Software : : New DTP Program Calimero beta 0.7
Posted By: pegasos-sigi2. on 2015/1/31 16:04:16
Carsten Siegner has released a new beta version of his desktop publishing application Calimero. You can download it via the following link: Calimero_beta_0.7

Features from this beta:

+ Import AmigaGuide, MicrosoftWord 2003 XML, TXT,UTF-8 encodet TXT,
+ Export AmigaGuide, PDF, TXT, ODT, HTML, UTF-8 encodet TXT
+ Postscript Printer Support
+ Multipage handling
+ Treated long pages
+ Multi Column handling (up to three columns)
+ Support of Softpagebreak and Hardpagebreak
+ Header/Footer
+ Separators
+ Hyperlinks in text and grafic)
+ Textwarping
+ Rowstyles (Paragraph/Header 1 - 4)
+ Lists
+ Table of Contents
+ Backgroundtexture
+ Vectorshapes and - text
+ FTP Client (to upload whole websides on a ftp server)
+ Full multitasking (a main task and three sub render tasks)
+ Full object-oriented system

On my ToDo List:
+ Textwarping around pictures
+ Create Ebooks
+ Rotate pages to print them Landscape
+ ODT Import
+ DOC Import

Disabled in this version:

+ PPT Import
I can't get the pictrures from ppt files.
Text only is a little bit poor.
 
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
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    Please tell me the old "cut-the-last-word-in-the-line" bug has been fixed this time...

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    ...or is it?

    Ah, never mind the 0.7 then.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pegasos-sigi2
    Joined: 2006/8/31
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    There are about 300 sites in the program.
    This is the number 298, respectively. ;)

    First of all: Tell me if this first public beta work on your system?
    The Speed... and other thinks .... :)





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    Please tell me the old "cut-the-last-word-in-the-line" bug has been fixed this time...

    J9LZkWB.png

    ...or is it?

    Ah, never mind the 0.7 then.
    Spreedy - The spreedsheet editor of MorphOS
    Calimero - Do you know about the new DTP Program for MorphOS ?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
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    ok, I downloaded this.
    It won't stretch any wider than a certain width.
    Not very useful for DTP if you cannot MUI screen for it from within the app it kept resetting.
    I had to create the MUI screen using Ambient first.
    Nice try, maybe I will give it a shot when it is more mature.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pegasos-sigi2
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    Quote:

    ok, I downloaded this.
    It won't stretch any wider than a certain width.
    Not very useful for DTP if you cannot MUI screen for it from within the app it kept resetting.
    I had to create the MUI screen using Ambient first.
    Nice try, maybe I will give it a shot when it is more mature.


    This is easy to fix :)
    The next version woking with screens.
    Spreedy - The spreedsheet editor of MorphOS
    Calimero - Do you know about the new DTP Program for MorphOS ?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    realstar
    Joined: 2003/2/24
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    The cursor seems a bit slow and lags while typing. For instance try key auto-repeat and the cursor jumps. Loading plain text files the unpack/decode stage takes a long time. Even a 20 or 30k text file takes awhile and I have some files as large as 600k. I wouldn't want to wait 10 or 15 minutes after loading a large file. Vertical scrolling is a bit slow so you can not scroll very smoothly through a document. The font size gadget doesn't let me delete it's contents and accepts letters as well as numbers for input. The program is much more stable with this release and is looking good overall. Save/Use/Cancel not working yet in the settings. MUI window locked to size of document instead of letting the document float in the center of the window. I hope you can improve the refresh and loading speed eventually.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Joined: 2012/11/10
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    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    OK, I gave it a try out, but when I tried to save a document as a PDF all I got was a blank document.

    I tried importing some of the Project files, and often this led to the program "meditating".

    I also noticed that on most occasions if I was also running OWB on a different MUI screen, and tried to load Calimero on the Ambient screen the white bounded 'page' was not shown, and only when I quit OWB did it load this 'page' area as I suppose it is intended to.

    I could not get an image to load and when I did try to do so I just got more "meditation".

    I am not trying it out any more at the moment, as it is certainly not worth the time, effort of getting nowhere, and achieving nothing useful with it currently - which is what bash64 basically said as well.

    I don't think I would call Calimero a "powerful DTP program" as currently it barely does anything it is hoped it will as/when it gets finished.

    The intended features would, once functioning correctly, make it a powerful DTP program, however at this stage it is sadly far from that.

    The text handling is, as the previous member realstar has already mentioned, and I should also add that it is very slow to load, and the cursor operation is still very weird, to any normality I am used to when using a DTP package or even a simple text editor.

    There would need to be a number of keyboard shortcuts implemented to make such a package effective, which at this stage also seem to be lacking in the main.

    I think time on the basics, text operation, and formatting should be given a lot more looking at in detail to fix these issues to get the code to function properly, as you cannot have text loading on such fast NG systems, and for the text to take soooooooo long to load - something must be wrong with that part of the program and desperately needs fixing, before moving onto object drawing, hyphenation, etc.. (IMHO)

    I want the program to succeed, but careful steps to fix each part as you move through programming it need to be taken, rather than doing this, adding that, and none of them at the end of it all working as they should. Implement small, but by all means think big as the ideas are great, and someway to what MorphOS needs as an office application, but if it doesn't work then it won't be of any use to anyone.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pegasos-sigi2
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    The cursor jups,because cairo have a low speed.
    The same reason is the scrolling.
    The fontsize work on my system.
    Save/use/Cancel work. Look at "ENVARC/MUI/Calimero1.prefs" , "ENV:MUI/Calimero1.prefs."

    All oher i must investigate.





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    The cursor seems a bit slow and lags while typing. For instance try key auto-repeat and the cursor jumps. Loading plain text files the unpack/decode stage takes a long time. Even a 20 or 30k text file takes awhile and I have some files as large as 600k. I wouldn't want to wait 10 or 15 minutes after loading a large file. Vertical scrolling is a bit slow so you can not scroll very smoothly through a document. The font size gadget doesn't let me delete it's contents and accepts letters as well as numbers for input. The program is much more stable with this release and is looking good overall. Save/Use/Cancel not working yet in the settings. MUI window locked to size of document instead of letting the document float in the center of the window. I hope you can improve the refresh and loading speed eventually.
    Spreedy - The spreedsheet editor of MorphOS
    Calimero - Do you know about the new DTP Program for MorphOS ?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    I should also add that the font size input window/gadget also suffered from the same problems already reported by realstar.

    I'm sure there are lots of other issues that won't let this program do what it is supposed to do, but fix the text problems first of all, speed of display/rendering, font sizing/changing, etc., and others associated with that before trying to implement objects, and tables, etc.

    I don't mind you having to back-track over issues, as long as they get fixed, and there is some steady, even if it is slow, progress.

    I'm sure we all appreciate you taking all the effort to make this program what you want it to be, but maybe someone could offer you some assistance in doing so - are you still on friendly terms with Claus Desler, as Cinnamon Writer hasn't seen much activity lately, or anyone else in the MorphOS development team?

    So, maybe if you joined efforts on the text issues initially then this program might move forward more quickly, and features get implemented more efficiently.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    save/use/cancel does work but the window does not auto close when picking 'use' or 'save' and the change doesn't take effect until the window is manually closed afterwards.
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