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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2033 from 2003/6/4
    Rumours of the XBox 360 seem to become more solid close before the official product presentation.
    The numbers are impressive, but it must be proven still what's the truth behind those numbers.

    It's said to include a triple core PPC at 3.2 ghz, each core with an altivec unit, a common 1 Mb L2 cache amd 512 MB Ram.

    An Interesting detail will be the cooling system, since IBMs current 970 is not really a low energy chip.

    The initial price should be 300 US$

    Well, we will see more details on Thursday.
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  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    Posts: 47 from 2004/4/11
    From: Berlin
    Pfui!
    Burn XBOX!
    Bye
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    poundsmack
    Posts: 1346 from 2003/6/8
    From: USA California
    those specs are fake. the ones posted on IS news were a hoax. the real specs as it is known now are here LINK
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1212 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    still an impressive piece of hardware for a reasonable price, i can't wait to see a linux distribution on it, could be impressive for a low cost linux box.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    minator
    Posts: 365 from 2003/3/28
    Quote:

    hose specs are fake. the ones posted on IS news were a hoax. the real specs as it is known now are here LINK


    Until Microsoft releases them they're all fakes.

    However, the specs on ActiveWin are very similar to similar to what was released last year.

    In any case they're not that far away from your link, only the CPU speed and memory appear different. Both things which could potentially change right until production begins.

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    An Interesting detail will be the cooling system, since IBMs current 970 is not really a low energy chip.


    They are not 970's, they are a completely new design, there is no direct equivalent to these CPUs on the market today.

    MS has a patent on a cooling system for the XBox which involves using a heat pipe to transfer heat from the GPU cooler to the CPU cooler! In other words these things will run sufficiently cool that the cooler has excess capacity!

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    Well, we will see more details on Thursday.


    Thursday night on MTV I believe...
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    For Nintendo revolution the rumours are:

    - IBM G5 four core at 2.5Ghz, 128KB L1 cache and 512Kb L2 cache.

    - GPU ATI RN520 double core.

    Those specs said to be true, but it seems a joke, excesivelly powerful for a console and even more than the better mac...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    poundsmack
    Posts: 1346 from 2003/6/8
    From: USA California
    no next gen console will be using a G5 at all! and they cant even make dual care G5's not a 970 (if u dont believe me go to macrumors.com there are extensive debates) at least not as they are now. it would also not be a G5 because a console would not need that kind of processor (look at the CELL for example, crippled math processing, vastly reduced instruction cycles.) these chips are custom made for the systems.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    minator
    Posts: 365 from 2003/3/28
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    hose specs said to be true, but it seems a joke, excesivelly powerful for a console and even more than the better mac...


    I found the site where this came from, there's additional details.

    It'll not be a G5, it'll be the same base core as the XBox uses.
    Theoretical computing speed should be remarkably similar to the XBox, the use of a bigger L1 probably necessitates the lower clock but it's lower latency than the shared L2 of the XBox. Wonder have they also increased the number of registers.

    The GPU sounds interesting, rather than using a super fast one they appear? to be using 2 smaller slower ones. The extra on-board RAM will make a big difference though.

    The above doesn't sound too far out given the Cell and XBox specs we've seen. It also mentions the PPU is also present but I'm sceptical about that, it might be cheap though so who knows.

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    Looks like all 3 consoles are going to be complete monsters, PS3 will just be the biggest.


    Meanwhile I'm off to play minesweeper...
  • »11.05.05 - 22:08
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    minator
    Posts: 365 from 2003/3/28
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    they cant even make dual core G5's


    You do know the G5 is derived from the POWER4 which is a dual core processor made since 2002...

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    (look at the CELL for example, crippled math processing, vastly reduced instruction cycles.) these chips are custom made for the systems.


    I'd hardly call 5 times faster than anything else on the market crippled!
    That said you're quite correct in that dual precision isn't what it could be, but that doesn't mean it'll stay that way.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    poundsmack
    Posts: 1346 from 2003/6/8
    From: USA California
    CELL is fast, but there is a difrerentce in speed and capability. an UltraSPARC IV chip running at 1.4 gigz is just as fast (powerfull) as a P4 at 3.8 gigz. u could also compare PPC to PC processors. as for dual core G5. yes the POWER 4it is derived from is dual core. but derived from is the operative statment here. a single core G5 past 2.3 gigz needs to be watter cooled due to heat, 2 cores at any sort of speed close to that would be a toaster oven. i would probably go sterill sitting next to it.

    [ Edited by poundsmack on 2005/5/11 22:00 ]
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  • Butterfly
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    mdma
    Posts: 85 from 2003/5/4
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    poundsmack wrote:
    those specs are fake. the ones posted on IS news were a hoax. the real specs as it is known now are here LINK


    Did you mean the ones on OS news?

    They weren't fake, as the offical specs have been released by Microsoft and they are exactly the same.
    http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm
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  • Butterfly
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    robjoh
    Posts: 79 from 2004/11/25
    From: Sweden
    Just wait some days and we will al know bouth the xbox360 and nintendo revolution. But actuly what should I have all this power for? My Gamecube is still enough, but in some years when the prices has gone down I might buy a Revolution box, it should be compatible with GameCube.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    poundsmack
    Posts: 1346 from 2003/6/8
    From: USA California
    ya i was wrong about the specs, my bad
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  • Butterfly
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    robjoh
    Posts: 79 from 2004/11/25
    From: Sweden
    The revolution is here, and damn it looks hot. I must say that next time I buy a consol it will be Nintendo revolution it looks nice, and I do think that it can ive me exactly what I want ;)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    poundsmack
    Posts: 1346 from 2003/6/8
    From: USA California
    out of all the consoles it has the least info on it. how do u know its what u want
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1212 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    forget the xbox360 and Nintendo Revolution

    check the PS3 specs and videos...
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    realstar
    Posts: 298 from 2003/2/24
    From: Canada
    I am definately most interested in the Revolution,
    but the PS3 is looking nice too. Revolution with
    full backwards compatiblility with all Nintendo
    consoles built in, plus new online content is going
    to rule. PS3 backward compatible was a big surprise
    too and there are a lot of good games available at
    launch for Revolution and PS3 just due to their back
    catalogs.

    PS3 looks to offer the most in terms of hardware
    specification and will also have very strong publisher
    support as usual, the PSP and DS connectivity of both
    systems is going to be important too. I am quite happy
    with what I am seeing from Nintendo and Sony this time
    around. 2006 will be an exciting year in gaming that's
    for sure. :)
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  • Butterfly
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    robjoh
    Posts: 79 from 2004/11/25
    From: Sweden
    Well the specs and info about the revolution was revilled yesterday, www.nintendo.com

    As a swede I am reding the specs at www.nintendo.se

    And thinks like that I will be abell to download old nintende games to the revolution, a true goal to go for online gaming. And games like Mario, Zelda and final phantasy...what more do I need?
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    PlayStation 3 VS X-Box360


    Flopwise PS3 is wiping the floors with Xbox
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Quote:

    Flopwise PS3 is wiping the floors with Xbox

    Are you saying that PS3 will be a bigger flop than Xbox? :-D
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    Quote:

    Are you saying that PS3 will be a bigger flop than Xbox?


    That way too.. like this I will leave the arena as the winner no matter what happens ;-)
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  • Butterfly
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    Ronald
    Posts: 80 from 2004/3/17
    From: Québec
    I saw Tina (DOA4)... 8-D


    I will be dead broke by the end of the year. :lol:
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jcmarcos
    Posts: 1178 from 2003/3/13
    From: Pinto, Madrid ...
    Yessss... As it's known that Ralph Schmidt (father of MorphOS) uses to play with his XBox, he should be porting MorphOS to this XBox 360 immediately!

    c'mon, laire, we know
    you are listening!

    :-D
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    DethKnight
    Posts: 139 from 2003/6/24
    From: Central USA
    Formula 1
    and
    Mobile Suit Gundam
    and
    Heavenly Sword

    are the only games previewed at E3 that interested me

    The "leaf-vortex" and the LIDAR terrain demos were also nearly impressive.

    the 360 presentatoin almost put me to sleep simply due to the predictability of the M$ rhetoric
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Phantom
    Posts: 381 from 2004/9/7
    Well, I don't care about XBox (XShit of Microsoft), because I am sure PS3 will be much better. Sony knows how not to lose the game... hehehe :-D :-D
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