ScoutNG does not work
  • MDW
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    Posts: 388 from 2003/7/25
    From: Wroclaw/Poland
    I can not run ScoutNG 1.5 (from icon). If I try to run the application from CLI I see this error message:
    'ObjC: no valid class structure found for cl OBURL"

    Is it only my problem? Could I do something?
  • »10.11.22 - 19:06
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2725 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
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    MDW wrote:
    I can not run ScoutNG 1.5 (from icon). If I try to run the application from CLI I see this error message:
    'ObjC: no valid class structure found for cl OBURL"

    Is it only my problem? Could I do something?


    Sounds like your MOSYS files are outdated. Reinstalling 3.17 ought to fix this (just apply the update again).
  • »10.11.22 - 19:38
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  • MDW
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    Sounds like your MOSYS files are outdated. Reinstalling 3.17 ought to fix this (just apply the update again).

    It is very strange . I don't touch MOSSYS. Maybe I have is SYS something what overrides something in MOSSYS...

    I will try the update after backup. :)
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1052 from 2010/1/6
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    Very interessting. I try to use here Scout V1.5 (25.09.2020) from MOS 3.7 ISO and installed MOS 3.17 on a G5, but I get following error-message:
    This Scout built is bound to MorphOS 3.14/3.15!
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  • »10.11.22 - 20:45
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    Sounds like your MOSYS files are outdated. Reinstalling 3.17 ought to fix this (just apply the update again).

    I updated MorphOS 3.17 from USB but ScoutNG still doesn't work. :(
    On clean MorphOS 3.17 (run from USB with MorphOS ISO image) the problem also occurs.

    [ Edited by MDW 11.11.2022 - 00:59 ]
  • »10.11.22 - 22:50
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    Papiosaur wrote:
    Problems with your harddrive maybe ? bad sectors ?

    Try SFSDoctor maybe...


    Unfortunately if I run my PowerBookG4 form USB pendrive (clean system from morphos-3.17.iso), result is the same.
  • »11.11.22 - 10:21
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    jacadcaps
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    Quote:

    ObjC: no valid class structure found for cl OBURL


    ob.framework in MOSSYS:Classes/Frameworks is outdated

    Quote:

    This Scout built is bound to MorphOS 3.14/3.15!


    This means you are booting a 3.17 installation but using an older boot.img
  • »11.11.22 - 12:56
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    Amigaharry2
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    No, boot.img is 3.17 too! (as you can see in attatched pics).
    Otherwise I would also run in troubles with Wayfarer ......
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  • »11.11.22 - 16:08
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    Scout (the one in the Tools directory, 1.5) works here (pbook). But it seems I have an older Scout (1.2) in my Utilities directory and that gives the "ObjC: no valid class structure found for cl OBURL" error (for what it's worth)...
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  • »11.11.22 - 16:29
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  • MDW
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    Problem resolved! Scout NG works on my machine. :)

    Scout 1.5 (2020-01-12, 1036932 bytes) from MorphOS Storage doesn't work.
    Scout 1.5 (2020-09-25, 346270 bytes) from Tools directory of MorphOS 3.17 works.

    [ Edited by MDW 11.11.2022 - 17:57 ]
  • »11.11.22 - 16:57
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    jacadcaps
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    @papiosaur

    Best if you remove it from MorphOS Storage...
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1052 from 2010/1/6
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    My problem is'nt solved - both versions dont work here...(or on any other machine with MOS I own.)
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  • »11.11.22 - 17:29
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    What attached pics? What's the output if you type version in a shell?
  • »11.11.22 - 17:50
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1052 from 2010/1/6
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    Sorry, mixed up two therads! But here you can see - tested it on this PM_G5. (It's the thread about CPU-temperature....)

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9353&forum=11&start=35

    Version gives MOS 3.17 for sure...

    Code:
    Neuer Shell-Prozess 6
    Ram Disk:> version
    MorphOS 3.17, Ambient 1.46, Kickstart 51.53
    Ram Disk:> version scout_NG
    Scout 1.5
    Ram Disk:>


    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 11.11.2022 - 22:30 ]
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  • »11.11.22 - 21:29
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    Posts: 552 from 2003/2/24
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    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Code:
    Ram Disk:> version scout_NG
    Scout 1.5
    Ram Disk:>


    That doesn't sound like SYS:Tools/Scout
  • »11.11.22 - 22:31
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1052 from 2010/1/6
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    Found out, that there seems to be 2 versions of Scout V1.5 (both built 25.09.2020):

    44685657te.jpeg

    Right Scout does'nt work, while left version runs well........What's the difference.....??

    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 12.11.2022 - 08:56 ]
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  • »12.11.22 - 07:49
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    What's the difference?

    As the requester states the old version is bound to older MorphOS version and will not run on 3.17.
  • »12.11.22 - 10:43
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    Amigaharry2
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    With same version number and same buit-time ???
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  • »12.11.22 - 18:32
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    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    With same version number and same buit-time ???

    It's not a build time.
  • »12.11.22 - 20:58
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