MorphOS licence (keyfile)
  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    I read somewhere that keyfile works only on the machine it was registered on. So if I upgrade my hardware I have to buy another licence?
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    CISC
    Posts: 618 from 2005/8/27
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    No, you are free to upgrade your machine as much as you want, but when you completely replace the machine you will of course have to get a new license.


    - CISC
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant upgrade from old powermac 466 to high-end mac mini.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2661 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    In that case you will need a new keyfile.
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    Pity.
    I thought licence is fixed to user, not the machine.
    So I will keep rebooting every 30 minutes until I save some money to buy decent hardware. :-(
    I hope system updates are free of charge? 2.8, 2.9, 3.0?
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2067 from 2003/2/24
    Or just buy a faster CPU for that PowerMac (keyfile will stay valid).
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    Nah, Powermac is bulky and noisy. And old. (What if the motherboard dies due to its age???)
    I fancy 1.5GHz mac mini!
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11604 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I hope system updates are free of charge? 2.8, 2.9, 3.0?

    It was said by the MorphOS Team that the current keyfiles were valid at least for all 2.x releases. My personal guess is that 3.0 will require a new keyfile. Or rather the other way round: As soon as they want us to pay again they'll simply call the subsequent release 3.0 ;-)
    Btw, it would be perfectly valid to have 2.8 directly followed by 3.0, or have 2.9 followed by 2.10 and so forth. Mind you, version numbers are not decimal numbers.
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    You're right. I think I will refrain from buying licence until we get Powerbook support, whatever version it would be. (2.38? 4.0? :-) )
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    But it's more expandable and you can make few tricks to make it quiet, just google it. If motherboard dies and you can prove that then Team will provide you a new key for the new machine for free.
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    DiskDoctor
    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
    From: Rzeszow, place...
    Quote:

    Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant upgrade from old powermac 466 to high-end mac mini.


    If You still want to retain all money you have invested, just sell powermac as a complete MorphOS system on ebay. Then You will be ought to afford brand new license more easily, with some money out of the old hardware alone, too.
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    Thanks for replies, guys!
    I'm not gonna buy or sell anything in next few weeks (months?).
    Let me test drive MOS to find out if it is 'My OS' :-)
    You may expect lots of posts from me in 'HELP' section.
    Wait a second, there is no 'help' section in this forum??!! :-o
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11604 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > there is no 'help' section in this forum??!!

    You can consider four of those sub-forums (Hardware, Legacy, Games, Applications) as being also help sections for users:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/index.php?viewcat=3
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4963 from 2009/1/28
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    i have a second motherboard for mine in case my original one craps out, but so gar no problems.
    if i were you I'd definitely consider a CPU upgrade.
    if you hunt you can usually find them fairly cheaply.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    I screwed up and bought an eMac, not realizing how horribly low the volume is, and horribly dark the screen can be.

    Now assuming I bought a different Mac, could I just make a video of the eMac booting up, then me taking a crow bar to it or something so I can prove the machine is dead, then just transfer the key to my new Mac?

    I seriously do not want this eMac in my presence, and I would feel UTTERLY WRONG selling it on eBay as a pre-registered MorphOS machine.
    "I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it." - Jack Handey

    Registered MorphOS user, Amiga user, and Atari 8-bit user.
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  • Jim
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Jim
    Posts: 4963 from 2009/1/28
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    X, why don't you just buy another Mac right now?
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11604 from 2003/5/22
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    > so I can prove the machine is dead, then just transfer the
    > key to my new Mac?

    No matter how dead your eMac would be, it's definitely not you who'd be able to transfer the keyfile but rather the MorphOS Team ;-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jPV
    Posts: 1890 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    My personal guess is that 3.0 will require a new keyfile. Or rather the other way round: As soon as they want us to pay again they'll simply call the subsequent release 3.0 ;-)


    In my opinion, users pay again "naturally" by time when they want to upgrade to newer supported platforms. I'm not sure if there is reason to make people repay for older aging platforms.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11604 from 2003/5/22
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    > In my opinion, users pay again "naturally" by time when they want to
    > upgrade to newer supported platforms. I'm not sure if there is reason
    > to make people repay for older aging platforms.

    Yes, that sounds plausible and like a good plan to go with. Let's see if they'll do it that way.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    Quote:

    Now assuming I bought a different Mac, could I just make a video of the eMac booting up, then me taking a crow bar to it or something so I can prove the machine is dead, then just transfer the key to my new Mac?



    shhhh! yes you can but only over night and without witness :-)

    ps- please don't spread
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  • jPV
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jPV
    Posts: 1890 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    > In my opinion, users pay again "naturally" by time when they want to
    > upgrade to newer supported platforms. I'm not sure if there is reason
    > to make people repay for older aging platforms.

    Yes, that sounds plausible and like a good plan to go with. Let's see if they'll do it that way.


    Yeah. Actually this kind of sales model could be an advantage of the hardware tied keyfile. To compensate many disadvantages people are bringing up. No need to sell separate or new versions, but still get the upgrade income and old computers left in spare use wouldn't just be left to obsolete completely either. Also if it would be taken as an official strategy, people wouldn't worry about if the next version would be free to upgrade or not. It would encourage to register at any time.

    In any case, all updates have been free so far and I believe they will be in the near future too, but I've read many comments about the worry here and there.
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