PPaint port for MorphOS
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Gelb
    Posts: 148 from 2003/3/4
    From: #amigazeux
    Several months ago there were big news about PPaint being ported to MorphOS.

    Now my question is if there is any progress with the port and maybe even an estimated release date.

    Any info regarding the port is greatly appreciated.
  • »11.11.05 - 21:59
    Profile Visit Website
  • Moderator
    Senex
    Posts: 492 from 2003/2/17
    From: Hannover / Ger...
    Someone agreed to work on it some days ago, but he's still very busy with other projects until the end of the year - but after that, he's willing to take on the project.
  • »12.11.05 - 05:06
    Profile Visit Website
  • Leo
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Leo
    Posts: 415 from 2003/8/18
    hugh... The port has been announced months ago (maybe a year), and some *days* ago someone *aggreed* (!) to work on it ?

    Isn't there something wrong ?

    I asked about it to Cloanto directly several months ago and was told it was in the hands of the porter...

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
  • »12.11.05 - 08:30
    Profile Visit Website
  • Moderator
    Senex
    Posts: 492 from 2003/2/17
    From: Hannover / Ger...
    @Leo

    Well, I guess if the porter would get paid for his work, it might have been / could be done faster - don't know.

    Of course in case the porter would see sense in creating a bounty for this, I'd happily donate as well, since I'm really looking forward to the MorphOS version of PPaint.
  • »12.11.05 - 09:09
    Profile Visit Website
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Bladerunner
    Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19
    Senex:
    Could it be that you mixed PerfectPaint, which is written in BlitzBasic and where the Source was given away latley, with Cloantos PersonalPaint?
    Just a guess, but the only news about something with a second P in Paint, was that on amiga-news about Perfect Paint :)
  • »12.11.05 - 11:23
    Profile
  • Moderator
    Senex
    Posts: 492 from 2003/2/17
    From: Hannover / Ger...
    No, I do mean Cloanto's PPaint. - Since I had been curious about the port myself a few weeks ago, I approached bbrv about it and then asked someone if he wouldn't knew someone who would be skilled enough and willing to do the port.
  • »12.11.05 - 12:14
    Profile Visit Website
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    BatteMan
    Posts: 199 from 2003/2/24
    From: Vesoul | France
    Take a look at this old news : http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&nid=596&si=1

    You can see Personal Paint ;-)

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2005/11/12 13:27 ]
    Webmaster of http://www.annuaire-amiga.org
  • »12.11.05 - 12:18
    Profile Visit Website
  • Leo
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Leo
    Posts: 415 from 2003/8/18
    So: correct me if I'm wrong...

    A year and 11 months ago, it was announced that PPaint would be ported to MorphOS but back then Genesi had no intention, and/or not the money to pay someone to do it ?

    Now that's great...

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
  • »12.11.05 - 13:33
    Profile Visit Website
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    BatteMan
    Posts: 199 from 2003/2/24
    From: Vesoul | France
    Leo : It's coming... Just wait, we know to do that now :-D

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2005/11/12 14:58 ]
    Webmaster of http://www.annuaire-amiga.org
  • »12.11.05 - 13:57
    Profile Visit Website
  • Leo
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Leo
    Posts: 415 from 2003/8/18
    @Batt: My pegasos is broken: I can't wait anymore...

    Plus I don't really like to wait just to here that sort of things.

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
  • »12.11.05 - 17:31
    Profile Visit Website
  • Moderator
    hooligan
    Posts: 1934 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    Theres nothing about an OS4 version either.. personally I think it was just bullshit-speak and high hopes with no real basis.

    By open sourcing it we'd have PPaint10 by now :)
    www.mikseri.net/hooligan <- Free music
  • »12.11.05 - 18:47
    Profile Visit Website
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    BatteMan
    Posts: 199 from 2003/2/24
    From: Vesoul | France
    This is the news of the OS4 port of PPaint : http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1130

    Since, we don't have a news too.

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2005/11/12 21:49 ]
    Webmaster of http://www.annuaire-amiga.org
  • »12.11.05 - 20:48
    Profile Visit Website
  • Leo
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Leo
    Posts: 415 from 2003/8/18
    I don't care about the OS4 version: it could have been released a year ago, or it could be released in 2010, that wouldn't change anything.

    What game are they playing by announcing something they know that cannot happen ?

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
  • »13.11.05 - 09:17
    Profile Visit Website
  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1514 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    AFAIK some parts of PPaint are written in assembly...
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
  • »13.11.05 - 16:21
    Profile
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2530 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:


    itix wrote:
    AFAIK some parts of PPaint are written in assembly...


    Hmm, I wonder how much of a problem could that be?

    IMHO 68k binaries as such are OK, as long as the program works with MorphOS. Of course, doing changes to assembly might not be as fast and easy as in C ...
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »14.11.05 - 17:45
    Profile
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > What game are they playing by announcing something they know that cannot happen ?

    It's finally there, about a decade late:

    "After several attempts by different teams over the years, Andy Broad was able to successfully bring back to life and update the original 7.1 code branch in 2014. The priority of the 7.2 release [...] was to validate stability and compatibility following the build platform change [...]. New features of Personal Paint 7.2 include: Source code updated to create dual native 68K and PowerPC (AmigaOS 4) builds [...]"
    http://www.amigaforever.com/classic/ppaint/

    Click the link for a list of further enhancements. The m68k build of 7.2 should work fine on MorphOS, I think.
  • »27.06.14 - 23:21
    Profile
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    Update:

    > The m68k build of 7.2 should work fine on MorphOS, I think.

    ...or that of 7.3:

    http://www.a-eon.biz/PDF/AMIstore_Brochure_PersonalPaint_68k.pdf
  • »07.10.14 - 15:06
    Profile
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    NewSense
    Posts: 690 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK...
    Yes, but for those of us who have the Amiga Forever 2013 package, who were updated to the AF2014 version as a free update, the PPaint v7.2+ is not part of that update it seems, unless someone else has found the latest version in their AF2014 automatic update.

    I did send a message to Amiga Forever / Cloanto, but I have not had a reply back from Michael Battilana, from when the 2014 update was released, so it seems PPaint v7.2+ is not going to be part of the 'free' update. :-(
    MacMini 1.5GHz,Model 10.2,64MB VRAM,250GB HDD,1GB RAM,Airport, Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL+CD-RW,Iomega MiniMax,Belkin 6 port 3 x Firewire/3 x USB2,MorphOS 3.11,Mac OSX 10.4/10.5,A1138+A1139 PwrBk MOS v3.11,Model 5,8/5,9
  • »07.10.14 - 16:15
    Profile
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1018 from 2013/5/24
    From: Englistan
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    Update:

    > The m68k build of 7.2 should work fine on MorphOS, I think.

    ...or that of 7.3:

    http://www.a-eon.biz/PDF/AMIstore_Brochure_PersonalPaint_68k.pdf


    Quote:

    Error Retrieving Document

    Page does not exist or there has been a problem displaying page.
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.9

    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, OSX 10.5.8, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
  • »09.10.14 - 10:11
    Profile
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> http://www.a-eon.biz/PDF/AMIstore_Brochure_PersonalPaint_68k.pdf

    > Error Retrieving Document
    > Page does not exist or there has been a problem displaying page.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=9932&start=8
  • »09.10.14 - 12:21
    Profile
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    Update:

    >> The m68k build of 7.2 should work fine on MorphOS, I think.

    > ...or that of 7.3

    "A-EON will exclusively develop and own all future AmigaOS versions of Personal Paint (including possible MorphOS and AROS ports)."
    http://www.a-eon.biz/?news=27-11-2014

    "future Amiga versions of Personal Paint (including possible MorphOS and AROS ports) will be developed by A-EON."
    http://www.amigaforever.com/classic/ppaint/
  • »27.11.14 - 19:17
    Profile
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    eliot
    Posts: 476 from 2004/4/15
    Yes, but seems to require an app-store - no interest on my side ...
    regards
    eliot
  • »28.11.14 - 14:06
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1514 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    Update:

    >> The m68k build of 7.2 should work fine on MorphOS, I think.

    > ...or that of 7.3

    "A-EON will exclusively develop and own all future AmigaOS versions of Personal Paint (including possible MorphOS and AROS ports)."
    http://www.a-eon.biz/?news=27-11-2014



    "If we can get enough confirmed users willing to buy it on AROS, I don't see why not? Probably around 180 users willing to buy would be enough break even (rough estimate) and cover a few hundred hours development time."

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7260&start=100#93765

    Even half of that would be very good number. It is not really new software, many have bought older version already and PPC native recompile is not really an improvement to justify rebuying.

    That is, I dont see any reason to support MorphOS native version at this time. Not from MorphOS user or A-eon POV. But that is just my opinion.

    Edit: apparently there is some confusion over there. 180 sold copies is apparently meant for developing new version with new features.

    [ Edited by itix 29.11.2014 - 19:49 ]
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
  • »29.11.14 - 16:13
    Profile
  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1514 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    68k version is again available here.
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
  • »29.11.14 - 16:40
    Profile
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Yasu
    Posts: 1723 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    180 sold copies doesn't seem impossible. That is maybe one in every 5 active user or more (my personal estimate). It all depends on price, festures and timespan of course.
    AMIGA FORUM - Hela Sveriges Amigatidning!
    AMIGA FORUM - Sweden's Amiga Magazine!

    My MorphOS blog
  • »29.11.14 - 22:34
    Profile Visit Website