Software : : Calimero 3.0
Posted By: pegasos-sigi2. on 2016/4/29 20:21:14
Calimero 3.0

New:

+ Mask Screenshot
+ insert Alpha Screenshot
+ AnimGif (alpha!)
+ import picture dirs
+ Bugfixing
 
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    This is rapidly becomming my favourite word processor :-) But you need to do something about the heavy CPU load which really slows things down. It still uses some 20% CPU even in idle (15% when spellchecker is disabled).

    Still, good work!
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    It's already 3.0 and still:

    1. No word wrapping (words are just cut between the lines in random places)
    2. No foreign characters support (in that case - Polish characters). I don't know why, it worked in the past (pre 1.0?).

    All in all - nice try, but I'll rather stick to Cinnamon Writer that's rapidly becoming my favourite word processor. At least in handles number 1 and number 2 without any problem.

    Good luck with the development though.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    It's already 3.0 and still:

    1. No word wrapping (words are just cut between the lines in random places)
    2. No foreign characters support (in that case - Polish characters). I don't know why, it worked in the past (pre 1.0?).

    All in all - nice try, but I'll rather stick to Cinnamon Writer that's rapidly becoming my favourite word processor. At least in handles number 1 and number 2 without any problem.

    Good luck with the development though.


    1: Wordwrapping is very pimitive,true. But it works.

    2. Take a look. Polish characters in Calimero
    It is possible to add polish text, like on other progs, too.
    You must select polish keyboard layout, of cause (Please take look at my screenshot).
    I can write polish text!
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  • »2016/4/30 21:19
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pegasos-sigi2
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    This is rapidly becomming my favourite word processor :-) But you need to do something about the heavy CPU load which really slows things down. It still uses some 20% CPU even in idle (15% when spellchecker is disabled).

    Still, good work!


    The problem is the cursor blinking.
    Without the cpu usage goes down to 0.2%

    I try to find a solution.
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  • »2016/4/30 21:26
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    I thought it was time for trying out Bulleted paragraphs, but, Wow, that was a trial and error. The bulleting seems to be fickle, in that, you highlight the text for several lines of text, and it puts a bullet on the line above where the text is highlighted, leaving the bullets on the highlighted text unaffected, instead of toggling off the bullets on the lines that are highlighted that already have bullets on them.

    Also, using the text cursor in particular is a major problem, as it hops all over the place, and sometimes won't even sit at the end of a line of text, so you end up deleting the last but one letter, when you want to delete the one that is ACTUALLY at the end of the line of text. There is no keyboard method of highlighting text/words other than letter by letter it seems, certainly no well established method of doing so using Shift + 'other short-cut keyboard commands'.

    There is still no, real-world reliability (it regularly goes into hyper-drive and locks my system), there is little in the way of continuity as I have mentioned above. There are still no real-world keyboard editing controls (like you find in a Powerful DeskTop Publishing program or Word Processor) and there are actually more accurate and better functioning text editing keyboard controls in this webpage comment editor input field than there are with Calimero - even after all this time.

    When I 'Snapshot' the Calimero GUI on its own screen it does not save the GUI as a full screen, just enough to show the main part of the page and rulers/tools, which is not what Snapshot is supposed to do, and the same applies to the other sub-menus/tools windows as they don't save their window position/sizes either.

    There is no option to ZOOM in on the page for fine control/positioning for either small text or precise positioning of an image.

    Sadly, as has been mentioned already, if you are going to add features like enhancing text wrapping functions, then get the basics sorted out first of all before you move onto another function that just adds to the long list of partially-functioning/partially-completed features that you keep adding into Calimero.

    One of the most important features for a DTP/Word Processor is . . . precise text/cursor control, which Calimero is missing in spadefulls. At least that's what I think.

    It's your program, and you can of course do what you like with it, but if you carry on implementing features surely you want others to benefit from using it, and for you to be proud of having coded it, and for it to be considered reliable to use or others just won't bother using it.

    I would like this program to succeed but you keep adding features to a program that has many features that don't function correctly already, so fix the ones that you have put in the program, before you add more features on top of the other ones that are only partially/poorly implemented. I am not going to try out this program any further as it just too frustrating using it, as the basic features need fixing first, which you don't seem to consider need fixing or are just not capable of fixing.

    I dislike having to make such negative comments, but you keep doing the same thing, over and over again with Calimero, which is not making the program any more efficient or better to use.

    It does import images OK, but I cannot find a way to 'stack' images one on top of the other manually, move them below or above another image, and there are of course still no cropping tools for the images.

    I would not have called any of your versions higher than 0.x, nevermind v3.0, as to me the whole program is still very much in a Beta state due to its poor/unreliable functionality. I personally don't mention it to other people as it's not worthy of anyone trying out unless they want a headache, IMHO.
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  • »2016/5/1 4:50
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  • ASiegel
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    Quote:

    Quote:

    This is rapidly becomming my favourite word processor :-) But you need to do something about the heavy CPU load which really slows things down. It still uses some 20% CPU even in idle (15% when spellchecker is disabled).

    Still, good work!


    The problem is the cursor blinking.
    Without the cpu usage goes down to 0.2%

    I try to find a solution.

    While you are thinking of a solution, why not offer an option to disable the blinking for those who care more about 20% CPU time than an animated cursor?

    Also, I would greatly appreciate if you put a bit more effort in your news submissions as they are regularly rather cryptic. I do not think it is too much to ask that you include at least one sentence explaining the purpose of a particular software project even if the news refers to an update for an application that has been released before.

    [ Edited by ASiegel On 2016/5/1 11:49 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

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    This is rapidly becomming my favourite word processor :-) But you need to do something about the heavy CPU load which really slows things down. It still uses some 20% CPU even in idle (15% when spellchecker is disabled).

    Still, good work!


    The problem is the cursor blinking.
    Without the cpu usage goes down to 0.2%

    I try to find a solution.

    While you are thinking of a solution, why not offer an option to disable the blinking for those who care more about 20% CPU time than an animated cursor?

    Also, I would greatly appreciate if you put a bit more effort in your news submissions as they are regularly rather cryptic. I do not think it is too much to ask that you include at least one sentence explaining the purpose of a particular software project even if the news refers to an update for an application that has been released before.

    [ Edited by ASiegel On 2016/5/1 11:49 ]



    For more information read the ReadMe. Thats the standart .I haven't much time to copy and paste the readme in the news .
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  • »2016/5/1 10:17
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pegasos-sigi2
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    I thought it was time for trying out Bulleted paragraphs, but, Wow, that was a trial and error. The bulleting seems to be fickle, in that, you highlight the text for several lines of text, and it puts a bullet on the line above where the text is highlighted, leaving the bullets on the highlighted text unaffected, instead of toggling off the bullets on the lines that are highlighted that already have bullets on them.

    Also, using the text cursor in particular is a major problem, as it hops all over the place, and sometimes won't even sit at the end of a line of text, so you end up deleting the last but one letter, when you want to delete the one that is ACTUALLY at the end of the line of text. There is no keyboard method of highlighting text/words other than letter by letter it seems, certainly no well established method of doing so using Shift + 'other short-cut keyboard commands'.

    There is still no, real-world reliability (it regularly goes into hyper-drive and locks my system), there is little in the way of continuity as I have mentioned above. There are still no real-world keyboard editing controls (like you find in a Powerful DeskTop Publishing program or Word Processor) and there are actually more accurate and better functioning text editing keyboard controls in this webpage comment editor input field than there are with Calimero - even after all this time.

    When I 'Snapshot' the Calimero GUI on its own screen it does not save the GUI as a full screen, just enough to show the main part of the page and rulers/tools, which is not what Snapshot is supposed to do, and the same applies to the other sub-menus/tools windows as they don't save their window position/sizes either.

    There is no option to ZOOM in on the page for fine control/positioning for either small text or precise positioning of an image.

    Sadly, as has been mentioned already, if you are going to add features like enhancing text wrapping functions, then get the basics sorted out first of all before you move onto another function that just adds to the long list of partially-functioning/partially-completed features that you keep adding into Calimero.

    One of the most important features for a DTP/Word Processor is . . . precise text/cursor control, which Calimero is missing in spadefulls. At least that's what I think.

    It's your program, and you can of course do what you like with it, but if you carry on implementing features surely you want others to benefit from using it, and for you to be proud of having coded it, and for it to be considered reliable to use or others just won't bother using it.

    I would like this program to succeed but you keep adding features to a program that has many features that don't function correctly already, so fix the ones that you have put in the program, before you add more features on top of the other ones that are only partially/poorly implemented. I am not going to try out this program any further as it just too frustrating using it, as the basic features need fixing first, which you don't seem to consider need fixing or are just not capable of fixing.

    I dislike having to make such negative comments, but you keep doing the same thing, over and over again with Calimero, which is not making the program any more efficient or better to use.

    It does import images OK, but I cannot find a way to 'stack' images one on top of the other manually, move them below or above another image, and there are of course still no cropping tools for the images.

    I would not have called any of your versions higher than 0.x, nevermind v3.0, as to me the whole program is still very much in a Beta state due to its poor/unreliable functionality. I personally don't mention it to other people as it's not worthy of anyone trying out unless they want a headache, IMHO.


    You write this lines of text, because you did't like Calimero.
    Even i fill some loosing features, you find an other leak.
    So i say:

    Text was not the primary Feature all time of Calimero.
    It existing nearly 20 features near by.
    The improvment of Text was stoped, because of comments like yours.
    I can't develope against your "FEATURELIST".
    It eating rare time,too.
    So i include other features (they all did't exists for MorphOS at this time)
    in the code.

    I started with vectorgrafic and WMF (and porting of the libuemf for Morphos) . It works nearly perfect. Any WMF Features aren't includet, because i haven't get any example with this.
    Now i am include animation. Started with webp.. So i have first port the list of webp librarys. Now i can im/export webp anim and load/save webp pictures.
    AnimGif is more complicated, because the libgif (I ported one day before) is realy mad. The Alpha state is reached.
    APng is easy to include, because i have port the libapng for MorphOS any weeks before.

    Oh i forget... DR2D (Vectorgrafic) is only poor supported. The reason is bad example sourcecode. It suported no bitmaps and oher things.
    And SVG (Vectorgraifc,too...) The libs are ported (many time before) but it did't exist bitmap support (A fail of libsvg or libcairosvg...)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pegasos-sigi2
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    This is rapidly becomming my favourite word processor :-) But you need to do something about the heavy CPU load which really slows things down. It still uses some 20% CPU even in idle (15% when spellchecker is disabled).

    Still, good work!


    The problem is the cursor blinking.
    Without the cpu usage goes down to 0.2%

    I try to find a solution.

    While you are thinking of a solution, why not offer an option to disable the blinking for those who care more about 20% CPU time than an animated cursor?

    Also, I would greatly appreciate if you put a bit more effort in your news submissions as they are regularly rather cryptic. I do not think it is too much to ask that you include at least one sentence explaining the purpose of a particular software project even if the news refers to an update for an application that has been released before.

    [ Edited by ASiegel On 2016/5/1 11:49 ]


    Ok, disabling the blinking is no problem.


    For more information read the ReadMe. Thats the standart .I haven't much time to copy and paste the readme in the news .
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    Calimero - Do you know about the new DTP Program for MorphOS ?
  • »2016/5/1 11:59
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    pegasos-sigi2 Quote:


    You write this lines of text, because you did't like Calimero.

    I would like to be able to say I do like Calimero, but in its current state I cannot say I do, but I hope you address the issues I have mentioned
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    The improvment of Text was stoped, because of comments like yours.

    You mean my comments that say . . . It doesn't work correctly? Surely you are not serious that you don't want realistic feedback?
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    I can't develope against your "FEATURELIST".

    I don't have a featurelist, but if you implement a feature then surely you should strive to make it work correctly, shouldn't you?

    You state in your Aminet ReadMe . . . "Calimero is a powerfull DTP program." Sadly it is not, at this stage of development.

    DTP, means DeskTop Publishing, which means capable of handling text, images, graphics, tables, etc., and incorporating them in a harmonised document. Sadly with Calimero there is no ease or capability of handling text, images...etc, so your boast of it being 'powerful' is not a realistic statement at this stage, sadly.

    I HOPE it will be in the future, but you need to fix the basics, and each feature you add before moving onto some other feature that also doesn't work properly, at least that is how I find Calimero, sadly. I am trying to be fair regarding my observations of how it responds/fails, but you haven't done anything to fix the dis-functional text issues since the last version, so I hope you fix these problems soon.

    You have some great ideas, and features, but they need refining, and most importantly, made to function correctly, and if there is a basic standard for any feature, then it should be made to be harmonious with other OS's - in the way that other programs handle text, and images, so that users can quickly learn to use Calimero intuitively, in the way with modern computer systems you would expect to be able to handle text/images, etc, as there doesn't seem to be any purpose in making your program more difficult/limited for anyone learning to use it..
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    So i include other features (they all did't exists for MorphOS at this time) in the code.

    Those ideas are welcome, and I would encourage you to persist with them, but please fix the features you have partially implemented so that they work stably, and reliably, before moving onto others that also don't fully work and cause issues for system lock-ups/crashes.
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  • »2016/5/2 2:53
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    2. Take a look. It is possible to add polish text, like on other progs, too.
    You must select polish keyboard layout, of cause (Please take look at my screenshot).
    I can write polish text!


    Well, not exactly. You made me try second time and it looks like Polish special characters do work when you write only them. As soon as I write a "normal" letter the program refuses to draw another "special" one. In fact it gets stuck somehow - you can move the cursor, but no letter (be it latin or not) is writable/deletable for a few seconds.

    How did you write Polish letters? Using Alt+letter (in that case - a, c, e, l, n, o, s, z and x) or in any other way?
  • »2016/5/3 7:39
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    For more information read the ReadMe. Thats the standart .I haven't much time to copy and paste the readme in the news .


    You don't have 5 seconds (or less) of time to highlight a few sentences and hit CTRL + C keys, then CTRL + V keys to paste into your news item request? I find it hard to take anything you write in this thread seriously, after reading a comment like the one above.

    MorphOS is greatly needing a "powerful DTP program", so I hope that you will continue to improve and succeed in completing Calimero in the future. Please don't take my criticism of your refusal to copy and paste of some information into your news requests, as an excuse to stop working.
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  • »2016/5/27 20:53
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