "My MorphOS" device list, you could drag it back to the desktop to "put it back".

    I've done just that, many thanks for working out my error . . . you the man 8-)
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    jPV replied: I've also had problems with aging CD-RW discs/drives, that for example my Mac mini doesn't recognize discs at all, but other machines will, or at least will but with some suspicious sounds/delay :) It has helped to switch to a fresh CD-RW...

    I have a UJ-875 DVD-RW drive in mine, not quite the standard UJ-845/6 model, and it seems to work flawlessly for me - as long as I have my wide-awake head on, though I've had a hectic week, like most of you.

    It seems it was basically all my error, and tiredness, many thanks to all for suggesting ways to fix my problems.

    Apologies André, I am just too worn-out at the moment, and it was my fault - but thanks for being there. 8-D

    Parcel2go website seemd to be getting further than it did. I've not organised a parcel as yet, but I got past the previous barrier to logging into the site to arrange an order. So things might be better with OWB v1.25

    I have noticed that when OWB v1.25 starts up, and when a new page/site/bookmark is triggered, it seems to stall for SIX minutes approximately, and appears to be related to HDD activity for that time, which basically anaesthetises/locks/disables the system, until it's spooled whatever data it requires, or whatever it is caching or JavaScript it's working on, etc., and then it releases the system back again, but approximatey SIX minutes before you can use OWB.

    By that, I mean if you try to visit any site, or use a link to access a webpage then OWB can become neutralised, along with MorphOS as well, until the process within OWB is completed, and that can be anything up to SIX minutes for each site you visit, surely that cannot be as intended, then I noticed the Page Cache option in OWB's preferences - to bypass this issue. :-)

    I'm off to bed for some sleep, before I shoot myself in the foot again today. :-)

    [ Edited by NewSense On 2018/7/8 7:01 ]
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    On OF just type boot hd:,\boot.img bd="dh2:morphos.iso" (given the iso is located at dh2: and is named morphos.iso)



    It's BI = BootImage, not BD = BootDevice.

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    When I get the Boot.img is too old error, I just load up MorphOS without the upgrade CD inserted, insert the CD once fully loaded and then copy the boot.img file over to the Boot drive manually. After a restart, the upgrade installation works as normal.
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    When I get the Boot.img is too old error, I just load up MorphOS without the upgrade CD inserted, insert the CD once fully loaded and then copy the boot.img file over to the Boot drive manually. After a restart, the upgrade installation works as normal.

    Yeah, that works too (but don't touch to the bootinfo.txt file!), but the initial problem is still that you haven't succeeded to command the machine to boot from the CD and it actually boots from HD (and by boot priorities OS gets loaded from CD, but by the old boot.img which has been loaded from the HD).

    I've found that pressing the C key on Macs is quite unreliable way to boot from the CD. Either you don't press it at correct time or there's some other issue. But booting the machine with the Alt key pressed so that you end up to the Mac boot selector is a reliable way. If you see the CD on that graphical boot menu, and select it, then the correct boot.img is loaded from the CD for sure.

    [ Edited by jPV On 2018/7/7 20:54 ]
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    Is it ok to redo the upgrade? Meaning, I have 3.11 installed on my G4 but it had an error.... It still boots up in 3.11 but I'm not sure if it really did complete everything?

    Edit:
    looking around, I have a "MorphOS_IWTmp" directory which has some standard MorphOS dirs in it...looks like it didnt complete.

    Edit 2:
    I thought the ISO was bad. I burned it on my Linux box, seems to burn properly. Upgraded on my G4 to 3.11 from 3.10 but that didnt work as seen above. Thought maybe iso was bad. Downloaded it on my G5 and burned it with Jalapeno. I have an error in Jalapeno "Sense code 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0
    Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)".

    Strange.. bad iso?

    Edit 3:
    Looks like it was media. Maybe I tried to burn it to a DVD and it freaked out? Not sure. Burned it to a CD-R and no error in Jalapeno. Re-upgraded since MorphOS ISO on bootup stated I had 3.10. Worked fine. Upgrading my G5 now. :-)

    [ Edited by TheMagicM On 2018/7/7 22:48 ]
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    @ NewSense

    The editing toolbar works just fine with Odyssey v1.25 for me. I wrote some text, marked it while pressing the left mouse button, and then clicked on "B" to add "bold" tags. No issues.

    As for any web browser showing odd unexpected behavior, it is usually a good idea to clean your browser cache as it might have become corrupted or - more likely - cached contents (such as Javascript files) might conflict with newer versions of a website.

    An easy to remember way to test if your browser cache might be acting up is to boot MorphOS from CD and see if Odyssey in its default state exhibits the same symptoms. In general, if a severe issue also happens when you boot MorphOS from CD, you likely found a bug. If it does not, chances are something is wrong with your installation / configuration.
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    Glad you figured it out :)
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    Downloaded it on my G5 and burned it with Jalapeno. I have an error in Jalapeno "Sense code 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0
    Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)".


    Pretty common with dirty old burners - and spontaneous ejections :-D

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