Morphos ppc demos
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    Hello, don't know how to put this question, so if it fits better on another place, moderators feel free to move it.
    The question is: Are pegasos ppc demos working in mos 2.4?
    I tried fluffy snowflakes from amiga demoscene archive, and it begins and shows the first image, then quits, and show an unexpected quit.
    Are ppc demos still compatible with version 2.4, or i need to run it under another software in mos?.
    Thanks in advance!!!
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
  • »26.10.09 - 14:21
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 730 from 2003/2/24
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    @_ThEcRoW

    Some demos are designed for Permedia2, others require a 15bit screenmode... Others (just a few) require MorphOS1.4.x and old 3D tinyGL/rave (Fluffy Digital Snowflakes was released when MorphOS2.x was not released yet and has a compatibility flag for 1.x but I have not tested it with MorphOS2.4) . I have noticed that a good bunch of MAWI demos work. Try final versions of latest Elude demos as these usually work (I had to dig a little to find Soliloquy really final version). Multiverse from Loonies works quite well. Demos done with Krabob's Karate usually works quite well too.

    The most compatible hardware to run WarpOS demos is probably MorphOS 1.4.x running on a classic amiga with a Permedia2 :-)

    [ Edited by Crumb on 2009/10/26 17:17 ]
  • »26.10.09 - 15:03
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    Then, there is no backward compatibility on mos 2.4 with mos 1.4.x?
    Will try the demos you suggested.
    Thanks for the reply!!!
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
  • »27.10.09 - 19:15
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    guruman
    Posts: 461 from 2003/7/22
    As far as I can tell, MorphOS 2.x seems 100% (or almost, I don't remember any problem though) compatible with 1.4.5. Just like with MorphOS 1.4.5 to run Fluffy Digital Snowflakes you need to type from CLI

    MWI+SPD-FDS.exe -old

    Other demos that work:
    Elude 68k ones, the MaWi demos you can download from here at MorphZone, Encore ones, some of the old PPC demos from Venus Arts, some old WarpOS demos from Mankind, Zero from Universe (for AOS4 using os4emu). Another native one is BX GL1 from Bluebox Cinematique (has a nice blue butterfly and a blue teme).

    Kind regards,
    Andrea
  • »27.10.09 - 21:35
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 730 from 2003/2/24
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    what Encore demos run on 2.4?
  • »27.10.09 - 22:00
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    guruman
    Posts: 461 from 2003/7/22
    I just tried and ByNight and Sulaco still work nicely as they always did, at least in window (did not try fullscreen). I think I downloaded them years ago here at MorphZone. I do show them at events/meetings where I bring my machines from time to time.

    Kind regards,
    Andrea
  • »27.10.09 - 22:24
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 730 from 2003/2/24
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    I'll redownload the Encore demos as I took the files from my pre-April and I guess the files were corrupted :-P
  • »28.10.09 - 12:39
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    Thanks for the info guruman!!!. I will download and try these demos and tell what happened.
    Thanks!!!
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
  • »28.10.09 - 14:11
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    One offtopic question: Is there a decompressor on morphos 2.4. I can get inside the .zip files, but couldnt extract them. Do i need to place unzip, lha, and the rest on C, just like in the classics?
    Thanks in advance!!!
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
  • »28.10.09 - 14:24
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    Quote:

    _ThEcRoW wrote:
    One offtopic question: Is there a decompressor on morphos 2.4. I can get inside the .zip files, but couldnt extract them. Do i need to place unzip, lha, and the rest on C, just like in the classics?


    LhA is included with MorphOS, for zip archives you can use XADUnFile to extract. XADUnFile works with any archive type supported by xadmaster.library, XADLibInfo will give you a list.
  • »28.10.09 - 16:15
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    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    If Ambient can show the inside of ZIP files then you can extract them. Just select the files/directories and copy them elsewhere. They will be extracted in the process...
  • »28.10.09 - 19:15
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    I already tried to copy and paste the files iside the .zip that ambient show, but always got an error saying it can't be done. Is something that is needed to configure?. Coping the files inside the .zip should work normally?.
    I tried but no luck.
    Thanks!!!
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
  • »28.10.09 - 22:35
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    CountRaven
    Posts: 566 from 2007/12/11
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    Why do not you just right click the file, selecting extract To...? This would do the trick.
  • »29.10.09 - 07:25
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    most demos (at least the newer/good ones) from fit have a morphos port:
    http://www.kameli.net/fit/

    Several very nice demos (at least those which have a linux port) from traction
    http://pouet.net/groups.php?which=1270&order=thumbup
    also have sources available and probably can be easily ported to morphos
    (they use sdl, opengl - and for audio fmod which can be easily replaced wiht sdl-mixer -
    did so some years ago, to watch/hear those on my pegasos)
  • »29.10.09 - 07:52
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jcmarcos
    Posts: 1178 from 2003/3/13
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    Quote:

    Frostwork wrote:

    they use sdl, opengl - and for audio fmod


    Are you sure those are demos? From what you say, they are constructed more like an office suite ;-)

    (I guess I'm too old for this shit)
  • »29.10.09 - 08:25
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    There is no extract to... option using the right button on a .zip file. Already tried that.
    Mac Mini G4 1,4ghz 1gb ram & MorphOS 3.11
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    Posts: 2026 from 2003/2/24
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    _ThEcRoW wrote:
    There is no extract to... option using the right button on a .zip file. Already tried that.



    Then add it yourself with Ambient's Mime prefs :) Take a look for lha how it's done for an example... it's very handy to make all options you ever want for each filetype.
  • »29.10.09 - 16:31
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    You can only extract from zip (or other supported xadmaster formats) archives. There's not write access. I have the feeling you're trying to copy *to* the zip archive instead of copying *from* it.
    So, just drag files you see in the zip archives and drop them to ram: or so.

    And of course, like said above, you can also override the actions as you want, and use unzip or xadunfile instead, if you prefer.
  • »29.10.09 - 16:52
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Posts: 140 from 2003/9/16
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    _ThEcRoW wrote:
    There is no extract to... option using the right button on a .zip file. Already tried that.



    Oh c?mon! Thank to god, we?re not that sophisticated as other OSes!

    Think miggies way. Open the zip with double click on it. Switch the view to all files.Select the files and copy?em over you wanna have it extracted ( ie ram: )

    Thats it
  • »29.10.09 - 18:40
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12073 from 2003/5/22
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    > I just tried and ByNight and Sulaco still work nicely as they always did, at least
    > in window (did not try fullscreen).

    Here (Mac mini) they don't work. I just get a grey screen (fullscreen mode) or an empty window (window mode), nothing more.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
    Posts: 1246 from 2004/2/8
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    Same here on Efika. Strange, as Krashan reports they work OK.
  • »11.12.09 - 16:14
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
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    I've only tested demos uploaded to MorphOS Files on Pegasos 2. Then after reports that Encore demos fail on Efika, I've checked it and indeed both "Sulaco" and "By Night" didn't work.

    But then kiero sent me an updated version of "snd_server", which plays music in these demos. After replacing original with kiero version, both demos work on Efika (tested). Both demos repacked with new "snd_server" are uploaded to MorphOS Files as "1.1" version. I hope they also work on Mac mini, but have no hardware to test.

    [ Edited by Krashan on 2009/12/11 20:36 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12073 from 2003/5/22
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    > kiero sent me an updated version of "snd_server", which plays music in these
    > demos. After replacing original with kiero version, both demos work on Efika (tested).
    > Both demos repacked with new "snd_server" are uploaded to MorphOS Files as "1.1"
    > version. I hope they also work on Mac mini, but have no hardware to test.

    Both demos are running fine now on Mac mini. Thanks to you and kiero.
  • »12.12.09 - 00:55
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