Development : : Directory Opus Magellan II Bounty Plea
Posted By: spotUP. on 2012/3/19 8:24:19
SpotUp writes. "There has been a fair amount of talk recently about unity and co-operation between all of the Amiga camps (OS3, OS4, AROS and MorphOS). Many of us are tired of the divisions that cause many arguments and slow down progess. What we'd like to see is more co-operation between developers and users, just like we had in the good old days...


We now have an opportunity to make progress with this, by supporting the bounty that will open-source the well known and popular Directory Opus Magellan 2 desktop environment.

The bounty is hosted on the Power2People website, which has consistently proven to be trustworthy. Here is a direct link to the bounty:
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/64


Directory Opus Magellan II Bounty Plea


The purpose of the bounty is to collect sufficient funds to purchase the source code of GPSoftware's Directory Opus Magellan II (version 5.82, AmigaOS) for free use on Amiga (and Amiga-like) systems, under the AROS Public License, a derivative of the Mozilla Public License 1.1.

The bounty will be completed when $5600 USD has been raised (now we have 1700, 3900 still left), which gives enough money to meet the price GPSoftware has set for the release of the program source code to a public SVN repository.

So what will the release of the Directory Opus Magellan II source code mean? Firstly, we will have the sources of one of the best pieces of classic Amiga software ever created, free for any Amiga fan to use.

Secondly, as the program will be open-source, developers from all of the Amiga camps will be free to work on a common desktop environment, progressing the cause of unity between us.

Here's is a summary of the benefits, by separate platform, and in total:

AROS
Wanderer is the main desktop environment for AROS, but it's still in the early stages of maturity. Having Directory Opus Magellan will give AROS users a mature desktop environment they can use straight away. This takes the pressure away from Wanderer, as well as giving another choice for AROS users.

AmigaOS4
Whilst Workbench on OS4 is more polished than Wanderer on AROS, there are still some gaps in functionality that Directory Opus Magellan would be able to fill. Worth noting that, when the sources are available in the public SVN, there is already some os4 devs who want to plays with, exploring what is necessary to port it to OS4.

MorphOS
Ambient is the most advanced of all Amiga desktop environments, but there are still nice features found in Directory Opus Magellan II that aren't yet found in Ambient. Porting should be easy as the 68k version already works in MorphOS. To see how it looks running in MorphOS, check out  jPV's tutorial

OS3
Even though official support for OS3 has stopped, there are still plenty of people interested in it, as well as unofficial addons/hacks. It is clear that there will be much interest in having updates to Directory Opus Magellan as well.

The bigger picture: Progressing together
The ports to the separate platforms are only the start of the story. The best news is any improvements made to this software will benefit everyone. Magellan II is great now for those that run it, but having access to the sources means we can make it even better for _ALL_ amiga and amiga like oses.

Short FAQ:

Q: Why are we spending money on this when we can improve our own software instead? Isn't it easier to implement more features in AmigaOS than to spend money replacing it?
A: We don't have many developers, and those we do have are too busy with their own projects to start making a cross-platform desktop. Directory Opus Magellan will be a great way to get this done quickly. Also, the work to improve AmigaOS wouldn't transfer to other Amiga platforms, whereas this work would.

Q: Isn't this software really outdated? Look at those ugly icons!
A: It is no problem at all to replace the icons. As for the age of the software, even MorphOS users that have access to Ambient still sometimes use Directory Opus Magellan. AROS and AmigaOS4 users should enjoy having access to such feature-rich software, with many features not available in their current desktop choices (Workbench, Wanderer or Scalos).

Q: Why is it so much money?
A: $5600 USD sounds like a lot of money for one person, but if we all work together, little by little we can raise the necessary funds.

Q: Who will port it to [insert OS of choice]?
A: Porting software is much easier in comparison with writing software from scratch, pretty much any developer can do it sooner or later. A few developers have already expressed an interest in starting the porting work.

Q: This bounty will only open up the source code, why is this such a good thing?
A: Apart from the chance to port Magellan to all Amiga platforms, it also gives us the chance to improve it.

Q: If we don't reach the bounty target, can we reuse the money elsewhere?
A: Up until the point the target is reached, you always have the choice to receive a refund for the money you've donated.

Q: Has anyone signed a contract with GPSoftware, ensuring that the money we donate will be handled correctly?
A: Power2People are the organisation handling the donations, and have proved themselves to be trustworthy, even with larger sums of money.

So let's reach into our wallets, and show we really want to support unity in the Amiga community, bringing ourselves a great piece of software in the process. Here's the bounty link again:
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/64

We already collect 1/3. We can do it for real !

Thank you all."

Additional information for potential donors from the site administration:
Directory Opus Magellan II was first published in November 1998 so it is now 13 1/2 years old. It is also worth noting that it does not currently use the standard MorphOS graphical user interface toolkit (MUI) but is based on a much older toolkit, which has a lot of limitations.
 
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    Small donation made.
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    amigadave
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    I like to support new software for MorphOS, OS4, OS3 and AROS, but I am having a hard time justifying donating money for this one. It just seems like too much money to open source the code, which does not give us any new software, as then the work can begin to actually do a port of DOpus Magellan II to any of the target platforms. The 68k version already works well on MorphOS, so there is little benefit to open sourcing the code. Also a lot of the functions of DOpus Magellan II already exist in Ambient.

    I purchased DOpus Magellan II many years ago, but I must admit that it was not one of my favorite programs and I rarely used it. There were other programs that did the same things, that I was already used to using, so I did not make DOpus a part of my daily use of an Amiga, like so many other Amiga users did.

    If there were a bounty for a new office application, or even just a really good word processor, I would donate a lot toward that, but I just think that this $5,000+ to open source a program that we already have working, is a waste of money that should be spent elsewhere.

    Sorry to be a voice of opposition for this effort, but that is the way I see it. If you want to educate me as to why my opinion should be changed, feel free to do so, but until then, I will not be donating to this bounty, or encouraging others to do so.
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    i agree 100% with amigadave, not worth it.
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    I also have my doubts but donated a bit. Besides, I trust the bountymoney will be spent for some other project if the bar is not met in reasonable time.
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    From:
    "Additional information for potential donors from the site administration:
    Directory Opus Magellan II was first published in November 1998 so it is now 13 1/2 years old. It is also worth noting that it does not currently use the standard MorphOS graphical user interface toolkit (MUI) but is based on a much older toolkit, which has a lot of limitations."

    Haha wtf!?! Nice going adding a negative vibe to a news post. Bad style. :(
    Try letting your readers make up their own opinion next time.
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    And the topic was changed too... So no co-operation between the camps? That would be bad, yes?
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  • ASiegel
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    @ spotUP

    The submitted post does not constitute a news announcement whatsoever. By and large, it is clearly an opinion piece and should have been posted to the forums section where I can guarantuee that it would not have been edited.

    Unfortunately, another moderator had already accepted the news post so I was being a good sport by merely adapting the news article slightly.

    If I had condensed the text to what are actual facts that had not yet been reported, the text would have been about two sentences long...
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    Before accepting the news-item (be it news-item or not, IMO it deserved to be approved) I checked the other community sites and *all* of them had it posted. Would have been utterly stupid to be the only site not posting it.

    I also want to add that changing the text was unneeded in my opinion, it felt a bit long to me as well but did not want to cut anything out as clearly Spot had good and honest intentions with it. For me as a donator the added text undermines the whole project which is kinda sad as there was quite lively discussion about the bounty on this very site.
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    I really can't see why that text had to be added ? You could have just added a line "I don't want you to donate to this bounty because I think it sucks"
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    I really can&amp;amp;#039;t see why that text had to be added ? You could have just added a line &amp;amp;quot;I don&amp;amp;#039;t want you to donate to this bounty because I think it sucks&amp;amp;quot;


    indeed. the credibility of this site just went away. bigtime. ego's at work.

    [ Edited by spotUP On 2012/3/21 9:18 ]
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    Quote:

    Actually, none of the websites that we list as "Community Websites" in the sidebar of this website had it posted. I am aware that it was accepted on websites such as amiga.org or amigaworld.net that feature news regarding MorphOS as well as similar operating systems. However, there are many news articles that can be found on these websites but not on MorphZone.



    I was indeed referring to AW.net, A.org and Amigans.net (was also found on the finnish amiga users club, probably on other domestic forums aswell). Even if the item is not 100% MorphOS related, approving instead of declining it was the right decision. I'm sure many are with me on this.

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    I am not entirely sure what you refer to. The text has the full and original length. As far as the content is concerned, only the headline was edited to more concisely reflect the content of the news post.


    Just what I said earlier. For a moment I thought of cutting the text into something more informative, like 2-3 lines of text. Thats why I checked many others sites to see if and how they approved it.
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