Virtual GrandPrix 3 - Possible?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Zetec-s
    Posts: 156 from 2008/7/10
    From: Cheshire, UK
    I'm no programmer, so I'm just putting this out there, but would a port of Virtual Grand Prix 3 be possible?

    I've done a bit of digging around (in the last 30 minutes) and seen in an interview here from 2019;

    https://amigatronics.wordpress.com/2019/03/24/amigatronics-virtual-interview-with-paolo-cattani-the-alien-bonus/, the author Paolo Cattani say the following;

    "31- Is it likely that VGP3 will also come out for MorphOS and even, OS4 or AROS, or even more amazingly, an improved version for AGA machines?

    31: VGP3 was available for Windows and OS X only, because it required at LEAST the OpenGL V2.0 specifications that were not available for MorphOS or OS4.
    I don’t know how the situation is at the moment, given the fact that OpenGL is currently at V4.x maybe a 2.0 version is now available on MorphOS or OS4. In that case, a porting of the VGP3 engine could be possible…"

    Like I say, I'm no programmer so I don't know what TinyGL can do, but if the source code was available could this be ported?

    I've also noted that Paolo appears to have the following website now;

    http://www.paolocattani.com/personal/avc/

    Where he seems to hint that he might be releasing the source code later this year.
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    I think OpenGL 2.0 is still unavailable for MorphOS. TinyGL is more or less OpenGL 1.4.

    However lets wait for answer of a member of MOS Team. Maybe we don't know everything... :)

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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Zetec-s
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    I think you’re probably right but it would be good to have some idea of how feasible this might be.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    OS4 port would be possible because of Nova.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Zetec-s
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    Since coming back to the “Amiga” and in particular last year I haven’t really followed what OS4 was capable of but I was wondering if it could do something like this, from my research last night, as I believe it’s ahead of MorphOS for 3D.

    I’d always assumed that is why Spencer was an OS4 release only.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I’d always assumed that is why Spencer was an OS4 release only.

    Well, it's not like Entwickler-X released any of their games for MorphOS back when OS4 wasn't ahead of MorphOS in terms of 3D ;-)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    > Nova

    There seem to be some flaws in this diagram:

    MorphOS:
    - since MorphOS v3.0, TinyGL doesn't use Rave3D
    - Rave3D and Goa3D are still there for Voodoo and Radeon R100/R200
    - this means: Rave3D/Goa3D and TinyGL/Wazp3D should be disconnected
    - 2D RTG API missing

    AROS:
    - Wazp3D uses Mesa3D, not Gallium3D directly
    - 2D RTG API missing

    AmigaOS (left side):
    - "CyperGL" should be "CyberGL"
    - Doesn't CyberGL use Rave3D?

    AmigaOS (right side):
    - MiniGL uses Warp3D, not P96 directly
    - OpenGLES2 missing between Warp3D Nova and GL4ES
    - 2nd path for MiniGL via MiniGL4GL4ES to GL4ES missing
    - Didn't OS4 integrate all former P96 functions directly into their graphics.library at some point?
    - Why are Warp3D Nova and GL4ES outside the box?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Warp Nova and the OpenGL ES 2.0 layer are made by AEon, not included with AmigaOS 4.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11445 from 2003/5/22
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    >> Why are Warp3D Nova and GL4ES outside the box?

    > Warp Nova and the OpenGL ES 2.0 layer are made by AEon,
    > not included with AmigaOS 4.

    Wazp3D is not included with MorphOS or AROS, yet it is inside their boxes. CyberGraphX, cgx3drave and CyberGL are not included with AmigaOS, yet they are inside its box. Double standards?
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