Chipmem and PPaint
  • dan
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    Posts: 55 from 2004/4/11
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    I´m thinking about buying a pegII(yes I´m thinking about it again as I had a nasty winxp crash a week ago):-( I also noted that a pc is similar to a tv, I never play around with graphic and music like I did on my A1200

    I have two questions
    1.) How does the chip ram emulation work in MOS?

    2.) PPaint does work right? Does the ppc-blitter library from aminet work on Mos? Can PPaint on MOS load really big pictures like when on UAE with 8MB chip?
  • »30.03.05 - 23:09
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    Toto
    Posts: 268 from 2003/4/20
    Hi,

    1. There's no chip ram in Mos.
    2. PPaint works just fine and it loads really big pictures. I've just tested it with a big marspanorama picture (6283x1090 pixels - 4.4MB).

    You can also use TVPaint.

    -Toto
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    DoctorMorbius_FP
    Posts: 315 from 2004/2/14
    From: Naples - Italy
    @Dan & Toto

    Quote:

    1. There's no chip ram in Mos.

    Well, this is true, but MorphOS let all 68k programs see a fake chipmem (always fixed at 2 MBytes) for compatibility reasons. This works fine unless 68k programs explicitly search for Amiga hardware chips.

    @Toto

    Quote:

    2. PPaint works just fine and it loads really big pictures.

    However it is difficult to set up PPaint in order to have a working configuration. I never had sufficient patience to do this. :-( Can you provide me the configuration file, please? :-D

    Cheers,
    Dr.Morbius
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  • »31.03.05 - 17:22
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    Posts: 55 from 2004/4/11
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    Thanks for the info.
    fiddling around with the configs is part of what I want to get back to, Windows is just so illogical.
    I saw in your review that you manage to get DPaint running, thats amazing.



    [ Edited by dan on 2005/3/31 20:48 ]
  • »31.03.05 - 20:47
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    Toto
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    Check your mail :-D

    -toto
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    BigGun
    Posts: 150 from 2004/6/18
    From: Nagold - Germany
    Hi Toto,

    I'm also very interested in using PPaint.
    I've liked and used PPaint a lot in the good old days. Could you send me the How-to too ?


    Cheers
    Gunnar
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    DedyAmigo
    Posts: 41 from 2003/7/19
    From: Czech Republic
    @Toto

    hi, I want a config file for PPaint too, please send me it.
    Thx and regards

    DedyAmigo
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    koszer
    Posts: 1246 from 2004/2/8
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    How about a dedicated web page or something? I guess a lot of people would be interested in that...
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    BatteMan
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    Yes, I'm interresting too. Can you explain all your tricks ? Thx !
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
  • »01.04.05 - 12:22
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    Toto
    Posts: 268 from 2003/4/20
    @all

    I've attached my prefs file, it's for Radeon, put it in your ppaint prefs dir. I don't remember exactly how I configured it because I configured it a couple of years ago ;-)

    I'm gone check it later this weekend and post the results here.

    Attaching a file doesn't work, you can download it here

    -toto

    [ Edited by Toto on 2005/4/1 12:42 ]
  • »01.04.05 - 12:35
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    Many thanks for your configuration, Toto!

    I never received your e-mail (maybe you did not remove the anti-spam REMOVE word from the address), but downloaded the file from the web address you provided. PPaint run perfectly with your configuration just at the first attempt (it seems that we have the same graphics board).

    After having solved all my problems, I started an experiment to find the root of the problem. Since the configuration file of PPaint is a text file, I edited all the lines of my file that were different from yours and substituted them one at a time, trying to run PPaint at each step. I did this picking the lines in various different orders. In such a way I discovered that, actually, only two lines in the configuration file are the real cause of all the problems.

    I assume that the user has already set the DISPLAY mode and the SCREENW and SCREENH parameters. In my case:

    DISPLAY = 0x40920004 ; Radeon9000: 8Bit 1280 x 1024
    SCREENW = 1280
    SCREENH = 1024

    (Maybe it is better to start with a less demanding 640×480 resolution.)

    Then the first line that must be modified is almost obvious (we don't have the Amiga chip set):

    BLITLIBS = "personal_agnus_blit.library", "personal_68000_blit.library", 1

    must be changed to

    BLITLIBS = "personal_agnus_blit.library", "personal_68000_blit.library", 0

    Actually, I already tried this change one year ago, but it is not sufficient to solve all problems. In fact there is a second mandatory change (that is absolutely not obvious, at least for me):

    PRINTSYS = 0x40, 0, 0, 0, 0

    must be changed to

    PRINTSYS = 0x40, 2, 0, 7, 5

    Now the screen that the program opens is not full of graphics garbage, and the user is free to modify any other item of his configuration as he wishes. (Tested only by me on my machine! Other users are strongly suggested to report in this thread their results.)

    Cheers,
    Dr.Morbius

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